Bringing Sexy Back... Again. [240/Silvia Revival]

[Cap'n Morgatz]

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/1...it-to/

So yeah, anyone think it might actually happen this time? I hope so, but if it does they'll need to keep the cost down so that people will buy it. Creating a lightweight, RWD, no-frills performance-oriented tuner's car is going to be no easy task, but if anyone can do it, it'll be the company that INVENTED it. ^_^

Seriously, though. Turbocharged i4 (SR20VET, anyone?), manual gearbox, no electronic crap save A/C (unfortunately necessary in the American market) and POSSIBLY (if they can keep the weight down and include a switch to toggle them on and off) ABS and stability control. LSD as an option, possibly a couple of different trims. Starting price around the same as the Altima coupe, possibly lower (won't cut into its sales as its a RWD without most of the electronic features). Provided a substantial aftermarket is in place (and why wouldn't it be, considering it's the successor to one of the most widely-loved tuner's cars ever), this could be utterly win.

[Oh, and for the record, the picture in the article is a Foria concept which was based on the '60s Silvias and will probably NOT be what the finished product would look like. Not that I'd mind, personally.]

[Cameron]

that thing is so ugly. this is the only nice concept they have came up with.





looks too much like the genesis though. but face it guys the genesis is the new 240.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

I hope it doesn't. Every single render they've come up with looks ugly as hell.

[Cameron]

this one looks modern and actually would be sick if dropped on some nice 19's or something.



imagine it in black, slammed on some sick a** wheels.. trunk just needs to be a smidge longer

[Cap'n Morgatz]

The Foria isn't a render, it's a concept from '06. The Genesis is not the new 240--although it at least tries to fill the same niche, it's too heavy and the aftermarket isn't and may never be there. Personally I'm hoping they go back and clean up the lines from the s13 or s14 Kouki. Oh, also, they need to call it the Silvia here this time--it's a much better name. =D

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Every single render they've come up with looks ugly as hell.

[Cameron]

ok lets use our brains here..

2 door RWD coupe. 2.0 turboed motor, relatively cheap, good looking sports car that kids like. yea. that sums up new 240.

[Cameron]

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and man, nothing never gonna be the same as s13 s14 or s15, they have to design to appeal to the new generation, the new S chassis will look nothing like the old ones unfortunately they waited too long to make another one after the s15 died. the Z chassis is the only car that has continued to be badass.

honda and toyota is whooping nissans a** though in looks for their new sports coupes.

New 86

New CRX

oh PS. you can forget about this concept coming into reality. even though this is the best one that has been rendered cause it resembles the s15. but the reason they would never sell this car is because well, it would quite possibly be the sexiest nissan made, and if they sold it theyd have to price it more than the GTR because it looks so much better, theyd never sell this car for 20,000 cause everyone would say screw the GTR and 370z and it would kill nissans sales on those two cars so much..


Modified by Cameron at 1:12 AM 3/19/2010

[ILoveMyRHS13]

and man, nothing never gonna be the same as s13 s14 or s15, they have to design to appeal to the new generation, the new S chassis will look nothing like the old ones unfortunately they waited too long to make another one after the s15 died. the Z chassis is the only car that has continued to be badass.

Exactly. Which is why this is still a gamble for Nissan. There is no way to tell if this will be a success if they already have such hits as the Z. Plus, then you'll see every 18 year old with the new 240 because they're parents bought it for them. Thus killing the car...

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[Cameron]

ya, check my edit.

[Cap'n Morgatz]

Both of those cars are disgustingly angular, especially the CRX. I'd rather see something with some clean, swept lines. Also, hopefully any kid driving the car we're talking about here will have sense enough to not be a douche with it. I mean, I'm not even sure they should have automatic transmission as an option on this thing. Besides, as long as they stick to the Silvia's roots as a tuner's car, the ricers will stick to their CRXes and Civics.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

I would drive this.

[Cameron]

um, was the original CRX not disgustingly angular? and the only way i see a new S chassis come is if the Z dies. thats they only way. Honda and Toyota have it good, cause they havent had a nice sportscar in a while, minus the s2000 of course. but now that the s2k's dead they are in need for another. so they WILL prosper with the new CRX. and toyota hasnt had a sports car since the last supra, and it was smart of them to give the new supra to their lexus division to pave way for the FT86.

[Cap'n Morgatz]

Well, we can hope Nissan won't be stupid enough to let Honda and Toyota/Subaru corner the market. Especially since Honda's is still Fail-Wheel-Drive, that basically makes the only serious contender for the market the Toybaru. Besides, Nissan invented the tuner's car. They'll do it right, especially considering that cheap sporty cars are going to be extremely popular during the aftermath of this economic downturn.

[Cameron]

fail wheel drive? there is nothing wrong with FWD.

this FRONT WHEEL DRIVE crx will rape any 240 on this site hahaha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7o8v-Pu9y0

it aint all about driftin brah.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

fail wheel drive? there is nothing wrong with FWD.

this FRONT WHEEL DRIVE crx will rape any 240 on this site hahaha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7o8v-Pu9y0

it aint all about driftin brah.

This is still one of my favorite videos to date.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhghRPqLhP8

[CaptainTrips]

This is still one of my favorite videos to date.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhghRPqLhP8

Vroooooooooooom

[OM3GA]

I would also drive this.

[sx moneypit]

Yes sir!

[Ninjamasta]

Nissan as of right now has no reason to produce another low buget tuner car. Why would they do that when they have 370z and GTRs? Not to mention, many 240 owners would probally upgrade to a used 350z, instead.

[roadboy240sx]

Nissan as of right now has no reason to produce another low buget tuner car. Why would they do that when they have 370z and GTRs? Not to mention, many 240 owners would probally upgrade to a used 350z, instead.

cuz not every one can afford a 370z and may never come close to a gtr.

[TroubleBound]

Let the legend Rest In Peace.

[masterdisaster]

i would have sex with this

[Cap'n Morgatz]

fail wheel drive? there is nothing wrong with FWD.

this FRONT WHEEL DRIVE crx will rape any 240 on this site hahaha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7o8v-Pu9y0

it aint all about driftin brah.

Until you try to race it on Western Maryland backroads and understeer it off a cliff. =P I don't care about drifting, but I want a car that does more than go fast in a straight line. Also, anyone under 40 driving a Honda is automatically a ricer. If they don't actually rice out their cars, it's because they're a poor ricer.

As for the rest of you, I'll give you three reasons why people would buy a 240. It'd be cheaper than the Z, thus giving young people and people who can't afford a Z in this economy the chance to rock out in an epic Nissan. It will be a tuner's car, which we haven't had in America since '98 when we stopped importing the OLD 240s. It'll be lighter than the Z and lighter BY FAR than the GT-R, giving it different handling characteristics for people (like me) who like them. And a turbocharged i4 is both easier to maintain and easier on the gas than the v6s Nissan's been using lately.

...Okay, four reasons. So sue.

[Crazyirish]

theyd never sell this car for 20,000 cause everyone would say screw the GTR and 370z and it would kill nissans sales on those two cars so much..

I keep seeing this, but the fact is is that NOONE goes "hmmm should I get the $20k, the $40k or the $80k car?" People tend to buy in a specific price range.

[RB13240]

Anyone driving a honda under 40 = ricer? I drive a honda as my winter beater, I wouldnt dare put my 240 through another Canadian winter. The Honda is typically an A-B car for most people.

Back to the concept of re-releasing the 240 it's just like Cameron and Ninjamasta said, they will never release another car which will provide competition for the GTR and 370. If they do re-release the 240 expect everything you didnt want and nothing you want in the new 240. Expect something worse than any of the crappy concepts thus far.

[93sivliaUsdm]

so this is rice and im a ricer?

[numbnuts240]

Until you try to race it on Western Maryland backroads and understeer it off a cliff. =P I don't care about drifting, but I want a car that does more than go fast in a straight line. Also, anyone under 40 driving a Honda is automatically a ricer. If they don't actually rice out their cars, it's because they're a poor ricer.

soooo much ignorance in that portion of your post

As for the rest of you, I'll give you three reasons why people would buy a 240. It'd be cheaper than the Z, thus giving young people and people who can't afford a Z in this economy the chance to rock out in an epic Nissan. It will be a tuner's car, which we haven't had in America since '98 when we stopped importing the OLD 240s. It'll be lighter than the Z and lighter BY FAR than the GT-R, giving it different handling characteristics for people (like me) who like them. And a turbocharged i4 is both easier to maintain and easier on the gas than the v6s Nissan's been using lately.

...Okay, four reasons. So sue.

right, the people who cry about not being able to afford to build their beat up, used, old cars are going to be able to afford a brand new car and mod it. there is nothing epic about a 1.8l turbo car. handling and mpg's are moot points.

until nna specifically states that they are bringing back the s-chassis, everything is hearsay and published hopes and dreams. just let the damned subject go until nna says yay, or nay. and iirc, last time they spoke about it, it was a nay.

[numbnuts240]

so this is rice and im a ricer?

http://i295.photobucket.com/al...5.jpg

if that's your lude, kudos, because that s***'s hot.

[Cap'n Morgatz]

So apparently people don't understand the concept of a joke as far as the Honda comment goes. =P

Anyway, no, a $20,000 car will not compete with a $36,000 car, much less an $80,000 car. They fill ENTIRELY different market niches and anyone who's taken an economics class will understand that. Entry-Level Performance<Sports Car<Supercar. Similarly, Nissan will not release a car that is worse than the upcoming FT86, nor will they let Toyota/Subaru corner the market for this type of car. As long as they don't make the same mistake they did with the 240 (releasing a grossly inferior version to the American market), they'll be a prime competitor for the FT86. The CR-Z won't compete with either since it's going the "performance hybrid" route, which might be impressive but will, again, appeal to a different market segment.

InsideLine CLAIMS it's already been confirmed for Japan, but I'll wait until an official announcement before I jump for joy. Doesn't mean we can't talk about it, though, right?