CA18DET-AE86 help ?'s

[TD or Not TD]

I plan on purchasing a CA18DET this weekend, engine harness ecu transmission ect. is there anything that i should make sure it has with it for the swap? AFM/MAF i have a friend who has a bunch of KA24 parts and i think i read on here that you can use a KA24 MAF sensor ect.

Also i read on someones post that they purchased mounts from some anthony kallem or something? if anyone can shine some light on this top it would be great.

How is the LHD clearance?

it most likely needs a custom driveshaft?

the wiring isnt a problem, i have a guy that will make a harness and use an SR20 ecu to run it. mainly for tuning reasons.

any advice would be great!

[burntricer]

not sure about what your asking, whats the motor going into, a s13? or 86?

[Masterdebater]

do u need just the custom mounting brackets and then just use the stock ca motor mounts?

[driftin8ez]

Only the KA24E, other wise known as the single cam KA24, MAF will work.

[TD or Not TD]

do u need just the custom mounting brackets and then just use the stock ca motor mounts?

this is what im trying to find out. what i need for mounts. if there are certain ones on the motor ill look to see if they are there and i would like to know if they are not on the motor if they are available.

the title states AE86, its going into a corolla.

[Myetball]

http://forums.toymods.org.au/i...nt=60

This guy used RB20 mounts on the AE86 crossmember. Now you just gotta find some RB20 mounts.

[TD or Not TD]

I read that you could use those mounts but i think finding them would be the issue. if it comes down to it ill have to make my own but just seeing for a quicker way out if possible.

[Masterdebater]

well i knew u were saying ur putting it into a corolla loli have an extra ca engine that came out of a friends corolla and it has custom brackets.just have custom brackets made and use the ca mounts and u should be fine

[Chinamandrift]

hi there ...im doing that swap right now .......i ordered mounts from anthony kellam ........he told me it was ready to ship .....he laged about sending it out after i paid him..........and i had to keep emailing him every other day for about a month to get it out ........then after i recieved everything ........the engine mounts were drill in the incorrect place using only two bolts to hold up each side ...instead of the stock 3 bolts .......transmission mounts was fine ......i ordered a poly urethane transmission mount ..........and he sent me a stock transmission mount ........the turbo hit the exhaust side mount ...i had to get brackets remade similiar to those that anthony sent me .....using the stock 3 bolts on the mount .....and reposition the plates of metal so its doesnt hit the turbo.....you are better off making your own .........

oh man the clearance on the ae86 steering column and the dump pipe is slim .........im workin on a custom dump pipe to dodge it ......my set up right now ....the stock dump pipe barely clears the column by 2mm ......

on ziptied theres guy on there who .....made an extender to move the turbo out ward to dodge the steering column ........

custom drive shaft is a must

the ae86 rear end wont last .....the ca18det will blow it up.......cuz those rear ends limits like 180-200hp

[TD or Not TD]

Thanks for the helpfull info. are you the one that e-mailed me about the mounts? if not then there are 2 people with the same problem. if you use a top mount turbo manifold would the clearance be alot better?

i read that the clearance is alot better with the CA than the SR engine.

[dash]

clears LHD. Here's one, not stock exhaust manifold tho.http://www.aeu86.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3994

CA18 ecu, either chipped or emanage blue makes 300+.

try here for Kellam [email protected] to just use the 4A rubber mounts and make up brackets... if u have (or access to) fab skills.

custom driveshaft, yes. Go staight to a 7.5 rear end if u have any plans for actually planting some power. Launching will break even a gts 6.7, forget about a 6.38 sr diff.

[TD or Not TD]

i might drag the car a few times but it will be more of a street car and drift car, nothing major just practices and maybe a few local events for starters.

so with the small 13-14'' tires im not going to be too worried about breaking the rear right away ill probably have to pick up a few spares.

and the link you posted didnt show up. do you have to be a member?

[ca18detgabby]

[QUOTE=TD or Not TD]use an SR20 ecu to run it. mainly for tuning reasons.[QUOTE]

how on earth is that going to work. The SR is distributed and the CA isn't(less Im confused)

[TD or Not TD]

Well there is a guy up in montreal that tunes nissans and he said he will use the SR20 ecu and make an engine harness for me and have it use the SR20 ecu so i dont know ill have to talk to him more about it.

[TD or Not TD]

also the CA and SR's are coil over cylinder. he said whatever i put in my corolla make sure it has a DLI or he can make the DLI setup work on whatever motor but it would be easier to have it to start with.

[dash]

seems like extra effort for the sake of an sr ecu... or tuning?A ca18 is a 'simpler' ecu, but isn't it easier to tune also ?

You know where to find a "few GTS spare rear ends" ? $$$$ell 'em!stock gts 4.3 ratio + 13/14"/low tires is garbage behind a ca18 powered rolla. You'd spend your time revving way beyond your tq band imo. Less load=slower spool, shorter gears=lotsa shifting, etc

[TD or Not TD]

there is always swaping out different ring and pinion....

right now the car has a non GTS rear in it.

and this guy can tune the car easier i guess with an SR ECU

[dash]

put a L$D(if available) in a pos 6.3 or even welded up is a waste. Go taller on the ratio and tire ? 6.3 will then last 1 instead of 3 seconds

good ca18/ae86 build herehttp://www.hachiroku.net/forum...=4956

[gtrperformance]

You need an old Supra/Celica rear end. 1980. Good luck finding one. I'm doing this swap too but I'm having employment complications. I'm in the Army and not unemployed. I don't know if you watch CNN but.....we've been a little busy!

[TD or Not TD]

Dont worry, i know how busy you guys are, my father informs me every day.

plus i read that the celica rear is a bolt in swap if you get T3 control arms? is it because they are adjustable and the celica/supra rear sits a little off and can be corrected with the T3 arms? or do they make specific ones for that?

[gtrperformance]

I was under the impression that it was a bolt-in affair. You could check the usual AE86 forums but they're not as user friendly as NICO and the tech support SUCKS! I was trying to figure out how to do the digital gauge cluster swap and they refused to help me. Oh well. NICO should take the forum platform and start one for Toyota's. Hint Hint.

[Chinamandrift]

nah its not bolt on ....u have to cut the ae86 brackets off ....and weld it on the celica rear .........then after that its bolt on !! lol

BTW my motor is back in the ae86 for test fitting .......and i got my parts back from the polishing shop ......lemme know watcha think! i still gotta slight problem with my aftermarket screamer dump pipe .....the stock one fits perfectly and dodges the steering column.....basically everything clears in stock form ....


Modified by Chinamandrift at 8:31 PM 6/15/2007

[TD or Not TD]

Very Very Shinney!!!! i bet alot of stupid A$$es would think thats a stock motor in that car with the custom coil pack cover! but good job on taking the time to polish everything. too much work for me.

right now i have the SR5 rear i might weld that up or get a GTS rear not sure yet. i dont plan on having more than 200whp.

[Chinamandrift]

well the motor is stock right now .....it has a GT2530 on it ......but its pretty much stock ....i dont have the time to work on it much ........so i do it little by little .......i was getting ready to do some head work ......i ran into a 4 port head ....so im waiting on that then ill start ordering parts ....

[TD or Not TD]

What are you planning to do for a wiring harness?

[dash]

now there's some CA bling. "Toyota 1800 T" - lol

probably not worth a ca18 swap if only targeting 200.You can get close to that from a 4agE with stock electronics - either with a FMU + BTM or gze stuff. MSqrt will get you way more.Question is whether a custom mani more difficult than a 'ca18 swap'.Later on there's the clutch and gbox/bellhousing upgrade depending on how you treat it and tq made.

Rather than waste time chasing a 79/80 supra rear, if you're gonna transfer SR5 rear end brackets, grab a more common volvo or 2wd toyota truck 7.5 diff. Roughly same width as AE. $330 new lsd available.

A Nico toyota board wouldn't improve the situation imo. Still won't filter out the goons that have taken over the rolla sceen... they'll just migrate over. Aussie forums have tons of good turbo rolla info

[TD or Not TD]

Well the gearboxes are stronger, already turbo 173hp stock, better ecu upgrades... 4age's dont hold alot of power. the 4agze's do. you can get alot of power out of a 4age if you have it well tuned(im talking about in stock form, pistons rods ect).

i have everything to bolt the CA into the car all i have to get is a driveshaft, wiring the harness, run fuel lines ect. alot of little crap.

oh also , i only paid $550 for the swap and it already has an S14 turbo on it. and i can get more for that much(the engine supplier is close enough to drive to)

[TD or Not TD]

There isnt alot of progress on the swap right now. here is just a few pics so far.

all $550.00 of its glory

I also stripped out parts i feel wernt needed in the engine bay....not alot just some things here and there.

[ca18det240hatch]

is it just the picture, or did somebody rape that motor harness and dump its body in the woods?

[Chinamandrift]

im thinking stand alone .....it will be my first time ....im gonna need alot of help there because i dont know what im doing with stand alones.....if not i have a full s13 harness, ca18det engine harness, and ca18det ecu in my garage