CA a good motor??

[honda_killer240]

im selling my every day driver (99 eclipse) and need to get a motor into my 89 coup fast and as of right now all i can aford is a ca18 is this a good and respectable motor all i hear about here is ka, sr, and rb i dont know much about the ca and it only being a 1.8 is it gonna be slower then my 2.0 in my eclipse or is it worth it for now.

[AJ1356]

well i dunno much about the CA, but here is what i know. this all from my time in japan and talking to actual CA18det owners. it is cast iron block, so you can push a bit higher boost level than the alumunium block sr. the turbo is ok but has this thing call lash( i have no idea what it is) however JUN makes a lashkiller kit you can instal. however everyone said it has lots of potential, someone with a good knowhow can make the ca very formidable.

[AkademikONE]

CA's are good engines. The only thing I don't like about them is the lack of bottom end torque. It's a hig rev motor.

[drifter_for_life06]

Very good motor

The bottom end torque is a sacrifice for higher revs but can easily be made up if built right

They are relatively cheap, only down side is parts are a little more scarce than parts for KA/SR

take a trip to the CA forum and hit those guys up! They're great guys

[tm_kickz]

I love ca's. My last 240sx had a ca. I loved it somuch. Very strong motors.

Iron block and head.

Put a cheap sr turbo (t25) and your def hanging with stock 240's.

Very simple to work with. You can also use alot of parts from other cars, but as far as after market you will have to scrouge with ebay finds. There are a few of those...

[angelthepig]

definitely swap the stock turbo from ca, its worth crap. i heard ca parts aren't that hard to find. depends where you look. Because not many people are interested in them, ca engines, shops that specialize in 240's like phase2 etc etc dont carry much around as that compared to sr motors.

[Mixmastamunkh]

Put a cheap sr turbo (t25) and your def hanging with stock 240's.

what do you mean def hanging with stock 240's? witha t25 in a CA that'll blow stock 240's away. maybe im confused, what did you mean?

[240DRFT]

I love ca's. My last 240sx had a ca. I loved it somuch. Very strong motors.

Iron block and head.

Put a cheap sr turbo (t25) and your def hanging with stock 240's.

Very simple to work with. You can also use alot of parts from other cars, but as far as after market you will have to scrouge with ebay finds. There are a few of those...

the ca's head is aluminum...

the ca is a great engine, i would get one but i have no money . i would suggest to get one, and it is easy to find parts since there was the ca18et offered in the u.s. and they share many parts and i think there was another car that shared some parts, i dont remember

[frapjap]

Be careful, even though the Pulsar had a Ca18det at some point in time, the model is nearly 18 years old, theyre going to discontinue production soon. Personally, I'd love a CA and a friend had one he built to 300hp, it was awesome. I'd get it, but make sure its not a dud and was taken care of as they are older than the SR.

[c-rad]

Be careful, even though the Pulsar had a Ca18det at some point in time, the model is nearly 18 years old, theyre going to discontinue production soon. Personally, I'd love a CA and a friend had one he built to 300hp, it was awesome. I'd get it, but make sure its not a dud and was taken care of as they are older than the SR.

Pulsar came with the CA18DE. 99% of the parts are interchangeable. Finding OEM parts is sooooo easy. And VERY cheap. Injectors are top feed, low impedance so they are cheap as well. Any T2 flanged turbo will bolt on from the SR T25 to the GT2871R. The only parts that are not easy to find are aftermarket head gaskets and head components (springs, retainers, etc...). But like the others stated, it's a stout motor with an iron block with a forged crank and shot-peened rods, main cap girdle, oil squirters on the pistons. One of the best head designs Nissan ever made. No rocker arms to piss off (bucket style cams rock!) And a nice, simple, 8-bit single eprom ECU. No need to spend a ridiculous amount on a rom tune when you can do it yourself with about $200 in hardware.

[honda_killer240]

sweet thanks the ca boards where not verey helpful i learned a little bit but u guys have been good help to anything els i should know

[ArticDragon192]

Anyone have a dyno of a stock CA?

[azncorruptedo17]

This is provided to those who are unfamiliar with the wonderful little workhorse motor.

The basic facts:

Displacement - 1809ccBore - 83mmStroke - 83.6mmCompression - 9.5:1(DE) 8.5:1(DET)Horsepower - 135 HP @6400RPM(DE) 175 HP @6400RPM(DET)Torque - 115 ft/lbs @5200(DE) 166 ft/lbs @4000(DET)Tune up stats;Timing marks -The six marks on the crank pulley read clockwise are -5, 0, 5, 10, 15 and 20 degrees respectively.Timing - 15*BTDC(DE(T))Idle speed - This is set via a valve solenoid on the intake manifold. In the center of the plenum aiming to the front is a valve with a gold cylinder with a plug on it. Unplug it and adjust the idle speed with the 10mm bolt on the back of the valve then plug it back in.Idle speed - 800RPM(DE) 750RPM(DET)Spark Plug - NGK PFR6A-11 or equivalent Gap - 1.1 mmFuel Injector - Top feed, 370ccOil filter - Fram 3682, 3614 or equivalent (4qts with these)Stock Cam Specs- CA18DET--------------------Type - LashCam Duration(IN) - 240°Cam Duration(EX) - 248°Cam lift IN(mm) - 7.80Cam lift EX(mm) - 8.50Lobe center angle (IN) - 120°Lobe center angle (EX) - 120°

-themadscientist-

From the CA forums Stickies. Just a few bolt on mods will help propel this little guy to beat stock SRs with a lesser cost than doing a stock SR swap

[HashiriyaS14]

CA's scare me.

2BN_S13 is putting one in his Sileighty....I'm very afraid. I really don't wanna drive it....I'm afraid it's going to make me wanna sell my S14 in favor of building a CA-powered S13 coupe.

[Dattebayo]

Its going together really cheap for me for some reason, too.

Definatly a good bang for the buck in my opinion if you like to work on motorsf yourself. My only problem has been sourcing the T28 turbo that I want for my machine as the stock turbo is horrible.

I think it is a wonderful motor for those who want performance without going crazy on power. I wish I knew how the motor sounds in the car though...

[Riceless]

im selling my every day driver (99 eclipse)

Congradulations!!!

I was skeptical at first, but became a convert when I visited the CA forums. Can't give any feedback though, since my motorset is en route.

[honda_killer240]

i have acutal considerd keepping the eclipse and putting a fw sr from a pulser or converting it to rw (witch is a *****) and putting a ka in it but im going to put my money into my 240 but the guy that does my motor work said that both could be done just a matter of how much $$$ i wanted to shell out

[Ni2s4s0aSnX]

I don't think it is as good of a motor as any of the other Nissan motors. It's a very small displacement motor with not alot of potential for more horsepower. Alot of people will probably disagree with me, but I'm not a big fan of the CA engines. And just a word of advice. You probably wont be killing many Hondas if you buy a CA motor, since they'll have the same size motor as you do.

[Dattebayo]

Ni2s4s0aSnX does not have a clue what he is talking about.

One of our members is pushing close to 400 whp on his CA18DET with a very short list of modifications. If you dont believe me, click right here for the thread.

[GrilledCheese33]

talk to rico05, he has a ca.

[honda_killer240]

does rico have an email

[GrilledCheese33]

does rico have an email

http://engl-labs.tamu.edu/clas...n.htm

His car site

and his e-mail:http://[email protected]

there ya go!

[GrilledCheese33]

not the http:// part of the e-mail address, it screwed up, but I don't know him, i just had seen his site. I'm sure he can definately help you though

[ArticDragon192]

175 ft-lbs of torque at 4k rpms. That's pretty good seeing how the KA has about 160 at like 4.6k. I think that's torquey enough.

[Ni2s4s0aSnX]

All I"m saying is that there are better ways to spend money on an engine than on a CA. Anyone can put a turbo on a 1.8 liter motor and call it a good motor, but who cares. All I said was that I just don't like the CA motors personaly, they are a waste of money in my mind.

[Ni2s4s0aSnX]

And also (2BN_S13) I didnt see any dyno sheet. Also, you said it was a short list of mods, the guy pretty much says he rebuilt the whole motor. Ported heads, camshafts, pistons, etc.

My friend just got his new engine mapped .They got 389whp (aprox 430-440 engine hp) at 1.6bar boost with a GT2871R .86ar turbo .This was better than we had expcted .The car is also very drivable . Comes on strong at 4000rpm and explodes at 5000rpm . He still had 360whp at 8200rpmEngine specs .Ported cylinder head (flowtested on Superflow flowbench)Tomei 260" IN EX camsTomei valve springsTomei adj cam gearsPorted throttle bodyGT2871R ported SSSAutochrome exhaust manifold3" exhaust from turbineNismo 600cc injectorsMicrotech running MAP sensor(No MAFS)Wideband lambda JE 1mm overbore pistons with Totalseal piston ringsPauter rodsHKS intercooler

As it was running a bit high oil temp they did not try for more . But he can probably make a little more hp with new radiator and oil cooler fitted .



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2932 posts [100%]Miami Fl11-14-2002 « Re: 389whp ca18det with GT2871R (TURBOKONGEN) 5:13 PM 6/7/2005

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Quote, originally posted by TURBOKONGEN » My friend just got his new engine mapped .They got 389whp (aprox 430-440 engine hp) at 1.6bar boost with a GT2871R .86ar turbo .This was better than we had expcted .The car is also very drivable . Comes on strong at 4000rpm and explodes at 5000rpm . He still had 360whp at 8200rpmEngine specs .Ported cylinder head (flowtested on Superflow flowbench)Tomei 260" IN EX camsTomei valve springsTomei adj cam gearsPorted throttle bodyGT2871R ported SSSAutochrome exhaust manifold3" exhaust from turbineNismo 600cc injectorsMicrotech running MAP sensor(MAF)Wideband lambda JE 1mm overbore pistons with Totalseal piston ringsPauter rodsHKS intercooler

As it was running a bit high oil temp they did not try for more . But he can probably make a little more hp with new radiator and oil cooler fitted .

[rico05]

This week marks my 1 year anniversary of bring CA powered.

Seriously a VERY capable motor. Cheap to upgrade, just takes some care and some creativity. After I get my head around ROM tuning, my next little project may be a stroker setup, but we shall see

[ArticDragon192]

These changed my mind about the CA

http://www.kungfutouge.com/dyno.wmv

450 hp all the way to 9k rpms http://www.kungfutouge.com/bigtone.wmv

650 hp on this CAhttp://www.paddy.co.jp/powercheck/DEMOCAR_S13.wmv

[Jimmy351]

Hi was wondering if I can put rwd ca18 de injectors in a fwd ca18de

[Razi]

As long as they are the same sizes, sure.