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stebo0728 wrote:I'll just set this down quietly and walk away, whistling....

http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/26/why- ... -is-toast/
You may very well be whistling for the next four years

http://www.policymic.com/articles/17514 ... ing/260427


"In the race to 270 electoral votes, Obama still leads in Pennsylvania (20 Electoral votes), Michigan (16 EV), Ohio (18 EV), WI (10 EV) and IA (6 EV). Most polling sites have Obama securing 201 electoral votes, winning these five battleground states, totaling 70 electoral votes, would give Obama the necessary electoral votes to win re-election. The Obama campaign is aggressively trying to get out the vote in the urban centers in these five states. The campaign is convinced that there are more Democrats who may be sitting on the sidelines than there are Independents and undecided voters that might choose Romney. Additionally, some feel that Gary Johnson will have a Ross Perot/Ralph Nader impact on Romney in states like Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado, Florida and Nevada. If Obama can get voter turnout to approach 2008 levels in cities like Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Lansing, Milwaukee, Madison, Cleveland, Cincinnati and Des Moines then he has a better than average chance of winning these states."

"Professional gamblers are laying odds on Obama winning the election and odds makers are right more often than the polls."

And if Obama pulls it off we can look forward to Hillary in 2016 :chuckle:

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Thats just it. The turnout for Obama is low. All the folks who were disillusioned by the 2008 rockstar aren't anymore. They aren't happy with Romney either, they'll just stay home.

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stebo0728 wrote:Thats just it. The turnout for Obama is low. All the folks who were disillusioned by the 2008 rockstar aren't anymore. They aren't happy with Romney either, they'll just stay home.
Many Obama supporters like myself have already voted. A much higher percentage than GOP voters
In fact I called my local board of elections today to make sure my ballot was received.

It was :yesnod

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I hope nothing cracks this bomb shelter of certainty you've created for yourself.

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ON a side note, do you live anywhere that might get the brunt of this superstorm? Batten down the hatches!

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I think this Bengazi debacle is going to put the possibility of Obama losing into sight. Romney might beat him. It's really just a curiosity to me at any rate, both are capable of digging this country deeper so it really doesn't matter which wins. Arsenic or cyanide, either will kill even if they taste different.

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Yeah, Sandy is going to ruin my Halloween for the kids. But, at least Dominion Power has pulled in extra people to combat it, so we should be able to vote on time come Nov 6.

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I'm not worried about voting, I mean I hope you get to, but it'll be passed over by then. I just hope you guys don't sustain any damage.

<cuddly moment>I may disagree, and debate strongly with you folks, but I consider you all friends!</cuddly moment>

Maybe they wont price gouge you guys too bad on the bottled water and bagged ice.

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Marenta wrote:Yeah, Sandy is going to ruin my Halloween for the kids. But, at least Dominion Power has pulled in extra people to combat it, so we should be able to vote on time come Nov 6.
Last Halloween in New Jersey

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This year, Who knows?

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Marenta wrote:Yeah, Sandy is going to ruin my Halloween for the kids. But, at least Dominion Power has pulled in extra people to combat it, so we should be able to vote on time come Nov 6.
Same here...total suckage. I'm at sea level here in Dover, we're bailing out and going to my parents place north of Pittsburgh...unfortunately the damn storm follows me right through. So the weather will suck regardless.
themadscientist wrote:I think this Bengazi debacle is going to put the possibility of Obama losing into sight. Romney might beat him. It's really just a curiosity to me at any rate, both are capable of digging this country deeper so it really doesn't matter which wins. Arsenic or cyanide, either will kill even if they taste different.
If Benghazi doesn't play a huge roll in this election we're in serious trouble. By trouble I don't mean the election either, I mean our Gov is being allowed to make grievous errors and our Operators world wide are paying the price. I'm not dropping this totally on Obama, but it was his choice to cover it up. Anyone that says different at this point is being willfully naive. We had resources available, we had help called out for, we said no, no and no again. That's fvcked up on every level. If anyone comes in here and says "well we didn't have good enough intel" so help me :mad: ...We had live video feeds and live intel coming directly from SEALs and CIA. The pinnacle of the intel community. Yet we did nothing and condemned them to death. If it weren't for a small group of heroes that disobeyed orders to stand down we'd have a lot more deaths to add on to the total.

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It will definitely impact Obama. Americans are frequently dumb f***s with a short attention span, but not that short. We are close enough to election day for 60% of those that are currently aware and upset to still be. Give it another month and a new season of TV shows will be out and the zombie trance will resume. I'm not sure where this impression that government gives a s*** what happens to our military people comes from. They have been convenient and easily forgotten cannon fodder for a very, very long time. If your guy wins nothing will change. He is chomping at the bit to start George Bush's fourth term, but he has to beat George Bush the third first. This Benghazi thing might just do it.

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If Bush got re elected with 9/11 and then a war in Iraq that found no WMDS, Obama should still get elected with a small attack on an embassy.

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If one bad thing is allowed to be overlooked we should continue to overlook them because it's only fair? Really? If it happens it'll show how correct Mike is in his views of America.

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My faith in humanity is optimistic, but I'm a realist. Status Quo, here we go!

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You'll have to just forgive me if I think this Bengazi debacle is a bit more damning than a payload of weapons being moved before we got to them. Now we're finding out that the consulate was DENIED assistance DURING the attack? No, this mess has spun out to a point that its no longer forgivable. What Clinton said during the campaign, about Obama not being able to handle that 3 AM phone call, she was dead spot on, but funny, who knew she'd be unable to handle it too. I said from day 1 on this Libya thing, that it would be his undoing. Im increasingly believing I was right.

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It might taint her chances at being President do since this happened on her watch. She bought herself a ticket on a shiny new cruise ship and it just hit an iceberg, blub blub blub...

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Oh, by the way, Mr. President, for your actions that reduced the number of antagonist casualties we would like to give you another one of those peace prize thingies. Get em, trade em, collect them all!

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stebo0728 wrote:You'll have to just forgive me if I think this Bengazi debacle is a bit more damning than a payload of weapons being moved before we got to them. Now we're finding out that the consulate was DENIED assistance DURING the attack? No, this mess has spun out to a point that its no longer forgivable. What Clinton said during the campaign, about Obama not being able to handle that 3 AM phone call, she was dead spot on, but funny, who knew she'd be unable to handle it too. I said from day 1 on this Libya thing, that it would be his undoing. Im increasingly believing I was right.
Bit more damning? For who?

Have you any sympathy for the thousands of Iraqis's (sp) who died because of us?

Who's to say that adding any more fire to the attack would of improved things? It's a huge world, there is no way to know every detail of everything.

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There appears to be a correlation of outrage to proximity and geosocioethnic similarity.

I think I just made up a new word. :mike

But I digress, gentlemen, your mics are hot, the stage is yours, drop some ill rhymes! :rotflmao

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