Building a 2000-3000rpm spooling 400whp car?

[180sxfaktory]

Some days I am slow, some days I am not, and some days... who knows. We are all cuckoo with the heat, bro!

I probably know the guy, and for $2500 over your costs, that's a nice margin. I'm not laughing at you, bro, I am laughing with you!

[bone_stock_240]

It's even more or less more compact in the engine bay.

How does one come up with this conclusion?

[-ExCesS-]

I've been thinking of which route to go to the past few months. Im also torn between the KA-T and LS. Was gonna do engine mods next year but with all the things to think about, I pushed it to early 2009.

right now im 20% KA-T 80% LS.

[Stanislav31]

Just get the new 911 Turbo thats the only thing I can think of that has full boost at 2k rpm.

[Redevil]

Nothing wrong with an LS1 or LS2. The only question I think is really important is do you have the money for the project? If not, does your current job yeild enough money to build your car in a timely manner. You don't want to go into a project with no money set aside beforehand.

It will end up taking years to complete. Money is probably the most important thing to have when doing a project car like what you want to do. I know a guy with an FD with an LS2 putting down like 530hp at the wheels. Says he spent over $30k on it. Something you might consider before you start buying car parts.

[sommmatt]

I got halfway into the second page, and then the text raped me.

I think 180SXFaktory is right, well, I know he's right, when it comes to people not understanding horsepower. My crappy ford has 110 horsepower at the flywheel (well, it should have, 10 years ago, when it came off the assembly line), but in first gear (which is up to 40km/h redlining at 5700 haha) the little car flies faster than my buddy's Dodge Charger R/T.

I have driven a very lightweight car with 330 horsepower, the same said buddy's old SRT6 Crossfire, and that thing accelerated. It was like sitting on the Top Thrill Dragster at Cedar Point (sorry for all of you who have never been there!). Similarly, my other buddy has an SRT4 with some silly mopar bolt on bigger turbo kit, and for a FWD, that thing has insane power, and he's apparently getting around 230 horses, which is almost maxing out what FWD can take.

400 WHP is not a car for driving on the road, and I mean that. The fastest car I've ever driven was a Shelby GT500 (the new one) ... (and isn't it obvious I live in a Big 3 town?). That Shebly was certainly amazing when it came to accelerating and such, but honestly, it was way too silly, used too much gas and was practically uncontrollable and hard to drive in the city. You didn't need a lot of gas to spin the wheels. I rode the clutch a lot that day.

Well I think I'm just blabbering, but I think the car you want is way too impractical for anything but track use. And face it, you live where I live, in Ontario, which has almost nothing in the way of tracks and track days.

[frobro85]

ok i'am up, can't sleep and came across this thread.

1- your looking at this wrong from a powerband stand point2- 4000 to 8000rpms powerband on sr compared to 3000 to 7000 with the ka leaves you in the same boat different rpm(2000 to 6000 lsx)3- read point two and see thats why we have gear ratio's to keep you in your motors powerband

notice the key word powerband now put up the money and twin charge or pick a powerband

just my .02

[bone_stock_240]

Just get the new 911 Turbo thats the only thing I can think of that has full boost at 2k rpm.

The BMW 335I puts out 300 ft lbs from 1500 to 5000 rpm. They are small turbos tuned for response as opposed to top end power though. Like was said before, the 2JZ would be a good choice. Of course this is a moot point because this project will never get off the ground. Too much talking and opinion changing and not enough doing.

[180sxfaktory]

Wow! Canadians dogging Canadians!

[bone_stock_240]

Wow! Canadians dogging Canadians!

Hahaha. It is just because he is a member of my local forum also, so I have been exposed to twice as many of these threads.

This is not aimed at ahmed specifically, but it always boggles my mind how indecisive people are when it comes to imagining up projects. When I still had my 240, it took me a couple weeks worth of casual researching to decide that I wanted a CA18DET in my car. I didn't flip flop, I didn't change my mind, I didn't need others to tell me what to think. Now it didn't happen because an old lady decided to take out my car with her corolla, but if it weren't for that, it would have. And even down the road, I have a really cool and super unique idea for a project, and that hasn't changed since I got the inspiration for it. Maybe it is because I have never had an absolute horsepower goal in mind when wanting to do things. Don't get me wrong, it would be awesome to have 400 horsepower in a lightened track built s chassis, so I can go pop my hood in the parking lot to impress people, and also get groceries super duper fast.

[a_ahmed]

Well that's fine that you made your decision in such a short time to go ca, however i have goals, plans, intentions and mentality when it comes to what my car means to me. Unfortunately the local car club just doesn't fit my idea of owning a 240. You're right most of them are 'hard parkers' just wanting to show off. I drive my car for me and myself not for others. Sorry.

I just believe not too many people have the spirit of the 50s, 60s, and such when people loved to own cars that were constantly improving, enjoying what they worked hard on over time.

For instance, whenever I talk to some older gents who were into cars in their youth, they speak about owning classic porsches, 911s, 914s, 944s, bmws, mucsle cars, chevs, v8s, whatever heck even modified saabs and volvos and how they enjoyed these cars. It's a beatiful thing, and even more when they kept these projects. This is something I intend to keep... not have a cheap thrill with. So getting a ca is easy, swapping it is easy, but so what.

Anyways there's too many reasons personally that i would go for with an LSx swap. Lower mileage engine/transmission, much greater reliability, cheaper and plenty domestic performance parts, plenty more potential (although anything beyond 600whp is just stupid), even weight which I'm obsessed with, seems kind of cool to me, I whine about 5lbs up and down on the car itself, so it does matter to me. Adding another 100lbs to the front with some of the options is not my choice. Sorry..

If I wanted to build a drag car, I'd just fit the softest suspension, biggest tires, and craziest engine up front to rip the rear tires to pieces. Whoopie do anybody can do that.

Compared to other options, heck even if you must say, more mpg if not driven hard and kept in 6th on the highway. Better driveability around town. Sorry but, going from car to car, when there is no torque in the bottom end, it just sucks to be reviing and making noises to get the car moving. Amazing power, from down low, its just awesome overall to me.

But who cares. It's my personal choice. I am sticking to this plan like glue. I did not know how awesome small block chevy engines were. I always assumed in ignorance they would be heavy scraps of inefficient metal, until I read about them more especially the newer generation of LSx engines.

I know many think its a pipe dream, but so did other people when I was initially just getting the car itself two years ago. In the end i proved others wrong even though it took some time to get it all but they loved the car.

This is a long term project, i say 3-4 years until everything is done and done, I'm progressing slowly with it and I'm happy that way. I intend to keep it, another key difference amongst majority of people who just wnat cheap thrills fast for a while until they tire out.

Just now I spent about 1500 on some suspension and chassis pieces. It's great, and thats what matters to me, not what others think.

On everything I do from now on, I will either do it right however long it takes or not do it at all. However many minor indifferences there may be, I feel the benefits worthwhile. I don't want cheap solutions, unless I consider the solution itself overpriced and I'm getting ripped off plain and simple.

Some people thought me paying initially on the car 800$ and then spending a few thousand in restoring the regulars was a waste. For example, new fuel tank straps, fuel lines, water pump, oil pump, small things like this that do not improve the performance, but just make things reliable.. to me they matter. Sure I might get a fuel cell down the line but hey. I personally don't think its all a waste. I will eventually compile a journal with before and after pix. I have the pix of when I first purchased the car, it was piece of crap that belonged to a junkyard.

Each time I cheapened out on something I paid BIG later somehow. So yeah this engine/drivetrain project will cost 10k most likely, but when all is done and done, consider the performance yields and see whether its a bargain or not. How many other cars will have its performance reliably and be able to be street driven, how much do they cost? Now we may argue on possibilities, but this is my choice.

I initially thought I would go boosted, but its just not worthwhile compared to this in my opinion. If I will ever go boosted on this engine it'll be with a supercharger, and my goal is just a stock LS1/LS2 first and foremost.

Last but not least, I came to three local car meets bonestock and that is all. You're right most of these people are what you call 'hard parkers' but I'm not, sorry. When I first started going on my 240 with zero knowledge I came to see what others had to get some ideas at the time. That was a year ago btw. Haven't come since.

Wanting to impress others and give each other hard ons. Sorry, I don't. I drive my car for myself and enjoy my car for myself, only intending to impress myself by personal achievements .. for myself. Unfortunately in our local car club, it seems that the only reason anyone does anything is to impress the other side. Sorry. Heck if my car is super clean or super dirty even, I'm not going to care what others think to put it simply, I'm not here or there to impress.

Lets leave it at that. Do I have the money for the project? Well considering I'm giving myself a time frame of 3-4 years to do all that I intend to, I believe I do. In the end I'm just a regular guy, working, married, happy with life, and this is my hobby. My car. My car which I enjoy having, driving, and improving. Simple.

No in your face "look at me" type stuff. Sorry. To each their own. I've had experiences of that sort, but in the end I realized wow. People need to value themselves, family and life more.

Last year when I drove some guy's 2003 srt10 in Brampton, every head turned, I was laughing, big grin and laughter, how cheap people value themselves and how they make themselves valued less than a piece of metal. After I got out of the car, I was like... wow... sad how people get easily impressed, after all its a huge scrap of metal, that cost ALOT of money. The car itself? It was nice, it was fun to drive and in the end that's all I cared about.

My 240. Does it turn heads? Not really, nor do I care, but ocassionaly I get 240 freaks or people who know about the car yelling and honking "HEY HEY YOU HAVE A 240". Like yesterday on the 401 I had an old lady scare the crap out of me honking and doing all kinds of hand motions and then when I'm like "hello what did I do mam" she is like "I HAVE ONE TOO!!"... I'm like a what?. She points to the car and gives a thumbs up. I sure did not intend that, I just laughed and said cool.

In the end I drove my wife and myself home and parked the car. Enjoyed the day and that was it. Get my point? My point. I just drive my car, and I care more about how it performs to me than what to others or what others will think of it. To put it simply, I do not share the mentality of the local car club and the 'hard parkers' and show offness.

A car is a car, I love cars. And I love my car... Most of the S13s on the road look like ****, badly maintained and rusted. The reason is, because most of them don't care. When I wash my car, I wash it for hours on hours until its mirror shiny

[bone_stock_240]

The one thing that you always deliver without fail, is super long posts! I just have a bad taste in my mouth dealing with the SON people. Lowballers the likes of which I have never seen, except for a select few. Everyone also has to have the cool JDM accessories, and all the little doo dads that they will never use. People on Nico are like that too, but it is just so much worse on SON. And all the "Yo man, I am a mad tyte drifter. FCUK tha police" **** that goes on on that site is crazy. It seems almost 50/50 between the idiots, and the people with at least a shred of common sense. Ah well.

You do have a bad habit of talking too much about your plans, without any significant results to show for it. Get of NICO and get to work. NOW. Also, I do not really agree with having a fixed horsepower goal, as opposed to just having the horsepower to get the job done perfectly. Having a HP goal seems like it is more for bragging rights, and self satisfaction then it is for overall chassis dynamics. Who knows, you may be able to get exactly the results you want with 320 hp, but you will never know, because you are so set on 400. Just curious, but why 400? At least at 300 hp, you could make funny references to the movie.

[a_ahmed]

Well I like to know all my options and to research, and put not just effort but great effort in something when I do it. Most people just want to be jdm tyte (how lame? It reminds me of mtv and bet videos and how people want to be ghetto and gangster lmao, get a grip on reality)

400 to see if it's possible, to see the potential of engine choices as its a big figure to maintain reliably, and to see how it can be extracted. Difference of engines in weight, ever so many things. Just my curiosity, for myself to do something as my car is my hobby.

What's the point of a 1000whp supra if its for a few moments in the high rpm range, that each time you shift you loose all that and have nothing in the bottom. So 400whp could be done easily but just how and through which means and with what results.

Anyone can slap a big turbo and make that on the top end...

KAT would be my second choice as it was my first choice. I spent a month, did my research on it. I could get 400whp reliably maybe a few more for 8000$ with everything done and done properly, but it would be the upper limit of the engine with still I would say questionable reliability and too much complexity. Going further than that and it'll just turn to be a high end drag car (still awesome but not my intention).

So LS1/2 = great balanced choice imho. Remember when people laughed at me posing questions about tire sizes, compounds, whatever. I had my reasons to do so. But you're right, no point in discussing plans or ideas with people as everyone has their own limits, goals and ideas.. it kind of anoys people I guess. It has to do with personal ego, everyone's. If people had different intentions, everyone would get along and help each other achieve better results. I learned the hard way on son that people mostly care about jdm tyteness lol and hard parking or worse yet just showing off... and that NOTHING is useful OR possible unless they themselves have it. And those that do have it get practically worshipped and when one gets it, they think they're the shiznit... for the whole world to see. Not my type of fish, I got diff taste lol.

See that's the problem. Automatically people's mentality is that it's to show off. Why? Because most people think that way... or have come to expect it due to the fact how people are!

The thing is, I see forums as a way of people sharing information not to show off, but to learn and trade ideas and experience, with no intention of putting the other person down and getting things happening ultimately for themselves and one another, thus making the community better.

On the other hand for a bad example lookat SON when any new member joins. They get **** talked to by the 'elite', no matter what they say or ask. I've witnessed it for a year and a half. Lets say their question is even stupid like can I mount a jet engine on my 240. If a true spirit of enthusiasm and say lol love amongst enthusiasts existed in that one community, things would get done alot better. Friendlier answers, friendlier results, actual results, and nourishment of the community. . Is asking a question stupid? Really stupid though? Maybe the person doesn't know better? Thus needs advice and knowledge. Maybe they know something or wants to try something no one else has thought up? Still needs advice and knowledge. Instead if someone asks something its a "LOL LOL ***, search button" or "gtfo newb" or something like that.

Usually at the beginning of anything everyone loves each other and each other's ideas, but as a select few get up in levels, achieve things, they start being arrogant and put down others or anyone else who comes. That's what SON is to me. It's like corporations, when small act so friendly and for the customer, when big start exploiting slaves in china and india lol.
Modified by a_ahmed at 3:43 PM 8/16/2007

[180sxfaktory]

I just believe not too many people have the spirit of the 50s, 60s, and such when people loved to own cars that were constantly improving, enjoying what they worked hard on over time.

So getting a ca is easy, swapping it is easy, but so what.

Anyways there's too many reasons personally that i would go for with an LSx swap. Lower mileage engine/transmission, much greater reliability, cheaper and plenty domestic performance parts, plenty more potential (although anything beyond 600whp is just stupid), even weight which I'm obsessed with, seems kind of cool to me, I whine about 5lbs up and down on the car itself, so it does matter to me. Adding another 100lbs to the front with some of the options is not my choice. Sorry..

If I wanted to build a drag car, I'd just fit the softest suspension, biggest tires, and craziest engine up front to rip the rear tires to pieces. Whoopie do anybody can do that.

When I wash my car, I wash it for hours on hours until its mirror shiny

If those cars were so cool back in the day, and yeah, I was old enough to see the Chevelle SS, Boss Mustang and a slew of other pony cars when they were on the showroom floor, then why in the hell do we have Pro Touring? Those guys are taking the cars of that era and moding them with current technology. The spirit of the 60's died a horrible death when people got a feel for MacPherson struts and fuel injection and forced induction. If you must know, I did own a '66 Fastback and a '64 Ford Fairlane coupe hardtop, and I tell you, if I had the stuff we have now, that stuff I had to deal with would have been tossed out for some new flavor. I am not the only one who feels that way.

What do you know of CA swaps? Have you ever done one? Again, bro... talk, talk, talk. Do you know the safety parameters with that power plant? What the sweet spot is?

Anyway, quit talking like you have done this and that and just turn to (get to work and pipe down) Writing long dissertations on how you spent the day with wifey is for the office. Great. You are married. Congratulations. Guess what. I am fukkin grandpa, but you don't see me throwing that fact around on here, do you? No. Cars. Cars. Cars that you own. Cars that you have worked on. Cars that you have had break on you. Cars, bro C-A-R-S.

Damn! I don't even know you, but I know why the other boards hate you! You are just TALK TALK TALK.

[a_ahmed]

If those cars were so cool back in the day, and yeah, I was old enough to see the Chevelle SS, Boss Mustang and a slew of other pony cars when they were on the showroom floor, then why in the hell do we have Pro Touring? Those guys are taking the cars of that era and moding them with current technology. The spirit of the 60's died a horrible death when people got a feel for MacPherson struts and fuel injection and forced induction. If you must know, I did own a '66 Fastback and a '64 Ford Fairlane coupe hardtop, and I tell you, if I had the stuff we have now, that stuff I had to deal with would have been tossed out for some new flavor. I am not the only one who feels that way.

What do you know of CA swaps? Have you ever done one? Again, bro... talk, talk, talk. Do you know the safety parameters with that power plant? What the sweet spot is?

Anyway, quit talking like you have done this and that and just turn to (get to work and pipe down) Writing long dissertations on how you spent the day with wifey is for the office. Great. You are married. Congratulations. Guess what. I am fukkin grandpa, but you don't see me throwing that fact around on here, do you? No. Cars. Cars. Cars that you own. Cars that you have worked on. Cars that you have had break on you. Cars, bro C-A-R-S.

Damn! I don't even know you, but I know why the other boards hate you! You are just TALK TALK TALK.

For a grandpa you sure talk like an arrogant as$hole. The unfriendly attitude you have is what I'm talking of.

Even if you owned ten bugattis, 20 400whp cars and were 200 years old and saw the first airplane for all I care, I would not respect you the way you think and talk towards me. Don't really care if you don't respect me in the end though; like you said you don't even know me.

When a select few get somewhere, they get so f'en arrogant and snobby. Sorry, as much as you're respected for owning 180sx faktory and whatnot, you sure act as a rude loser.

Unfriendly $hit talking elitism and arrogance of how great you are and i will never achieve anything is what ruins the potential of anyone's enthusiasm in cars imho. But sorry, your CA and SR can stay in your car it's awesome and I know your jdm (lol) grandpa cars.

I don't quite remember when or where I mentioned mcpherson suspension design in this thread, heck even less carburetors. I believe I was talking about people pushing limits with cars, the willingness to improve their cars back in the 50s and 60s. The love to achieve something. Real enthusiasm. What I do remember implying is that other older people I talked to, did not speak in the way you speak like an as$hole, and talked about the cars they drove, the love for those cars and all the things they did, thought of doing, how they did, or how they were going to do, etc... Basically real enthusiasm towards cars, not prick attitude.

In the end you were just in here to talk $hit to me and put down my lack of knowledge, curiosity and general enthusiasm to want to learn something, achieve something and make myself a goal, not exactly helpful, just elitist. I've made up my mind on the ls1/2. The end. No need to $hit talk to me like an as$hole anymore.
Modified by a_ahmed at 4:13 PM 8/16/2007

[redtop91]

The only way you'll see that is with a large displacement domestic motor.

[180sxfaktory]

For a grandpa you sure talk like an arrogant as$hole. The unfriendly attitude you have is what I'm talking of.

Even if you owned ten bugattis, 20 400whp cars and were 200 years old and saw the first airplane for all I care, I would not respect you the way you think and talk towards me. Don't really care if you don't respect me in the end though; like you said you don't even know me.

When a select few get somewhere, they get so ****en arrogant and snobby. Sorry, as much as you're respected for owning 180sx faktory and whatnot, you sure act as a rude loser.

Unfriendly **** talking elitism and arrogance of how great you are and i will never achieve anything is what ruins the potential of anyone's enthusiasm in cars imho. But sorry, your CA and SR can stay in your car it's awesome and I know your grandpa cars. I don't quite get remember when or where I mentioned mcpherson suspension design in this thread. I believe I was talking about people pushing limits with cars, the willingness to improve their cars back in the 50s and 60s. What I do remember implying is that other older people I talked to, did not speak in the way you speak like an as$hole, and talked about the cars they drove, the love for those cars and all the things they did, thought of doing, how they did, or how they were going to do, etc... Basically real enthusiasm towards cars, not prick attitude.

You are the kind of person who comes to my shop, talks big story, wants this and that and is only willing to pay 100 dinars for 1000 dinars of work, and yes, I politely say, please leave.

I got my prick attitude from the school of hard knocks and coming up the hard way- doing it, blowing it up and learning from it. You- You're all talk. Just turn to. You've done nothing, you've come here asking questions you already had a pre-determined answer for, and you kind of warned us what happened to you previously. Just leave, and no, I don't really give two squirts of cold piss to the heart what you think of me. I know what I can do, I help those who are aren't smart-a$$es like you who carry an heir like they know everything yet know nothing,. You've wasted our time, so please let's not waste anymore of yours. Bye bye!

[a_ahmed]

You are the kind of person who comes to my shop, talks big story, wants this and that and is only willing to pay 100 dinars for 1000 dinars of work, and yes, I politely say, please leave.

I got my prick attitude from the school of hard knocks and coming up the hard way- doing it, blowing it up and learning from it. You- You're all talk. Just turn to. You've done nothing, you've come here asking questions you already had a pre-determined answer for, and you kind of warned us what happened to you previously. Just leave, and no, I don't really give two squirts of cold piss to the heart what you think of me. I know what I can do, I help those who are aren't smart-a$$es like you who carry an heir like they know everything yet know nothing,. You've wasted our time, so please let's not waste anymore of yours. Bye bye!

Sorry I'm the kind of guy that would not cross the front door of an as$hole's shop like yours, much less give you even half a dirham for your arrogance and snobbiness. You came to my thread, I did not come to your shop lol, or send you an invitation card, you chose to 'waste' your time o' holy mechanic of I'm so great and better than you. You yourself chose to come in here and act like an ******* to me, rude, and putting me down.

10k dollars is not 1000 dinnar jackass. In fact one dollar is something like 3.16 dirham at most exchanges. I could have been 'cheap', but 8k on a built kat is also not 'cheap' either. I would have to spend 3k on JUST a STOCK (most likely BEATEN to DEATH, how can you depend on a japanese junkyard->importer->Unknown origins, etc... engine from a japanese sports car most likely not driven by a grandma) SR or 1.5k on a STOCK BEATEN old CA, that's older than my car itself. Why would I waste my money on something that came from a Japanese junkyard with unknown status, for JUST stock performance (obviously below stock since it came from factory)? No thanks. KAT was a better option for me. But since I learned about LSx engines. Nope.

If I wanted to create something cheap, I would have created a thread "Cheap 400whp fast now" or something. Which is far from what I asked for, and def a stupid thing, cause you can't have reliability and cheapness in the same formula.

So yeah, bye bye, to your rude attitude. Thanks but no thanks frickin jerk.

[hungryjoseph]

hurry up and install the motor. i still haven't read the thread. do you know what 400whp feels like? honestly, you should start light and go bigger later... you will kill yourself with 400whp in a 2600lb car if you don't know how to drive, and how to build the car in general.

[nismojunkie]

I dont see why you are getting all butthurt about 180sx. All you have done is talk and talk and repeat yourself about this and that engine and this and that weight and the godly number of 400. To me you dont sound like you have researched much or know much of what you want out of this whole setup.

[180sxfaktory]

Sorry I'm the kind of guy that would not cross the front door of an as$hole's shop like yours, much less give you even half a dirham for your arrogance and snobbiness. You came to my thread, I did not come to your shop lol, or send you an invitation card, you chose to 'waste' your time o' holy mechanic of I'm so great and better than you. You yourself chose to come in here and act like an ******* to me, rude, and putting me down.

10k dollars is not 1000 dinnar jackass. In fact one dollar is something like 3.16 dirham at most exchanges. I could have been 'cheap', but 8k on a built kat is also not 'cheap' either. I would have to spend 3k on JUST a STOCK (most likely BEATEN to DEATH, how can you depend on a japanese junkyard->importer->Unknown origins, etc... engine from a japanese sports car most likely not driven by a grandma) SR or 1.5k on a STOCK BEATEN old CA, that's older than my car itself. Why would I waste my money on something that came from a Japanese junkyard with unknown status, for JUST stock performance (obviously below stock since it came from factory)? No thanks. KAT was a better option for me. But since I learned about LSx engines. Nope.

If I wanted to create something cheap, I would have created a thread "Cheap 400whp fast now" or something. Which is far from what I asked for, and def a stupid thing, cause you can't have reliability and cheapness in the same formula.

So yeah, bye bye, to your rude attitude. Thanks but no thanks frickin jerk.

You're in the wrong country assjack. We don't do dirham here. If you want dirham, go to UAE. It's dinar in Ba7rain, fool. Seems like you need to come and get re-acquainted. You came into this place all innocent and how you got butthurt for the same stuff you've been playing here. You wanna start throwing names? Go right ahead. Just shows that you are easily offended. No, I don't want your money and I don't snivel. I work with people who are honest about their knowledge, be it beginner or pro. You came in here like you are lost and need help, and then when people throw suggestions your way, you start coming back like this isn't good, that isn't good, blah blah blah... and all the sudden you are the expert on this and that and the other thing. Stupid is one thing, but to be stupid and try to play it like you are smart, that's even stupider. As I said, you are the type who gets thrown out on their a$$ for trying to be something they are not. I don't dig fakes, and believe me, you are as fake as they come.

Anyway, edelef fakhar. Masalama, gandu!

[Razi]

I think ahmed is e-thuggin!

[a_ahmed]

You're in the wrong country assjack. We don't do dirham here. If you want dirham, go to UAE. It's dinar in Ba7rain, fool. Seems like you need to come and get re-acquainted. You came into this place all innocent and how you got butthurt for the same stuff you've been playing here. You wanna start throwing names? Go right ahead. Just shows that you are easily offended. No, I don't want your money and I don't snivel. I work with people who are honest about their knowledge, be it beginner or pro. You came in here like you are lost and need help, and then when people throw suggestions your way, you start coming back like this isn't good, that isn't good, blah blah blah... and all the sudden you are the expert on this and that and the other thing. Stupid is one thing, but to be stupid and try to play it like you are smart, that's even stupider. As I said, you are the type who gets thrown out on their a$$ for trying to be something they are not. I don't dig fakes, and believe me, you are as fake as they come.

Anyway, edelef fakhar. Masalama, gandu!

LMAO! Seriously, how old are you? 60? I doubt it. You make a lot of wishful claims, I don't like YOUR suggestions for sr/ca swaps. Get over it. I never said once i'm an expert, in fact i said the contrary. Get over yourself, the fact that I did not take YOUR advice and someone else's. I never intended to continue discussing anything with you, because of the way you talk, I don't like YOUR ideas, I liked someone ELSE's ideas, you just came in here to act like a jack *** in my thread and thats pretty much ALL the help you offered. What a loser, on top of that acting arrogant and snobby, looking down upon me, gandu? Saying that gives me an idea of who you are lmao, go eating some chapatti bud. I don't care if its dirham or dinar, or even rupees, you sound like an a$swipe not deserving of a penny. Stop getting defensive saying you don't need my money lolll who said I would have ever paid you for anything?

Go JDM elsewhere. I don't like your ideas, I chose someone else's suggestions and ideas. The end. lol

[redtop91]

Come on guys let's keep this civil. Both you and 180 have valid points. Let's agree to disagree and go our separate ways. 180, you have given your opinion, if he chooses not to accept it, whether it be right or wrong, that is a choice he has the right to make and one you don't have the right to question. Now let's try this again.

[hungryjoseph]

just do your swap. people who make threads like these are the people who end up NOT doing anything. i hope you understand when building 400whp, you're going to need to do ALOT more than motor work. You ask for opinions, you get opinions. Instead of declaring something useless or final, ask questions, and always assume you don't know the whole story. If you haven't noticed, many of the people around here just do what they want to do. if they want an SR, they install an SR. You got your opinions and tips from other people through this thread, so just go do what you want. alot of talk and no walk will get you torn up on the internet, and in life. this applies to everything you do, not only cars. what 180 has seen is alot of talk from you, so it's only natural for him to respond as he does. what YOU should've done is not respond back, and just come back later with a build thread. reading your posts, i can conclude you don't know what 400whp feels like. once you can drive, that's when you start worring about "low end". A good driver will always bring the peak power out of his car, and everyone on this forum will agree with me on that. You should go learn how to drive your 155hp KA before doing anything like 400whp. And if you can already drive, thats great! i don't care, and neither does anyone else on this forum so you don't have to respond back with a "i can drive why are you making false statements" post. i only wasted 5 minutes of my time writing this so i can help you out. the best "post" you can make now is a build thread, with your ls1 installed. Now, i can almost be positive that you're offended by my "you don't know what 400whp feels like" statement. true or not, suck it up, or just let it go. just go prove me wrong with some track times, drift videos, etc.

[bone_stock_240]

I think the problem that people on this forum and others have with ahmed, is he asks for advice (which is commendable, because he is obviously lacking in experience and knowledge), but then when he gets advice that he deems to be bad, he tears it apart. You made it seem like the SR was a laggy piece of **** no potential engine. It is true what hungryj was saying though about the powerband. If you watch the tach when built up small displacement FI engines are lapping, it almost never drops below 4000 rpm. Low end grunt is great for getting groceries, and loading up the car with the wife and kids for the weekend though.

Skyline time attack with camera on tachhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhpvSasZUjw

Mine's skyline lapping with camera on tachhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42KwIMakoaE

I guess you already know all this since you are an expert though.

[180sxfaktory]

My last piece of advice, and take it for what it is worth, go back to school and brush up on English comprehension. None of your rebuttals even came close to matching what you were trying to rebuke me about. I think the majority of folks here will back me on this. I not once even mentioned what you should do or buy. I questioned your knowledge base, and that was found to be seriously lacking. As I said, you came here seeking help. People gave it to you and you quckly went off on them with long dissertations that said nothing. Not once did you offer any new knowledge. As for me, I never offered you anything but some hard advice on going and doing your homework before you come on here trying to refute people who have knowledge light-years beyond you and me. As hungryjoseph says, shut up and go do your build because nobody here is buying what you are trying to pass off.

Oh, and another thing, don't even try to start getting prejudice here. You start dropping hints against Hindi, Paki, Bengali, Arab, Persian, Chaldean, and you will probably get dog piled and ex'ed out of here. Don't believe me? Try it. Don't act like you don't know what I am talking about. I know your kind.

[Elementary]

Allright boys I just can't leave this one alone. First off I am a third grade English teacher at Ibn Khuldoon National school, that is in Bahrain, and agree that there has been a general lack of topic sentence and supporting detail in some of the above posts. I always stress the importance of topic sentence and supporting detail in my class. Second, in Bahrain we use the Bahraini Dinar which is commonly abbreviated BD. BD1 is $2.65. I can be so sure because the BD is fixed to the U.S. dollar. The Dirham is used in the U.A.E. As a parting message I would suggest that more people learn to speak some Arabic. That last comment should be of particular interest to someone.

180sxfaktory I am going to have to come check out your shop. Maybe you can make my 1.4L Opel Astra go really fast so I can compete with all the drivers that transport my Al Khalifa students around. Those guys are fast, or rather the cars they drive are. Cheers.

[180sxfaktory]

Shakbarat, habibi! You are welcome anytime! Next month, I will be relocating to a bigger space in Salmabad. Regardless, you can find me either in Madinat Hamad or in Salmabad.

Yala!

[180sxfaktory]

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Allright boys I just can't leave this one alone. First off I am a third grade English teacher at Ibn Khuldoon National school, that is in Bahrain, and agree that there has been a general lack of topic sentence and supporting detail in some of the above posts. I always stress the importance of topic sentence and supporting detail in my class. Second, in Bahrain we use the Bahraini Dinar which is commonly abbreviated BD. BD1 is $2.65. I can be so sure because the BD is fixed to the U.S. dollar. The Dirham is used in the U.A.E. As a parting message I would suggest that more people learn to speak some Arabic. That last comment should be of particular interest to someone.

180sxfaktory I am going to have to come check out your shop. Maybe you can make my 1.4L Opel Astra go really fast so I can compete with all the drivers that transport my Al Khalifa students around. Those guys are fast, or rather the cars they drive are. Cheers.

I just noticed, but why haven't I seen you around? Not too many of us here have an S chassis in Ba7rain.