Best coupe model to get.

[dldjros69]

I had no opportunity to haggle. i drove 90 miles 1.5 hours. I had been in an accident about 3 days prior. All of this they knew and could see. I had no room to haggle i think i may have gotten 6 bucks off my monthly payments.

When i go to trade this 2.5 monster in barring any unforeseen issues, i should be able to haggle my butt off. I will do the ok i will be back and walk out. Hopefully they chase.

[mrodrig2]

not comparing on cost. ever. .... there is NO other car as fast for the money. Almost every single FWD car on the road gets destroyed by it

Should I point out how you contradicted yourself here twice? First saying you aren't comparing on cost but then later on making a direct reference to performance based on value of the car. (Not everyone is Mr. Moneybags like you are apparently portraying yourself to be.) Second because you are saying you aren't comparing the cars by speed but then go ahead and do it anyway.

Quote »on a balanced track those cars are so close you'd be surprised....they all have their advantages and disadvantages that makes them better and worst in all parts of a balanced track.

The rx8 can maintain a higher speed than most during cornering so it doesn't matter if it can't accelerate as well on exits, but it does get left behind on the straights. [/quote]First off, wth is a "balanced track." Have you even autocrossed or tracked your car? The factor that makes a poor car place well is a good driver not necessarily the track or the car itself. Secondly you acknowledge that each car has advantages and disadvantages but then immediately afterwards say the disadvantages don't matter for the RX8. Based on what? Apparently based on your vision of these cars as "Godly" cars.

Quote »....but the altima is anything but normal. it's fast, way fast...[/quote]This is just an obsessive statement. The Altima is a great car but it is definitely not a list topper for performance or handling. This thread isn't about open discussion on which model is better; what it seems its about is you limiting the factors that define a good model so that they fit your concept of a good model and make everyone else wrong.

[mcheddadi]

This is just an obsessive statement. The Altima is a great car but it is definitely not a list topper for performance or handling. This thread isn't about open discussion on which model is better; what it seems its about is you limiting the factors that define a good model so that they fit your concept of a good model and make everyone else wrong.

look now, my concept of a good model for a A/C enthusiast is obviously biased it seems, so please tell what you think is the better combo for our coupe for us guys or please GTFO my thread

[dldjros69]

moo moo farm

haha mehdi u seem to be takin alot of flack for your point of view...

Anybody here ever play forza 1 and 2

For the track i would rather have a car with less power and greater handling. This way you can roll in and out of the corners and keep the rpms and speed up.

The AWD sti and evo have power but then turn like crap, which is where the rx8 makes up time on the track. Long tracks the rx8 is done, but most tracks are tight and twisty.

Somebody please state a faster coupe in the 26-30k range/class. (FWD possibly)

[DAAN.]

like seriously, this whole designed for speed argument just fails. the altima coupe WAS designed for speed.

answer : Mehdi, pass the glue

there is NO other car as fast for the money. Almost every single FWD car on the road gets destroyed by it.

answer : Accord ? Malibu ? these are even in the same price range

[DAAN.]

I had my previous car up for sale after purchasing the 300C SRT8. My car sold, local dealers could not get me SRT8 although it had been paid for ... had to buy something fast.

With that being said, your silver A/C is a gorgeous car .

I have never seen anyone that hates the A/C as much as you, and still purchased it... it seems like I have never read a full sentence where you actually gave a compliment to the A/C without some time of backhand thrown in there.

[RobPaulson]

haha mehdi u seem to be takin alot of flack for your point of view...

seriously . . . wonder why the only people giving him 'flack' own a 2.5 . . .

[DAAN.]

We are having a discussion, not flak. We're owners and friends, not anything else.

You've just posted, and the first reply shows your assumption was wrong Anyway, what is YOUR opinion about the best coupe to get ?

[RobPaulson]

We are having a discussion, not flak. We're owners and friends, not anything else.

You've just posted, and the first reply shows your assumption was wrong

no. my statement holds true.

Your not spitting 'flak', as stated by you, the other 2.5's in the thread are. Therefore, the only ones 'flaking' own a 2.5.

I will argue logic with you all day sir lol

Oh and I already stated that i completely agree with mcheddadi on this. If i could do it again I would have gotten a bone stock 3.5 6MT

[dldjros69]

By flak i mean disagreement, u guys arent brow beatin him or being rude. Just disagreeing.

Haha i have a 2.5, but i know the power the the 3.5, 270 - 5.7. Amazing

Accord coupe base - 271 hp. 3436lbs. 29,000

my badd

[dldjros69]

AC 3.5 - 3241

hmm any other cars

[RobPaulson]

By flak i mean disagreement, u guys arent brow beatin him or being rude. Just disagreeing.

i knew this i'm just stupid bored @ work . . . unnecessary instigation followed . . . lol

mah bad lol

[dldjros69]

malibu - american garbage - LTZ - V6 - 169 hp - 27k no coupe

[DAAN.]

Haha i have a 2.5, but i know the power the the 3.5, 270 - 5.7. Amazing

2.5 A/C are perfect for many. I understand you have good MPG / many parts, such as the powertrain, are shared with ours. Slap some mirrors and fogs on and more or less it is a 3.5 to the untrained eye hehe

Read reviews, it's no garbage. The 90s have left a bitter taste in your mouth when it comes t o American cars.

there is NO other car as fast for the money. Almost every single FWD car on the road gets destroyed by it.

Read what was said. It is no coupe, but it is a fast vehicle; top model is classified as luxury sedan ... but, unfortunately for GM, also comes with a higher price tag than ours.
Modified by DAAN. at 2:06 PM 2/10/2009

[mrodrig2]

I dislike both cars, but the SRT4 and Cobalt SS are both cheaper, faster and FWD. And while we're at it, lets throw the ION redline in here.
Modified by mrodrig2 at 9:32 PM 2/11/2009

[headhunt3r]

Any car that's a competitor with the Altima, coupe or not, are approximately the same for quickness. Camry, Mazda 6, Malibu. The difference between these cars are almost so small that 95% of owners wouldn't notice the difference.

The "best coupe model to get" is the one that best fits the buyer's lifestyle. This is obvious for the transmission, but it also goes for the engine. Look back 10 years ago and six cylinders were only pulling ~190 horses, and people were fine with it. I could make an argument for the fact that the 4 banger is smaller and allows for less inertia while hitting the slaloms.

It's cool you love your coupe, and so do I, but obviously there's a market for different transmissions and engines or else Nissan wouldn't bother making different trims / options. It's to suit everyone's needs!

[dldjros69]

Ok first lets behonest, i fed up big time getting the 2.5. I wish i would have put up the extra dough, but it was more like i needed a car now due to an accident. No time for research or actual thought. I want a fast car and now im screwed for at least another year.

I dont think i would roll in any american car. I found a great family and i am sticking with it.

Y isnt it a coupe???

Srt 4 is no longer in production!

Cobalt SS - 24,000 - 260hp not sure of the curb weight

nice find this may be a better coupe

but - how is the interior and will it beat the altima in the zero to 60, and on the track? Any turbo lag coming from a 2.0/2.2 not sure.

Saturn ion - not in production

[mcheddadi]

Any car that's a competitor with the Altima, coupe or not, are approximately the same for quickness. Camry, Mazda 6, Malibu. The difference between these cars are almost so small that 95% of owners wouldn't notice the difference.

The "best coupe model to get" is the one that best fits the buyer's lifestyle. This is obvious for the transmission, but it also goes for the engine. Look back 10 years ago and six cylinders were only pulling ~190 horses, and people were fine with it. I could make an argument for the fact that the 4 banger is smaller and allows for less inertia while hitting the slaloms.

It's cool you love your coupe, and so do I, but obviously there's a market for different transmissions and engines or else Nissan wouldn't bother making different trims / options. It's to suit everyone's needs!

ok just want to get a facts straight. mazda6 is NOT faster than the atlima coupe. even the mazdaspeed6 isn't (I have one)camry isn't faster also, and malibu isn't.

and what the hell are you talking about saying 95% of driver wouldn't notice? I sure know they would notice at a stop light when they get creamed.

the new cobalt ss is faster on the track but 0-60 is 5.8 and 1/4 miles is 14.0 so thats 0.2 sec faster than the altima for 1/4 miles.

the cobalt ss is one heck of a car on a track still, that there is no denying that, caranddriver recentrly did a trackreview off all the cars it could get its hand on and the cobalt thanks to its LSD and anti-turbo lag system destroyed (wrx sti, evoX lexus IF, bmw 135i, you name it!) the competition:

# 3:12.5 - 2006 Nissan 350Z Track# 3:13.0 - 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Turbocharged# 3:13.3 - 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR# 3:13.5 - 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR# 3:13.7 - 2008 BMW 135i# 3:14.0 - 2008 Lexus IS F# 3:14.6 - 2008 Audi S5# 3:15.0 - 2008 Honda S2000 CR# 3:15.7 - 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP# 3:16.0 - 2007 Mazda Speed 3# 3:16.3 - 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8# 3:16.6 - 2008 Lotus Elise SC# 3:17.5 - 2008 Infiniti G37 Sport# 3:18.2 - 2006 Dodge Charger SRT8# 3:19.0 - 2006 Mazda RX-8# 3:19.0 - 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI# 3:20.6 - 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged# 3:20.8 - 2008 Dodge Caliber SRT-4# 3:20.9 - 2006 Ford Mustang GT# 3:21.8 - 2008 Volkswagen R32# 3:22.9 - 2007 Mini Cooper S# 3:24.8 - 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si# 3:25.1 - 2006 Volkswagen GTI# 3:26.5 - 2006 Honda Civic Si# 3:26.6 - 2008 Volvo C30 T5 Version 2.0# 3:29.3 - 2006 Mazda MX-5

[RobPaulson]

wait . . . i dont see OUR car on that list at all mchedaddi . . . do we just suck or what? (those are lap times right?)

so . . . that means the mazda speed3 and R32 are faster than the 3.5 6MT?? (i'm especially interested in comparing the r32 and A/C?)

[mcheddadi]

no thats the cars they took to the track and it was too show everyone how capable the cobalt SS is on a track. there is no altima because they didn't take one to the track. they only took what they have in their fleet of cars.

but I'm guessing we would be arround 3:20

since we don't have that much grip on stock tires and we don't have LSD (yet! )

As a track car the altima is good but needs better wider tires , LSD, firmer dampers,springs and bigger RSB. then I can definitly keep up with the big boys. it's got a great platform and a god VQ, so the potential is there.

[DAAN.]

Based on those times, the SS destroyed cars such as GTI with a time of over 12 s slower, not those within one second of it. It just beat those.

[mcheddadi]

wait . . . i dont see OUR car on that list at all mchedaddi . . . do we just suck or what? (those are lap times right?)

so . . . that means the mazda speed3 and R32 are faster than the 3.5 6MT?? (i'm especially interested in comparing the r32 and A/C?)

I was too interested in the r32, best interior ever in its class, high end suff normally seen in the audis and great handeling with AWD, plus its got an awesome sounding 3.2 6cyl engine with lots of grunt. but the deal breaker for me was that is was only avaible with flappy paddle twin clutch and no manual.

like I really, really hate automatics with a passion and If I had to choose the EVO X in top spec MR or GSR base spec I'd skip on all the options of the MR just to have that slick shifting manual transmission in the GSR. I hate automatics that much lol.

The day driving becomes a mundane and boring stop and go experience will be a sad day for me bhahaha

[mcheddadi]

Based on those times, the SS destroyed cars such as GTI with a time of over 12 s slower, not those within one second of it. It just beat those.

1 second on a track is huge, and it's definitely destroyed because its "only a cobalt" hahaha

[RobPaulson]

ya i had to look into this myself, i always busted my buddies balls for buying a R32 because he paid out the @$$ for a VOLKSWAGON! (thats just a name brand thing for me, i HATE volkswagons lol)

i always assumed my car was faster . . . guess they are on the same exact level, edmunds rated them withing .1-.2 of each other in 0-60 and 1/4

i'll just have to get a pulley and a Ypipe and race him then i guess =P

[spockrock]

rx8 is ALL about handling and ride, feel, and practicality. NOT straight line acceleration.That, everyone knows it. The fact you even mention that it has no balls and that you need to rev it to 9000rpm just proves you don't understand the rx8. On a track it holds its place with the 350z, audi s4, volvos60R , subaru wrx sti and evos. The handling is just that good. Reeving it to 9000RPM is the point of the engine. you have to shift less and you can keep a way higher speed during cornering. and when you are done you can go back home with 4 FULL size adults being comfortable.

whoa a bit defensive?? Yeah first I do know its a track car and that's what its good at but my point is I am not drifting right hand turns on street roads. I am not denying the cars handling, its amazing but the point still stands, on the street most of your acceleration is straight line. If I tracked then yes, its great but on the roads, its gutless and the automatic version which prolly accounts 60% of sales is even more gutless.

[mcheddadi]

moo moo farm

[mcheddadi]

yeah the automatic rx8 version is super fail lol197 hp @ 7200 rpm(auto), 238 hp @ 8500 rpm(manual)

lol sorry for seeming so defensive lol. haha like DAAN said

We are having a discussion, not flak. We're owners and friends, not anything else.

[headhunt3r]

http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...47580

Getting creamed at a light? How often do u drag race at a light with somebody that has the same intent as you? Anyways I don't see this getting anywhere.

pc

[mcheddadi]

who's talking about altima sedan? and cvt?!

edmunds is fail, quoting it is fail and MISQUOTING IS FAILER.

here's the time RoadAndTrack got:2008 Nissan Altima 3.5SE CoupeTRANSMISSION: 6 Speed manual transmission

Zero to 60 mph: 5.7 secZero to 100 mph: 13.9 secStanding ¼-mile: 14.2 sec @ 101.2 mph

http://www.roadandtrack.com/as...t.pdf

And now here are the times a guy got on his stock coupe to verify:Stock 2008 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE Coupe 1/4 mile Drag Racing timeslip specs 0-60

1/4 Mile ET: 14.2101/4 Mile MPH: 101.2300-60 MPH: 5.710-100 MPH: 13.91

http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissa....htmlP.S.: 0-60 and 0-100 at the bottom left part of the page

[rjdmmfl1]

who's talking about altima sedan? and cvt?!

edmunds is fail, quoting it is fail and MISQUOTING IS FAILER.

here's the time RoadAndTrack got:2008 Nissan Altima 3.5SE CoupeTRANSMISSION: 6 Speed manual transmission

Zero to 60 mph: 5.7 secZero to 100 mph: 13.9 secStanding ¼-mile: 14.2 sec @ 101.2 mph

http://www.roadandtrack.com/as...t.pdf

And now here are the times a guy got on his stock coupe to verify:Stock 2008 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE Coupe 1/4 mile Drag Racing timeslip specs 0-60

1/4 Mile ET: 14.2101/4 Mile MPH: 101.2300-60 MPH: 5.710-100 MPH: 13.91

http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissa....htmlP.S.: 0-60 and 0-100 at the bottom left part of the page

I'd just like to say that I like to see discussion with differing viewpoints that don't resort to namecalling and personal attacks!!

DAAN, thanks for the compliment, my comment was in regards to a number of posts that seem as though you just aren't happy with the A/C. I now see that it was a last minute decision, and will probably be there long enough to hold you over until you get exactly what you are looking for... completely understood! nothing wrong with that!