no. the genesis beats the coupe as a DRIFT CAR. For ride comfort, looks, interior quality, ease of use, safety, winterability autocross, autoslalom, straight line acceleration, drag racing, brand, quality the altima totally pwns the genesis coupe. infact the A/C coupe is one of the most practical coupes in the world since it can seat 5 people (I did one 155 mile road trip with 5 people that lasted two hours and everyone was ok. a little cramped but ok lol). and the VQ. the VQ's limitless torque is enough to warrant supremacy of the whole price segment.chow wrote:The genesis easily beats out the coupe when it comes to aftermarket parts and modification possibilites. It also is sportier and cheaper.
However we have VQ, nuff said.
Is it just a canadian thing for there to be a price difference here? I got the CVT for sitting in rush hour traffic every day ( even though I still sort of regret it) and it was the same price for me to get either the CVT or 6MT.mcheddadi wrote:you also skip the extra grand required to downgrade to CVT so thats a definitive hot deal there.
i didnt think this was a genesis thread. . . but thats the best breakdown i've seen so far comparing the 2 lolmcheddadi wrote:
no. the genesis beats the coupe as a DRIFT CAR. For ride comfort, looks, interior quality, ease of use, safety, winterability autocross, autoslalom, straight line acceleration, drag racing, brand, quality the altima totally pwns the genesis coupe. infact the A/C coupe is one of the most practical coupes in the world since it can seat 5 people (I did one 155 mile road trip with 5 people that lasted two hours and everyone was ok. a little cramped but ok lol). and the VQ. the VQ's limitless torque is enough to warrant supremacy of the whole price segment.
mmmmkay i feel better nowDAAN. wrote:Rob, no no. The price of the 2 vehicles are very different. In Canada the price of the Genesis is around the one of the RX8. Altimas are fortunately way cheaper for A/Cs lovers : )
rx8 is ALL about handling and ride, feel, and practicality. NOT straight line acceleration.That, everyone knows it. The fact you even mention that it has no balls and that you need to rev it to 9000rpm just proves you don't understand the rx8. On a track it holds its place with the 350z, audi s4, volvos60R , subaru wrx sti and evos. The handling is just that good. Reeving it to 9000RPM is the point of the engine. you have to shift less and you can keep a way higher speed during cornering. and when you are done you can go back home with 4 FULL size adults being comfortable.spockrock wrote:I looked at the rx8 before I bought my coupe it has no balls, and the only power you get out of it is at 9000RPM.
I don't know where you got that info, but I'm pretty sure its about the genesis SEDAN and not the coupe. Unless you got some info from hyundai.com I wouldn't trust cheapo internet sites that misquote everyone .DAAN. wrote:Luxury wise, Genesis has a foot and an arm on top of ours. Although I started appreciating our A/Cs a bit more recently, luxury wise, we're sitting at T. Camry level.
Genesis is at Mercedes E class/Infiniti 37 level. All specs have not been released yet, but it might even have heating steering wheel + chilled seats + trip adjustable projector.
I couldnt agree with you more!mrodrig2 wrote:IMO, this whole thread is kind of bunk. You are stating that the 3.5 is a good model not because of its own qualities but because of the aftermarket parts you can add to it. Makes no sense. Since the 2.5/3.5/CVT/MT share a lot of aftermarket parts you are invalidating your own assessment. Even disregarding that, you are using your own needs/desires as the baseline for what makes up "the best model." Not everyone bought their particular coupe model for the same reason as you.
I think mehdi was talking more about track racing vs. a drag race. The rx8 is underpowered but its handling helps it run with the more powerful cars.mrodrig2 wrote:the RX8 doesn't come close to holding its own against. Evo and STI come in with mid-5 sec 0-60 compared to RX8 with 7 sec 0-60.
Low torque + need to rev high for power still make the RX8 a less than stellar contender on the track compared to those other cars. It already has the disadvantage on the straights but then it gets double disadvantage because it can't accelerate out of the turns as well.dldjros69 wrote:I think mehdi was talking more about track racing vs. a drag race. The rx8 is underpowered but its handling helps it run with the more powerful cars.
not comparing on cost. ever.mrodrig2 wrote:Man you make some weird comparisons. Those cars you mentioned are barely comparable on cost, use, speed, handling, weight, etc. S4 and the Volvo are hardly track cars. And the others, the RX8 doesn't come close to holding its own against. Evo and STI come in with mid-5 sec 0-60 compared to RX8 with 7 sec 0-60. As far as practicality: 1) those rotaries have a horrible maintenance reputation and it continues to plague the modern RX8; 2) poor gas mileage.
like seriously, this whole designed for speed argument just fails. the altima coupe WAS designed for speed. the altima as a concept is about sporty practicality. always was, always is. there's a freaking VQ avaible in it and it can crack 5.7sec 0-60 miles. how fast do you want?LongBeachCoupe wrote:
I couldnt agree with you more!
IMO the 2.5 is a NO-Brainer over the 3.5 (if you wanted speed why wouldnt you get a car designed for speed, not an altima?)
Everyone has their own reasons why they picked their car... My reasoning for a 2.5 was Cost, Gas, and Insurance. Sure I would TAKE a faster car if everything was held even. And I am fairly competent in driving a MT, but I just WOULDN'T want that as a daily driver, especially in my area.
But my pick, my coupe, and its ALL smiles over here baby!
That's crazy! I'll take my 3.5SE 6MT over a 2.5 any day, morning, afternoon or night, in any city, county, state, or country, anywhere, anytime! I find it to be very fast, certainly fast enough. Love the power, throat and growl of the engine, and the speed and perfomance are exceptional (for me and my money)...and with some of the aftermarket stuff thats coming out its only getting better and better...16 months after buying it I love it now more than I did when it was new...that to me is the sign of a great purchase.LongBeachCoupe wrote:IMO the 2.5 is a NO-Brainer over the 3.5 (if you wanted speed why wouldnt you get a car designed for speed, not an altima?)
But my pick, my coupe, and its ALL smiles over here baby!
I used to think that until i compared the price of say an f700bt with all options and updates, compared to the tech package . . . its like 1200 vs 3k, and the 1200 gets you a much better product and more functionality. For me thats a deal breaker, but then again, i just graduated college and money is pretty tight atm =/marlin29311 wrote:Fully loaded 3.5 CVT FTW
Sorry, but factory options, while more expensive in most regards, are just nicer than having to fit the crap you want on/in/over the OEM stuff.
My tech package was $1500RobPaulson wrote:
I used to think that until i compared the price of say an f700bt with all options and updates, compared to the tech package . . . its like 1200 vs 3k, and the 1200 gets you a much better product and more functionality. For me thats a deal breaker, but then again, i just graduated college and money is pretty tight atm =/
dude my haggle-o-meter is reading over 9000 on you!!!!!! . . .marlin29311 wrote:
My tech package was $1500
I actually kinda wish the leather was a little higher quality, but I'm not really complaining that much.
Haha, I wish I did it...it was my grandpa that got the price down though...i guess 50 years of buying cars and living in NYC makes you pretty good at that stuff lol.RobPaulson wrote:
dude my haggle-o-meter is reading over 9000 on you!!!!!! . . .
lol