brake pads, need some good ones

[s13gebala]

anyways i need brake pads, any suggestions on good brake pads for price?

will use them for street/track.

i have z32's in front and 240sx in back.

[BrianHarte]

May I suggest to you some ENDLESS pads? Just get the basic ones.

[s13gebala]

is there any other brands/? that are good

[TerminalVelocity]

I've heard a lot about the hawk hps and hp+ (i think). They seem to be popular with track goers with the hps pads being more more street oriented.

[ss82480]

I have the same setup as you with z32 calipers in front and I have the Project Mu B-force pads, they are good and surprisingly last pretty long.

[574-240sx]

Regular Generic premium pads have been fine with me just replace them before they run out of material and run into the metal backing plates of the pads and turn your rotors.

[SmithSR]

I have the same setup as you with z32 calipers in front and I have the Project Mu B-force pads, they are good and surprisingly last pretty long.

+1 Good product, worked as intended, good service life.

[IanS]

I have experience with both Hawk HPS, and HP Plus pads. Both worked well, though, the HP pluses needed a little more heat than I liked for street driving. For the price they are a great set of pads, and they took a hell of a lot of abuse.

If you are changing pads, I would look into upgrading fluid as well. One of the most common causes of brake fade is cruddy fluid. I would suggest DOT 5.1 fluid, you get the high boiling point of a DOT 5 fluid, without the problems of silicone.

[s13gebala]

mhm, i dident get into brake fluid yet, theres air in system already since its a shell and my rear caliper gave up and rusted so i had to get a new one

[nismofly]

my friends car with hp+ didnt stop as well in routine street driving as i wouldve liked, and he said he probably wouldnt be getting another set

another fairly cheap option would be axxis ultimates

[IanS]

my friends car with hp+ didnt stop as well in routine street driving as i wouldve liked, and he said he probably wouldnt be getting another set

I felt the same way about the HP+. It took more heat than I would normally create during street driving to make them stop well. They were great on the track. Tell him to try the HPS instead.

[nismofly]

ill get ultimates before i get HPS

[crackler]

I had the HPS on my 240 and didn't care for them at all. My Carbotech XP-9's stopped better cold then the HPS did, and the HPS where street pads, and the XP-9's where track pads.

I would check out carbotech's. They are expensive, but are well worth the extra money imho.

BTW, the XP-9's where Very loud, dusted A LOT, but they STOPPED! A little more than some people that drove my car liked. They where kind of hard to modulate at autoX speeds, but I was used to them. Great intiall tourque.

5.1 Fluid? Really? I thought I saw some no-no's on running 5.1. I will recheck. EDIT: just check, it was the price on 5.1 that was what I was thinking of.

[94_240sx]

I have the same setup as you with z32 calipers in front and I have the Project Mu B-force pads, they are good and surprisingly last pretty long.

+2 Just ordered a set myself. I did some search on pads before and looked like B-Force is the best for my car.

I need to replace fluid too. So go with DOT 5.1? Cool, thanks.

[nismofly]

nah i wouldnt say that

the best brake fluids are all DOT 4 and everyone still recommends DOT 4, so i say DOT 4 too

[ss82480]

Yeah I use DOT 4, not a real need for much more.

[crackler]

I use DOT4 as well.

Yeah I use DOT 4, not a real need for much more.

[nismofly]

Yeah I use DOT 4, not a real need for much more.

there isnt "much more" DOT 4 is the best, thats why i dont get wtf DOT 5 and 5.1 and whatnot are, theyre like a replacement for DOT 3, but they still suck

[crackler]

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_i...shtml

About 2/3rds of the page down.

Quote »Hey – you didn't mention DOT 5.1 fluids!

Historically, DOT 5-level performance (specifically boiling points and viscosity) could only be achieved with silicone-based fluids. However, modern compounding has created glycol ether-based fluids which now meet DOT 5 bogeys in these key areas. Consequently, the DOT 5.1 moniker was created to differentiate between these two very different chemistries which both meet DOT 5 performance requirements.

In so many words, DOT 5.1 fluids are simply DOT 4-type fluids which meet DOT 5 performance requirements. Because of this, they typically can be mixed with DOT 3 or DOT 4 fluids without concern. In some circles, they are even referred to as ‘DOT 4 Plus’ or ‘Super DOT 4’ fluids because they are more similar to a conventional DOT 4 fluid by chemistry than they are to a conventional DOT 5 fluid. In fact, DOT 5.1 is essentially comprised of Borate Esters.

While it may not be obvious, the big advantage of the DOT 5.1 fluids is that they contain all of the nifty water-absorbing characteristics of the DOT 3 and DOT 4 fluids while simultaneously providing for very high boiling points and relatively stable viscosity over a wide range of temperatures. The best of all worlds, you could say. The table below sums it up quite nicely. PROPERTY DOT 4 DOT 5 DOT 5.1Dry BP (F)@ 0.0% H2O 446 509 509Wet BP (F)@ 3.7% H2O 311 356 356 [/quote]

[nismofly]

interesting that stuff ive read says DOT 5 and DOT 5.1 are similar and that all racing brake fluid is still DOT 4, not 5 in any way

it sounds like all these fluids are 5.1, or the 4 plus it says there or whatever...weird

anyway, yeah, whatever DOT level theyre called just run like ATE or rbf600, or castrol srf if youve got money to burn

[crackler]

Definitely not DOT 5. I think it is used in older cars. At least I think I remember reading that some where. Any thing with "5" scares me, even if it has a .1 after it.

I thought RBF was expensive, until I saw the price for SRF.

[94_240sx]

I've searched more on brake fluid. It looks like Valvoline SynPower DOT 4 is what I need.

[crackler]

I think that is what I have currently in the Yata'.

[s13gebala]

well im thinging project b force in front for z32's, and project d1 spec in rears, since it will be drifted, street. but idk if i should get b force s all around or go with the combo

[ss82480]

I'm no brake expert either but just to give you an idea about these b-force pads, I can be driving my car without having braked any and lock up my tires with ease because they grab so good.

[IanS]

interesting that stuff ive read says DOT 5 and DOT 5.1 are similar and that all racing brake fluid is still DOT 4, not 5 in any way

it sounds like all these fluids are 5.1, or the 4 plus it says there or whatever...weird

anyway, yeah, whatever DOT level theyre called just run like ATE or rbf600, or castrol srf if youve got money to burn

Dot 5 is silicone based, and will not mix with normal glycol based brake fluid. It also does not react well with the seals in conventional braking systems.

I personally run Motul 5.1, its only slightly more expensive if you buy online, and I want the highest boiling point possible.

[s13gebala]

i ended up going with hawk hp plus in front, and d1 spec pmu in back.

i like this set up, the back brakes look nice since you can see the green pad

[94_240sx]

i ended up going with hawk hp plus in front, and d1 spec pmu in back.

i like this set up, the back brakes look nice since you can see the green pad

Last week, I picked up some green pads too. B-Force all the way around. Why does it say "Only for the United States"???

[s13gebala]

:\ thats weird mine just have japanese writing

[94_240sx]

:\ thats weird mine just have japanese writing

Oh! They are for z32 calipers front & back.