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Snarlynx
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Those are pretty nice even though you got them because they were (fairly) cheap. If you find any in the 17 inch size let me know. (I'll powder coat the spokes so you don't have to worry about a 240sx twin floating around out there).


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Juan--

If you're used to 235 tires in 17" size and haven't driven the car with anything substantially then you won't think they make a big difference. But my stock wheels/tires were 35 pounds; the 5zigen 17" wheel/tire combo was 46 pounds. That's ~45 pounds of increased rotating mass that I put on, and I immediately felt the difference. And at 9 psi, my car is by no means slow. But to each their own.

What exactly are the differences between the q45 and the 300zx calipers/rotors? IIRC i thought the rotors were the same size--but are the q45 4 piston?

Does anyone know if wilwood makes 4 piston calipers that use the OEM size rotor? I know they make them for hondas...

Snarlynx--the primary reason i got them was to save weight--not money. I paid quite a bit for them actually ($700 shipped), but compared to other work three piece wheels in the same excellent condition, I think I got a good deal. Plus, they were EXACTLY what i had been looking for for months. I was thinking about getting the spokes powdercoated too--but to what color? Black? Emerald green? I'm not so sure if it'd look good. My dad has 3 piece revolution modular wheels with a polished lip on his austin healey; powdercoated yellow spokes to match the rest of his yellow car. Looks good on his car anyway.

Marc

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Your car color is Green? Hmmm, I don't know what will match... Black will look good but other than that, I don't know. My car is white and black wheels with a polished lip and a CF hood will look sweet. :cool:

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Exar-Kun
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the q45 brakes are a bit smaller diam. rotor and use 2 piston calipers, the 300zx has a larger rotor and 4 piston calipers.-chet

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but i think the q45's pistons are much bigger than the z's so they compare in performance.

by the way, how much would you guys pay for salvage z32 front calipers (pair)? I can get them for stupid cheap around town, and am thinking it'd be a good business.

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Q45tech wrote:Just remember a single stop from 60 mph won't heat the stock rotors up by more than 100-150F even in summer and the pads don't begin to lose friction [increased pedal effort] until 500-600F.
Stock brakes don't last long... but for daily driving they require effort to fade.

This is using a non-synthetic Dot 4 brake fluid and Axxis Ultimate pads, with a correct bedding procedure.

The pads and new fluid made a HUGE difference from stock worn pads and old DOT 3 fluid that would boil over, obviously, but after driving a car just as hard with the Z brakes... I think it's a worthwhile investment for someone that drives there car hard.

Got smoking rotors? :D

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93RPS13
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MarkEmark wrote:Juan--

If you're used to 235 tires in 17" size and haven't driven the car with anything substantially then you won't think they make a big difference. But my stock wheels/tires were 35 pounds; the 5zigen 17" wheel/tire combo was 46 pounds. That's ~45 pounds of increased rotating mass that I put on, and I immediately felt the difference. And at 9 psi, my car is by no means slow. But to each their own.

What exactly are the differences between the q45 and the 300zx calipers/rotors? IIRC i thought the rotors were the same size--but are the q45 4 piston?

Does anyone know if wilwood makes 4 piston calipers that use the OEM size rotor? I know they make them for hondas...

Snarlynx--the primary reason i got them was to save weight--not money. I paid quite a bit for them actually ($700 shipped), but compared to other work three piece wheels in the same excellent condition, I think I got a good deal. Plus, they were EXACTLY what i had been looking for for months. I was thinking about getting the spokes powdercoated too--but to what color? Black? Emerald green? I'm not so sure if it'd look good. My dad has 3 piece revolution modular wheels with a polished lip on his austin healey; powdercoated yellow spokes to match the rest of his yellow car. Looks good on his car anyway.

Marc


What size are your rims like 15x?? also what offset are they so that they clear the Z32 brakes, are the Z32 brakes 26mm or 30mm? Also where did you purchase them? Sorry for all the questions, i'm getting a S13 so my car will not like anything like yours

Exar-Kun- i have a question do you think that the FD rims or late model G20 rim will fit over q45 brake upgrade?

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Exar-Kun
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well, the FD rims probably would, but they're the wrong hub bore and bolt pattern I believe(not positive), and the alte model G20 rims I wouldnt chance, their offset is heavy positive and is very liable to hit the outer edge of the caliper.-chet

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damn thanks for the super fast responds, yea the lug pattern is 5x114.3, hub bore that is the center right? if it is, is it possible to drill it to the right hub bore, also how big are the nissan hub bore? Thanks

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fds will fit, they are the same pattern and bore, but you'll probably need spacers (they are thinner than the z32s)

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fds will fit, they are the same pattern and bore, but you'll probably need spacers (they are thinner than the z32s)

16 X 8 5X114.3 50 16 67.1 Silver

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do you know how much??

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Exar-Kun
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20mm spacer on an s14 will get them to fit. I coulda swore the hub bore was too small for a nissan....

*shrug*

either way, thats far to big of a spacer to run for my liking.-chet(I had a set of FD rims, and we decided you couldnt use them safely on a 240 a while back)

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hmm...by bore you mean that hole in the middle?

'cuz I don't know about that..

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The 1990-1996 Q and the Z had the same diameter rotor only the Z had 2mm thicker rotor..........which was primarily extra air space not extra metal thickness.

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N/a Z rotors correct?

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Jookmasta
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do yall know if u swap all four calipers from the z32, if the ebrake is still functional? or did that problem get solved?

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The 300Z uses a different E-Brake setup, I haven't seen anyone get around it yet.

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you can re-route the cable, it uses a internal drum brake on the inside of the rotor "hat" on the rear (rear left I think..)

that or get a new cable made-chet


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