Best koni/GC setup for $700-$900?

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I'm looking for a good strut spring combo preferably koni/gc but will listen to all suggestions. I have about $800 to spend but don't want to spend too much more. I daily drive the car but want to do some autocross and a little drifting. I'm not worried about going very low I want to stay at a decent height but want some adjustability as well...any suggestions? Thanks. Car is an s13 btw..


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save up $3-400 more for some decent coilovers

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Hoffman5982 wrote:save up $3-400 more for some decent coilovers
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Hoffman5982 wrote:save up $3-400 more for some decent coilovers

Ok, lets not make this a "which one should I get thread". I know what I want and if I was going to buy some 'decen't coilovers' I would have to save about 2 to 3k more than what I have so thats going to wait. Im not interested in Tein, JIC, or any of those brands. If you listen to the more experienced people, the ones that actually know what they are talking about, a good spring strut combo would eat your all in one coilover for breakfeast! So if anyone wants to point me in the right direction on a setup it's much appreciated.

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My daily has the agx/sportline springs. it has adjustable dampening so I can have them soft up front and a little stiffer in the rear. good for every day and not as hard as coilovers for better or for worse. I think its a good compromise and still get 2" drop.

So you could compare different shocks and springs to find a good amount of drop and make sure you wont blow out the struts at that height.

Or save for coils.

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PBM

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Ilvemynissan wrote:
Hoffman5982 wrote:save up $3-400 more for some decent coilovers

Ok, lets not make this a "which one should I get thread". I know what I want and if I was going to buy some 'decen't coilovers' I would have to save about 2 to 3k more than what I have so thats going to wait. Im not interested in Tein, JIC, or any of those brands. If you listen to the more experienced people, the ones that actually know what they are talking about, a good spring strut combo would eat your all in one coilover for breakfeast! So if anyone wants to point me in the right direction on a setup it's much appreciated.

wow, no reason to be a fu**ing di**! I had struts and springs, They were fine. Now i have stance lx+'s and they are 100x better. If you wangt to go to the track or be a super tyte drifter, a coilover setup is a better option. I was just trying to help you out so you didnt spend all of that money on the struts/springs and then realize you should have gotten coilovers. you said you wanted adjustability. Springs/struts will only be able to have adjustable dampers, that's it. And decent coilovers cost nowhere near $3k. I don't know what you've been smoking but 3-400 more than what you have will get you 'decent coilovers'. If YOU listened to the "more experienced people" you wouldn't be in here asking one of the most asked questions like a lazy prick who doesn't know how to use the search button. So good day sir

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Ilvemynissan wrote:I'm looking for a good strut spring combo preferably koni/gc but will listen to all suggestions.
I really don't understand what you're asking for here. Koni yellows with gc springs is the best strut/spring set up you can buy. Everything else is inferior. Just do that. They're have nicer ride quality than most $800-$1000 coilovers, but I would trade some of that ride quality for the additional features that coilovers provide, to be honest.

I have KYB AGX's with Tein S-Tech springs. They'll do what you're asking for, but the ride quality is much firmer that stock, similar to some coilovers, but you get none of the drop. I mean, the drop from S-Tech's (and most other springs) is almost imperceptible. For the same price or just a little more you could get coilvers that do alot more.

If you're gonna blow your money on a spring/strut setup, make sure, first of all, that you look at lots of cars with coilovers. Then look at your car and decide if you are gonna be ok with always having about 3+ finger widths of wheel gap.

I should also add that if you're only spending about $800 on your Koni/Ground Control set up, it ain't gonna be all that impressive to notice. Really, you need to spend about $2000+ on it to out perform most off the shelf coilovers. I think the convience of buying off the shelf coilovers, simply installing them and having them set up properly beats nickel and diming and hunting around for all the pieces you are gonna need for your Koni set up and assembling all of it on top of installing it and getting it set up right.

To be real: times have changed, man. Strut/Spring really isn't the best entry level mod anymore. Entry level coilovers have made them outdated.

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simmode1 wrote:
Ilvemynissan wrote:I'm looking for a good strut spring combo preferably koni/gc but will listen to all suggestions.
If you're gonna blow your money on a spring/strut setup, make sure, first of all, that you look at lots of cars with coilovers. Then look at your car and decide if you are gonna be ok with always having about 3+ finger widths of wheel gap.

To be real: times have changed, man. Strut/Spring really isn't the best entry level mod anymore. Entry level coilovers have made them outdated.
+1 i did the same thing bought megan springs and kyb struts (poor combo btw), after like a 3-4 month i got sick of them, it felt like i was rocking stock height compared to people on coils. i even contemplated cutting my springs :facepalm: i ended us just getting a good deal on megan tracks from frsport like 800 to my door, i love them. its really something to think out, unless you got tons of money go for it i just wish i didnt waste it

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Yah I figured I'd have to spend about 2-2.5k for it to be a good koni setup. I guess i'll just have to save up and do that. I just don't want to waste money on cheap coils and have them be blown in a year or so, plus they're not consistant throughout the day. Thanks for the imput guys!

Hoffman: I didn't mean any disrespect so calm down a lil bit...( :

I know you can only adjust the dampening I just wanted to know which I could get the most with I should have been more clear.

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But your going to have to replace those coils when they blow. And that doesn't take very long at all. If you blow your koni's they replace them for life, any coilover companies do that??

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megan offers a 1 year manu warranty and than if you need struts after that they sell the whole threaded section with strut for 100 a piece iirc so 400 for new struts all around isnt that bad, but good point i dont know how long my 20 year old car will last haha go with what works for you that was just my opinion

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If you blow your coils within a year, it's probably because they are really check(ie ebay $600 coils) or you don't know how to drive and avoid potholes and whatnot

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^^^For realz. It's been YEARS since I've heard of anybody blowing a decent set of entry level coils in under a year. Megan is probably the lowest quality entry level coilover you should be looking at and even those are pretty durable. Step up your game to something like Stance or PBM and you're set.

And even if they blow, it's usually a really simple process to have them replaced or rebuilt.

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i personally would pick megan tracks over tein basics, isis and mdu emusa from what i understand the tein basics dont come with camber plates and dont offer a wide range of height adjustment, i woulndt go as far to say megans are the lowest quality, alota people have them now and they have given me great customer support

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shalezzz wrote: i woulndt go as far to say megans are the lowest quality, alota people have them now and they have given me great customer support
I'm not saying that Megan has the lowest quality coilover out there. I'm saying that I wouldn't look at anything that is lower quality than Megan. I think Megan's should be the first coilover that you consider when you're on a tight budget. Then you can move up to Stance, PBM, Apex'i, Tein, Fortune Auto, etc... In that order. These are the only entry level coilovers that I'd consider. Stuff like Isis, K-Sport, Godspeed? :tisk: :nono:

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What's wrong with godspeed? Aren't Megan, and similar brands all made in China anyways.. So what's the difference? Plus they give you a 1 year warranty.
Let me know if anyone's had SELF EXPERIENCE with these because I might go get em rather than springs.
Now i know people are gonna say this because they love too, "go buy a pair of 'decent' used coilovers for the same price as megans" No, I am not going to go buy USED Tein or stance coilovers for a few bucks cheaper, because I'd rather use stock springs than used coilovers that some douche ripped on for a year.. ya kidding me..

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skyline084 wrote:What's wrong with godspeed? Aren't Megan, and similar brands all made in China anyways.. So what's the difference? Plus they give you a 1 year warranty.
I didn't say anything was wrong with Godspeed. They've been proven to work fine. I just said that I wouldn't get them. Why? Because they don't go very low and you'll still hav wheel gap with them. For not much more, Megans could be had with a better reputation and greater lowering options.

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Okay, good stuff. I'm not really worried about height adjustment because I am only looking to lower it an inch or two. Clean up the look. I was reading a review on these on the that 240sxforum and a kid said he blew the damper on his front side, but than also said he drifted into a big crack in the road haha
Just viewing my options because I'm not gonna be drifting this thing everyday, but rather go with some coilovers over some springs.

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There is a Godspeed coilover review around here somewhere if you search for it. But if you're on looking for an inch or two, go with RS*R springs. That's probably the lowest going spring set up at about 2 inches.

But I wouldn't be surprised at all if this kind of drop only satisfies you for a few months.

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I can't really have a drop like that around here where I live (Jersey) This is my daily driver, and i don't want my exhaust bracket or something getting ripped off on a manhole cover.
As far as springs go, do they feel stiff enough for drifting?

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Not sure. I have S-Techs. They ride firm, but the drop is laughable. This may help you:
agx-rsr-springs-vs-coilovers-t102907.html

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bought my car with tokico D-spec/tein s-tech. ride is nice and adjustable on the d-specs tho like sim said its only a little lower than stock in my oppinion.

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Buy some stance gr+ coilovers. End of story.

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^ Shut up.

OP, talk to Razi on here. He had lowering springs and some type of aftermarket shock.

I really don't think you can go wrong with a decent brand, just get a spring rate you will like.

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Caveit77777 wrote:Buy some stance gr+ coilovers. End of story.
I have em, and plan on upgrading to koni's later. Chew on that.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:^ Shut up.

OP, talk to Razi on here. He had lowering springs and some type of aftermarket shock.

I really don't think you can go wrong with a decent brand, just get a spring rate you will like.
Lol why do I have to shutup but none of the other people that have all been suggesting coilovers don't?

Offtopic but enjoy your E34. I sold my 540 for the 240 it was fun but mine was an electrical mess plus it was an auto :/ still fun.

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Ilvemynissan wrote:But your going to have to replace those coils when they blow. And that doesn't take very long at all. If you blow your koni's they replace them for life, any coilover companies do that??
Yep, KW has a lifetime warranty on their coilovers. One of the very, very few coilovers I would actually buy. Not sure why they're not very popular in the 240 world.

Lots of misinformation in this thread. Koni/GC will outperform just about anything listed. Everyone has different ideas of what a good suspension is though, everyone has different goals for their car.

If you're after performance and looking for a GOOD custom setup then look no further: http://nissanroadracing.com/showthread.php?t=1453

Of course that's not a cheap setup like you're looking for. If you want cheap, I'd definitely do the Koni yellow/GC.


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