CA18=RB26?

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Apparently. I went to check the price of a new crank. The used one is destined for about $500 in work and my wife innocently asked "how much is a new one"? Good damned question I thought, why drop coin on freshening up an old crank if I can get a new one. Well, Nissan wants $900 for a new crank! This seemed weird when a buddy of mine back in the day bought an R33 RB26 crank for about $800 so I asked. The RB26 crank is the same price now, $900.I wanted to be mad but when the Nissan parts guy went before I did I had to laugh. Even he thought that was crazy. Oh well, where do I send the check Toda? Can anybody hit their Nissan dealer stateside and price a new CA18DE crank on that end? Ironically Nissan parts tend to be cheaper outside the country. I would feel like a guy driving to Canada to buy my medication but **** it, this is money!


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themadscientist wrote:Apparently. I went to check the price of a new crank. The used one is destined for about $500 in work and my wife innocently asked "how much is a new one"? Good damned question I thought, why drop coin on freshening up an old crank if I can get a new one. Well, Nissan wants $900 for a new crank! This seemed weird when a buddy of mine back in the day bought an R33 RB26 crank for about $800 so I asked. The RB26 crank is the same price now, $900.I wanted to be mad but when the Nissan parts guy went before I did I had to laugh. Even he thought that was crazy. Oh well, where do I send the check Toda? Can anybody hit their Nissan dealer stateside and price a new CA18DE crank on that end? Ironically Nissan parts tend to be cheaper outside the country. I would feel like a guy driving to Canada to buy my medication but **** it, this is money!
Dude, why don't you just get a machined crank for a fraction of the cost of a new one. If it makes you feel better, my daily CA and my 4G63 both use machined cranks with over-sized bearings and I rev the oil out of them with no ill-effects. If you're interested, I can get you one at my price for the low-low or I can at least find out what a new crank would cost at my price.

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I would be interested in the new crank price. I have priced items in the past that were stunningly lower than domestic price which makes no sense but is consistent.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...l1247

not much cheaper.

see if TOMEI have any full counter ca18 cranks on hand maybe?


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No such thing as a full counter CA18 crank. The Tomei stroker crank is just a modified CA20 crank. I have this one but it won't spin in a CA18 block, counterweights hit the stud girdle.

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I emailed you.

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oh no, no more nudes. For the love of god my eyes! It's never going to happen man.

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Whatever. If you're drugged and asleep, you'll have no choice. Lucky for you the US Dollar won't let me take a trip to oki anytime soon.

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I just realized you thread-jacked your own thread. Your abilities never cease to amaze!

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welli have a buddy who works at nissan...ill see what he can do...

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float_6969 wrote:I just realized you thread-jacked your own thread. Your abilities never cease to amaze!
I have many levels to the game. I just turned harte's thread into a serious discussion of toilets.

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themadscientist wrote:No such thing as a full counter CA18 crank. The Tomei stroker crank is just a modified CA20 crank. I have this one but it won't spin in a CA18 block, counterweights hit the stud girdle.
Is the top one a Tomei CA20 crank?

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No, a Tomei crank is just a Nissan CA20 crank.

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Nope, the Tomei CA20 crank is just a forged copy of the CA20E crank with the correct nose on it. Supposedly the CA20E crank is unforged (I have a hard time believing this) but is for sure only a single counterweight setup like the CA18.

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saw the title of this theard and expected war. then realized TMS was the poster and that it probably was just going to get silly and off path instead.

anywho..... any reason why you arent having it machined?

just for inquiring minds as eventually other will have to walk down this path and an explanation as to why would be goood.

(maybe we can even teach people to use the search button )

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The crank I have needs serious work and it is crazy expensive here. If I can get a new crank fresh from Nissan it would be better but the price is very expensive.

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Do you want me to see what machining will cost over here? He actually owes me some machine work. If anything I am sure I can find you a good crank on this end.

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Back in 'da day' when I was doing my rebuild and looking into crank options I noticed the local autoparts store sold remanned cranks w/ bearings for about $210. Interestingly enough though I ended up just getting the crank done at a machine shop and it only cost me $50 plus $25 for the bearings.

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if its cracked Id source a new one, if a rod/main is spun Id get it undersized, and run an oversize bearing in the respective bore.

and that full counter crank look so sexy compared to our semi counters.

if a counterweight hitting the girdle is the only thing keeping that crank from spinning in a ca18 block, I would seriously consider having a custom girdle made up, so that crank and a CA block can start making love already!
Modified by ks13 at 10:25 AM 10/12/2008

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far you guys got it bad i just bought a complete engine DET with UK head for NZ$200 that is new zealand currency so like $150US.

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ks13 wrote:if its cracked Id source a new one, if a rod/main is spun Id get it undersized, and run an oversize bearing in the respective bore.

and that full counter crank look so sexy compared to our semi counters.

if a counterweight hitting the girdle is the only thing keeping that crank from spinning in a ca18 block, I would seriously consider having a custom girdle made up, so that crank and a CA block can start making love already!

Modified by ks13 at 10:25 AM 10/12/2008
That crank hits everything. even with the tall girdle it smacks the pan rail.

Then it crashes into the base of the cylinders

It will only spin in its original block.

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Seeing that the thread is already kinda off topic; you gonna finish that frankenmotor or tell us what the block/crank is from TMS, sir?

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the frank motor will be built in the future, for now I just want my car back together. The mystery motor is not available in America.

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I just say 20e block with the 18det head + machine work and modifed/custom girdle! 75% of the time, it wins all the time. I dumped my ca20e car for an ca18det so maybe I shouldn't say much. I will plan for that in the far future, when my S12's suspension is fully adjustable and completed.

Thread jack FTW!

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themadscientist wrote:The mystery motor is not available in America.
Yeah it is, they put it in this classic:



It was rumored that the A team van had a similar motor in it, but Mr. T couldn't be reached for comment.

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I pity the fool.

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whats the chance of using the ca18det rods, pistons and head on the ca20e block with the 20e crank?? Or is this a thing of fantasy

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I'm pre letting you all know this thread has seriously made me lol. Perfect thing for the Monday blues.


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Up here in Canada its $1190.00

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