Can't install turbo because of it hitting master brake cylinder!!

[Doya]

So i just got my top mount manifold on this morning and I was installing the turbo to clock it, but I couldn't even get it on the manifold because it is hittingmy master brake cylinder. Has anyone else had this same problem.

[AZhitman]

What manifold?

Pics?

[Doya]

It's an ebay top mount manifold and I have an T04E Hybrid turbo. The back of the turbo is the part that is hitting. I don't have a camera so no pics. I was thinking about by two flanges and weld some kind of spacer in between them to give me the clearence that I need.

[Doya]

come on ppls , i need helps

[virus77]

get a log manifold put the flange wherever you want it and sell that POS manifold.

[neverlift]

yeah well seeing he already has the manifold from ebay probably says he cannot afford the log manifold kit, I know I could not.

I passed up a great turbo from a cat tractor due to fear of clearance. And not being able to spool until 4~5k... you could probably get away with buying a flange and cut/grind it to an angle that would let you clear. Or you could jack the motor up on the driver side. IDK how much room your talking though.

Will it clear once on the manifold or not at all, I had to remove the bmc to get my turbo on till I started getting nifty.

[WDRacing]

come on ppls , i need helps

I have a fix for this exact problem.

Go to the store/internet. Buy/order 3 hockey pucks.Drill motor mount stud holes in the pucks.Insert one under the motor mount on the drivers side.If there isn't enough clearance, you'll need 2 pucks on that side.That means you'll need 1 puck on the pass side and 2 on the drivers side. If you put 2 on the drivers side with the 1 on the pass side, the preload will be to much...duh.

You get the idea right? Every 4000 miles or so, inspect the transmission mount and make sure the preload hasn't cracked it.

Done and done...

Aint pretty but you asked for a fix and there it is.

WD

[GODCHSR]

hehe... I did something similar on my Wrangler to get a better driveshaft angle. lol

[Doya]

I need quite a bit of room to make it fit, so i ordered this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT The manifold I have kind of tilts down towards the bmc a little. So I'm hoping that the angle on this will raise it up and level it out a little. The company that I ordered from SUCKED They only sent me three of the bolts that hold the turbo to the manifold, no bolts for my wastegate, no gastkets, and when I contacted them, several times, they refused to send me what I was missing, saying that I ordered the last one and I need to buy those myself.

As for what WD said, I don't think that will give me enough clearance. I couldn't even get the turbo on the manifold unless I jack up the driver's side of the motor and took off one of my brake lines,which I think I f***ed up doing all of this. Getting the wastegate on the manifold was such a tight fit I have like a 1/8" of space, after I put my fittings on it. Does it matter which ones go to the side and top of my wastegate.

[Chris28]

Wait, the part your ordered is a t3 to t4 adapter, not just an a angle plate. Are your manifold flange and exhaust housing flange different sizes?

[Doya]

My turbo is a t3 and my manifold has the holes for a t3 and a t4. So I plan on taking the t4 part of the angle piece that I ordered, attaching that to my manifold, and will bolt my turbo to the other end, which will be the t3 flange. BTW, does anyone know where I can get the bolts that are used for attaching the turbo to the manifold, I don't know what they are called

[GODCHSR]

My turbo is a t3 and my manifold has the holes for a t3 and a t4. So I plan on taking the t4 part of the angle piece that I ordered, attaching that to my manifold, and will bolt my turbo to the other end, which will be the t3 flange. BTW, does anyone know where I can get the bolts that are used for attaching the turbo to the manifold, I don't know what they are called

Man I was worried there for a second too...

[Doya]

Man I was worried there for a second too...

I'm not that stupid at least I think I'm not

[WDRacing]

I'm not that stupid at least I think I'm not

Best bet is to lie to us and say the car was stolen otherwise...

[Chris28]

Haha after posting that I saw a mani that had both bolt patterns and I thought figured that's what you were running. Are you running the cast iron manifold?

Also, is your exhaust housing the tangential type or the other type...maybe it's called on center, I'm not sure. If you are running the not-so-common type then I can see why fitment is an issue, otherwise the manifold must really suck haha.

[AZhitman]

I foresee hood clearance issues coming.

Also, how are you shielding the BMC from heat?

[GODCHSR]

I foresee hood clearance issues coming.

Also, how are you shielding the BMC from heat?

That is definitely a possibility. I simple heat shield should protect the BMC but won't help with under hood temps.

I'd go with a blanket since it's a top mount turbo. IMO

[Doya]

Ok, so I just got that angle piece that I ordered and the mother f***er still won't fit I'm so f***in pissed right now! The only way the turbo would fit was if I jacked up the driver's side of the motor and took off my brake line on that side. I don't know what the hell I'm going to do. I'm so close to taking off the manifold and smashing the mother f***er into the ground I mean, I still need for it to be raised like another 1"- 2" before it will fit. Stupid piece of s*** manifold

And yes, I probably will have hood clearance issues, but at this point, I wish that was my only problem.

[AZhitman]

ebay manifolds = garbage.

Time to take it to a welder and have it chopped down and re-welded.

[WDRacing]

ebay manifolds = garbage.

Time to take it to a welder and have it chopped down and re-welded.

The bottom mount SSAC manifold is decent. It's been proven now to not crack over many miles and several years. The top mount sucks in general. The waste gate flange is poorly designed, not large enough and the collector is awful. Now I know we're talking about something that's under 200 bucks...so I'll just stop.

As for what WD said, I don't think that will give me enough clearance.

AND there's the rub. First things first...WD is always right

#2, this has been done already. Which is why I suggested it to begin with. It's cheap and easy. When you elevate one side of the motor, it lifts the motor as well as changing it's angle away from the MBC. Just unbolt the motor, slide a puck in the drivers side...temporarily. Then lower the motor so that the drivers side won't seat all the way. Then try to mount the turbo. See where things sit and go from there.

WD

[Doya]

I didn't say that you weren't right, I was just saying that a hockey puck was not going to give me the clearance that I needed. I'm sure It has worked for other people, but my case is a little bit different. If you saw the manifold, you would see how much clearance I really need. My dad knows a guy back our street who is really good with this kind of stuff, he custom fabricates manifolds and other s*** like that for a living, so he is going to look at it. He's going to make me a turbo elbow too.

[WDRacing]

The mod I'm talking about was done to a S14 using the same manifold with a T3/T4 turbo.

Just saying it's easy enough to try. Unbolt the motor, insert ANY available spacer, lay the motor back in, then see if it fits. Take me like 5 minutes maybe...

[Doya]

The mod I'm talking about was done to a S14 using the same manifold with a T3/T4 turbo.

Just saying it's easy enough to try. Unbolt the motor, insert ANY available spacer, lay the motor back in, then see if it fits. Take me like 5 minutes maybe...

I know, but I had to jack up the driver's side of the motor like almost 3" before it would fit, and that was with the brake line off. Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate everyones help. If it wasn't for you guys, I wouldn't have been able to do alot of stuff, so thanks

[AZhitman]

Wow.

Link to the auction so we can rip on this company's crappy product please?

Pisses me off...

[kouki_hmongster]

First thing, you just wasted your money on egay crappp! this is why people should read the stickies first before they purchase their stuff. second, fuuuCKK all those company who are making stuff for cheap that doesnt even work or fit. third, you're still screwed for even thinkin about buyin ebay manifold, unless if it's the bottommount which is proven to work but still s***ttty. fourth, let this be a lesson and go buy a log manifold from JGS which is proven to work for a decent price.

i wouldnt even try to raise the motor at this point. i understand we're all on a budget, but there are some stuff you cant halfass. either payup or dont even turbo.

sorry for being a d!ck, just that i halfassed before and blew a motor and something tells me that you're probably going to halfass somewhere.

[Doya]

Wow.

Link to the auction so we can rip on this company's crappy product please?

Pisses me off...

The company is XO2 Racing, and right now I am filing a report against them through ebay for not giving all the bolts and gaskets, which in the item description, it said that it was included. I've tried contacting them several times and nobody replied back until I said that I was going to report them. Then I was told that I bought the last manifold and that I needed to buy that stuff myself

First thing, you just wasted your money on egay crappp! this is why people should read the stickies first before they purchase their stuff. second, fuuuCKK all those company who are making stuff for cheap that doesnt even work or fit. third, you're still screwed for even thinkin about buyin ebay manifold, unless if it's the bottommount which is proven to work but still s***ttty. fourth, let this be a lesson and go buy a log manifold from JGS which is proven to work for a decent price.

i wouldnt even try to raise the motor at this point. i understand we're all on a budget, but there are some stuff you cant halfass. either payup or dont even turbo.

sorry for being a d!ck, just that i halfassed before and blew a motor and something tells me that you're probably going to halfass somewhere.

I don't have anything bad to say eBay. You can't blame eBay because of some bad sellers. This is the first time that I have had any problems with stuff off of eBay. Unlike you, I haven't HALFASSED anything, nor do I plan to.

[WDRacing]

He's referring to eBay's sale of Chinese knock-off-products. They are cheaply made and quite often either don't work or don't fit. There is a long documented history of eBay being the place to buy stuff that's crap. Because anyone can open a store and anyone can drop ship Chinese parts. Chances are the company X02 is just a PO Box and the owners just manage the entire bussiness through a PC and don't actually have any inventory to speak of.

The top mount manifolds are all the same and they all have fitment issues. You would have known this if you read the ebay sticky or asked in here what our opinions were.

I hope it all works out, but your best bet is to get a new manifold.

WD

[Doya]

Ok, so I finally got a piece made to give me enough clearance over the MBC. I already installed the oil feed line last night and I'm going to hook up the drain hose and FMU today. I just have a quick question. I have two fittings on my wastegate, one on the side, and the other on top. Which one of them do I run to my turbo. I know one of them has to go to a boost controller, but I'm not using one right now.

[WDRacing]

The bung on the side of the wastegate is where the vacuum line goes. This will allow the wastegate to open at whatever spring pressure you have installed. If you have a manual B/C then install it between the vac source and the side bung.

WD

[Doya]

I'm not sure how I am suppose to put my bung on my oil pan for my drain line. I planned on taking off the oil pan and then put the bung on but there was no way for me to get the oil pan off. Some of the bolts were not accessible. Is there another way to do this?