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Does anyone know of the usdm ca18de in the pulsars use the same butterfly valve system as the jdm ca18det


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System is the same, but they use different parts, because Injectors are different.

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Could I use it for my butterfly valves?

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ummm I'm pretty sure its completly the same, I've pulled off USDM parts for my JDM motor and they were exactly the same.

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No, the pulsar parts are different, they have a different Fuelrail and a other fiting for it.

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he's not asking about that. He's asking about the butterfly solenoids, and the actual butterflies themselves not the fuel delivery system.

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You are talking about the canister and the solenoids? because thats what im curious about I just wanna get some of my down low torque.

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Correct im talking about the solenoids, canister, and actuator.

When I get to my job I'll try and find some pictures of what the kit looks like.

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can you post prices also im interested and so is a local CA18DET convert that was confused on what motor to use.

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This is what it looks like. If you notice the check valves the white, and purple one. Those are different as the purple is done at a slower rate.


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Will the vac stuff from the ca16de work also?

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Any dual port solenoid would work, vacuum canister. Float did some testing and I believe what mattered the most was the check valves. The purple one has a delay in it.

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Ok because I definately need this stuff. Did you have any noticeable gains when you added this stuff.

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I never installed them. Dont even drive a nissan or CA anymore. However Ryan did dyno test with and without them. The difference was 25 ft/lbs of torque. So they're definitely worth it.

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The_Chosen_One wrote:I never installed them. Dont even drive a nissan or CA anymore. However Ryan did dyno test with and without them. The difference was 25 ft/lbs of torque. So they're definitely worth it.
100% agree.

and that torque was down low sub 4krpm.

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The_Chosen_One wrote:I never installed them. Dont even drive a nissan or CA anymore. However Ryan did dyno test with and without them. The difference was 25 ft/lbs of torque. So they're definitely worth it.
Do you have the setup available?

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Unfortunately not but I might be able to pick some up tomorrow.

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Lemme know Im very interested because I don have any time to go to a junkyard other than the weekend.

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hey, im the other CA18DET guy, so these parts could i go and pick up from like advance for would i have to source a setup from someone online, if so what parts would i need exactly, if you dont mind

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No these parts you can't find at your local auto parts store. Only Nissan would carry these but than again they discontinued making parts for CA's like 3 years ago.


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I went to the junkyard yesterday and seen alot of pulsars none were ca18's but als none had the butterfly valves or maybe I wasnt looking in the right spot does anyone know where they are located on the pulars

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I'm not sure if the None CA's have the system let alone same one. However on the CA Pulsar I believe its around the Brake Master Cylinder area , near the driver strut tower. Then just follow the vacuum lines after that.

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Did you read the FAQ? You're less work and headache if you follow the Volkswagon cruise control actuator setup. I believe Nissan's works the same way as well.

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Yeah
float_6969 wrote:Did you read the FAQ? You're less work and headache if you follow the Volkswagon cruise control actuator setup. I believe Nissan's works the same way as well.
Yeah I read it but it didnt give a part number for that relay or where to get one from or any kind of info on it thats why I was just looking for the butterfly valve setup.

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Any single pole, dual throw (SPDT) relay will work, just wire it up like in the FAQ.

The diagram shows a typical Bosch-style SPDT relay, which can be had from any number of brands. Example:http://www.parts-express.com/p...0-070

Get a prewired relay boss to make your life easier such as :http://www.parts-express.com/p...0-076

The pin numbers (86, 87, etc) should be on the bottom of the relay or on a sticker on it showing their positions. Just wire the boss accordingly.

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The_Chosen_One wrote:I never installed them. Dont even drive a nissan or CA anymore. However Ryan did dyno test with and without them. The difference was 25 ft/lbs of torque. So they're definitely worth it.
Was this done with just a JDM head, or did it feature an EU head with the widemouth 4 port head?

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flohtingPoint wrote:
Was this done with just a JDM head, or did it feature an EU head with the widemouth 4 port head?
Jdm only where in fairfax do you live because I stay in woodbridge maybe we can meet up.

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fabio240 wrote:Jdm only where in fairfax do you live because I stay in woodbridge maybe we can meet up.
Fair Lakes area. My email addy is in my profile, hit me up. I'm out of town during the week for work, but the weekends I'm usually just wrenching on my 86 or hitting a bar.

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Just a heads-up to anyone looking for these parts, i have a complete set butterfly valve controls i can sell anyone who is looking for it. Its was 100% operational before i removed the system.

Email me if your interested.

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Ca_Silvia wrote:Just a heads-up to anyone looking for these parts, i have a complete set butterfly valve controls i can sell anyone who is looking for it. Its was 100% operational before i removed the system.

Email me if your interested.
DIBBS!!!!


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