CAN U REBUILD A BLOWN TURBO?

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Want to rebuild a blown turbo, for a school project. how is this done and how much does it ussauly go for?
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Will you stop yelling!

oh and yes you can rebuild a blown turbo, that's why you call it rebuilding.

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removed due to OPs idiocy.
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Really, typing in all caps makes you look stupid.

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UR STUPID

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Otto that signature is wonderous...


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Ignore everything I suggested and posted.

No point in helping people who act like that.

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Edit your posts to remove the caps lock and I will answer your question.

Yes I have rebuilt turbos, I can tell you how much it costs, how hard it is, where to get the parts, the tools you will need, and anything else you might want to know.

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its caps whats the big deal!

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nismonieves wrote:its caps whats the big deal!
Caps is the forum equivalent of YELLING.

It has to do with forum etiquette. Imagine walking into the DMV and screeming as loud as you can at the lady behind the desk that you need to renew your registration. You know what she would do? She would tell you to GTFO.

Lose the caps, get an answer.

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What turbo? Size? How bad is it? ( pics wouldn't hurt) How much shaft play?

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i dont have a blown turbo i was thinking of buying someones, and was gonna build it for a project/ competion

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Well being able to answer any of my above questions would help with cost evaluation and time. If you can get answers to any of those i can try and help you a little better. If you just want a ball park figure i would plan on anywhere between $350 and $650 depending on how bad it is if you were having a shop rebuild it.

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ok, would it be possible to build it myself or would u need special machinery to rebuild it?

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Depending on how badly its blown. In a perfect world just bolting up some parts woudn't be hard to do on your own. But if you are swapping wheels and changing shafts the whole unit would have to be balanced and thats not something you could do on your own. You would have to find someone who can balance the assembly.

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ok well i appreciate the help but after hearing what needs to be done i think ill just rebuild a starter or alternator.

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if you match marked the whole rotor and re-assembled with the same parts, i dont see why you would need a balance? Then again where I work we dynamically balance every rotor we rebuild even if we re-used most of the impellers. If your shaft and impellers are the same I would say match-marking them and re-assembling how they were would put you close to the previous balance. Ive never rebuilt a turbo before though, so maybe im wrong?

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I am also interested in finding out where to buy a reliable rebuild kit for my stock t25. I dont need any help rebuilding it, but I am not in caps so, if I could get a reliable source or two that would be great.

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Alright.

Enough poking around.

You cannot rebuild ball bearing turbos, so this only applies to journal bearing CHRA's.

Lets start out with the cost. Average rebuild cost to have a shop do it is around $400, at least that is what Ive found locally. Most diesel repair shops should be able to rebuild a turbo. This includes a full rebuild kit, bead blasting and balancing of the turbine wheels, new seals, bearings, locknut, and impeller housing bolts. If you dont know what you are doing, this is the way to go.

Now if you are feeling a little thriftier, you can do it yourself. That same diesel repair shop should be able to order you a good rebuild kit. Make sure to bring the center housing with you, they will need the part number to order the correct rebuild kit. Many shops even keep rebuild kits on hand. Everything comes in one neat little package, and on average it costs about $90. Now you can choose to just mark the wheels and reinstall them in the same orientation, but I dont suggest it. I suggest pulling the wheels out ahead of time, and when you go in to order your kit, leave the wheels with them. Every time Ive ever had them bead blast and balance a wheel set it runs about $30.

That means minus a little sweat and blood, your rebuild should only end up costing between $110 and $130.

Rebuilding is different brand to brand, but they are all similar.

The rebuild process is really straightforward. Remove the nut on the compressor, it is reverse threaded. Work the compressor wheel off the shaft. Use a press to remove the shaft from the center housing.

The rest is turbo specific, and a google search should turn up a diagram if you need one.

For Garrets there is usually three screws holding the thrust bearing assembly in, they are tight, dont strip them.

With that out of the way, there are snap rings on either side of each bear, they are very small, and tough to get out, be patient. With the snap rings out, the actual bearing should slide out easily. If you missed any seals during dis assembly, pull them now.

This should leave you with a bare housing. Clean it thoroughly, lubricate everything with oil, and assemble in the reverse order. You will have to search for the proper torque specs, I dont remember them off the top of my head.

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thanks for all the info bro, will start doing my research

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Kalypso123 wrote:1 second google search

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/Turbo-rebuild.html
Does anyone know where to buy a rebuild kit, if you dont know where a deisel shop is.

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I know i guy down here that does them. Im sure he can either sell you a rebuild kit or do it for you. I know the T25's are a bit of a PITA. But here's his # 205.516.3946. guys name is Reed.


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blacksrjdm wrote:
Does anyone know where to buy a rebuild kit, if you dont know where a deisel shop is.
Just open up the phone book, and look for diesel repair. Call them up and ask if they rebuild turbos, chances are they do, and if they dont, they will know who does.

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hahaha

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Jables wrote:I know i guy down here that does them. Im sure he can either sell you a rebuild kit or do it for you. I know the T25's are a bit of a PITA. But here's his # 205.516.3946. guys name is Reed.
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Just open up the phone book, and look for diesel repair. Call them up and ask if they rebuild turbos, chances are they do, and if they dont, they will know who does.
Look flatblackian...If I needed another a**hole, Id get another girlfriend. U havent helped me here at all. Thanks.

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well actually he's right, diesel shops probably have more experience and better pricing when it comes to rebuilding turbos.

if you buy a rebuild kit, order one made in the usa.
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FlatBlackIan wrote:
Caps is the forum equivalent of YELLING.

It has to do with forum etiquette. Imagine walking into the DMV and screeming as loud as you can at the lady behind the desk that you need to renew your registration. You know what she would do? She would tell you to GTFO.

Lose the caps, get an answer.
i cant help it but to keep coming back to this...

i have vivid imagination and your descriptions choked me as i was drinking tea

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blacksrjdm wrote:
Look flatblackian...If I needed another a**hole, Id get another girlfriend. U havent helped me here at all. Thanks.
Whoa there buddy, dont herniate your rectum. You asked where to get a rebuild kit. I told you exactly where to find one.

When I needed my first rebuild kit, I didn't know any diesel shops either. You know what I did? I grabbed my handy yellow pages, flipped to the Diesel repair section, and called the first on on the list. They said they didn't do turbocharger repair, and gave me the number of a place that did. Ive used that place ever since. I dont know what else to tell you. If thats seems to tough for you, im surprised your able to use the internet.

I can get the exact same kit off the internet that I order through them, but after shipping its almost $30 more with shipping than at the local shop.

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Called 3 deisel shops, feel worse about my situation because they buy new turbos or cartridges and only order from another deisel shop.

But I did get on the phone with a couple of local parts stores and turns out one of the local parts guys just rebuilt one for a friend and gave me a source.

If you are looking to rebuild your stock sr20det s13 t25 turbo here is the kit and its made by garrett and they have excellent tech support.

http://www.saabperformanceparts.com/item241.htm

It says Saab but I called them and spoke to the guy and he could answer every one of my questions with a detailed educated answer, and this is the rebuild kit for our turbos.


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