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formula94lt1
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A dyno is 60-75 bucks for a few pulls. Seems like a good thing to do once you get it sorted, no? Good info to have, and especially good info for other board members wanting to go a similar route, since someone finally is posting about a REAL cammed vh45. Posting gains in trap speed is like being shown the meaning of life, but in a damn riddle. Especially for those who do not drag race. Good luck though, hope you get a dyno anyways


gs14racer
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lets all donate 5 dollars lol

T45
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I agree.

http://www.godspeeddynodonations.com

BTW it's Sunday.
Modified by T45 at 1:35 PM 3/8/2009

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SuperHatch
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I don't need money for a dyno, I can dyno the car for free at the local shop if I want. I just never cared to... If I get bored enough to strap the car onto the trailer, tow it there, unstrap it, do a few pulls, and do the whole thing in reverse to get it home, you'll get a dyno sheet. That is, a dyno sheet that means nothing to you, since my car has a 5000RPM stall converter that makes the dyno graph impossible to read.

FWIW, my car stock made 230WHP and 400+ lb-ft stock on that dyno, because of the converter. The dyno graphs won't mean a thing.

On the other hand, at my vehicles weight and current speed, 1MPH trap increase is about 10HP.

The cams are in, the timing chains are back on. I still need to throw on the covers and intake. I didn't get as much done this weekend as I thought I would, life comes first.

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SuperHatch wrote: That is, a dyno sheet that means nothing to you, since my car has a 5000RPM stall converter that makes the dyno graph impossible to read.
Thats riiigggghhhtttt. Forgot about that, will be waiting some low 11 sec time slips then. Good luck..

infamous_t
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lol, I think what some are trying to say is that same dyno = tangible results when setup is changed... but I gotta say the strip doesn't lie, so the answer will come out either way.

I like the outcome regardless :D

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Protune Racing
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SuperHatch wrote:I don't need money for a dyno, I can dyno the car for free at the local shop if I want. I just never cared to... If I get bored enough to strap the car onto the trailer, tow it there, unstrap it, do a few pulls, and do the whole thing in reverse to get it home, you'll get a dyno sheet. That is, a dyno sheet that means nothing to you, since my car has a 5000RPM stall converter that makes the dyno graph impossible to read.

FWIW, my car stock made 230WHP and 400+ lb-ft stock on that dyno, because of the converter. The dyno graphs won't mean a thing.

On the other hand, at my vehicles weight and current speed, 1MPH trap increase is about 10HP.

The cams are in, the timing chains are back on. I still need to throw on the covers and intake. I didn't get as much done this weekend as I thought I would, life comes first.
i also agree that the strip is a good indicator of a change in setup. But my question is, if you dont care to use a dyno when its available to you free of charge how do you intend to properly dial in your new cams and setup nistune? im guessing street tune but why bother thats what dyno's are built for anyways

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SuperHatch
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nismov wrote:
i also agree that the strip is a good indicator of a change in setup. But my question is, if you dont care to use a dyno when its available to you free of charge how do you intend to properly dial in your new cams and setup nistune? im guessing street tune but why bother thats what dyno's are built for anyways

James K
The car will be tuned on the strip. It doesn't take a dyno to maximize a setup. Look at guys like John Shephard, his car has never seen a dyno. Dynos struggle to accurately reproduce the conditions of the real world. I'm not saying they're useless. I could use the dyno to do an initial tune, and then tweak on the track. But the fact of the matter is, no matter what I do the final tune will happen at the strip. If I can do it all there, why bother with the Dyno?

I'm signed up for a track rental at Atco on Friday the 20th. As long as the weather holds out I'll have a full day to tune the car. I'll probably get 100 runs in...

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SuperHatch wrote:
The car will be tuned on the strip. It doesn't take a dyno to maximize a setup. Look at guys like John Shephard, his car has never seen a dyno. Dynos struggle to accurately reproduce the conditions of the real world. I'm not saying they're useless. I could use the dyno to do an initial tune, and then tweak on the track. But the fact of the matter is, no matter what I do the final tune will happen at the strip. If I can do it all there, why bother with the Dyno?

I'm signed up for a track rental at Atco on Friday the 20th. As long as the weather holds out I'll have a full day to tune the car. I'll probably get 100 runs in...


IMO i would not be taking a car to the strip before doing an inital tune on the dyno. How can you expect to tune a car when ur going flat out, 100% Tp and Max load.. you wont even hit half the cells , unless you intend to do heaps of slow runs down the strip.. which might give you a 40 seconds 1/4 hehe. Oh yeah great stuff so far by the way, love your build..

James


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