best carwash and wax

Post by **MasterMan** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

yeah i know.. sounds like a dumb question.. but i wanna know what the best wax and car wash soap is.. i use the cheap soap and it seems like it takes alot of wax off evertime i wash my car.. i also wax my car once a month (its FL.. sun KILLS the paint) and i also use cheap wax.. im wondering if the expensive stuff (13.00$ a bottle) is worth it.. what are the brands u guys use.. and so on.. thanks

Post by **TommyyJ** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

i use meguiars hi tech wax, and then put a coat of this stuff called liquid glass..works really well...

Post by **PabloHoney** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

I use Meguiar's Gold Class wax most of the time. Every 3-4 months I like to use Meguiar's Cleaner Wax. It takes some of the crap out out of the clear coat or something. After I wipe that off, I do a Gold Class wax right after. As far as car wash to use, I just go to the self-serve car wash stalls. Takes about 2-3 bucks each time (usually twice a week). If I am gonna scrub it at home, I use the Son of a Gun car wash concentrate. Whatever you do though, don't use dish soap or something like that. It isn't good for the paint/clear coat.

Post by **UncleBen** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

i use meguiars gold class wax (about every 3 or 4 months is what i shoot for) and meguiars soap (which i'm out of, dangit). it seems like my wax doesn't stay on that long either. or it doesn't stay very slick very long if i wash it regularly. since the last time i waxed her (about a month) i haven't had to wash the whole thing except the front end from stupid bugs. i dont drive it everyday or anything, and she sits in the garage all day long covered up, so that helps out w/ staying clean. i need to repaint my car anyway, but i still want her clean all the time : ) nah the paint isn't that bad, just spots here and there. it looks like it has been repainted before, and it wasn't that good of a job at all:mad:

Post by **MasterMan** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

Meguiar's wax it is then

thanks guys

Post by **GodDrivesA240sx** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

zymiol or l however it's spelled. It rules.

Post by **doctorj240** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

Liquid wax is the best stuff I've used. Give it a couple coats then all you have to do to keep it clean is get a california car duster and wipe all the dirt off. Only problem is its expensive $18.

Post by **doctorj240** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

I mean Liquid glass. I keep messing up my posts... its been a long day.

Post by **Tai Mai Shu** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

Zaino Bro's

Post by **High Plains Drifter** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

The absolute best paint protection you can get is from a company in NJ called Zaino Brothers. Check out their site : Zainobros.com . Alot of guys in the show car circuit swear by it also. I have used it on all my cars and OMG, it makes paint look 10 layers deep. It really works great on darker colors. It does require several steps plus clay barring your car before you start, but the results are well worth it. You can't buy it in stores, but when I send for their products, I usually get it within a week (I'm in Florida).Also, it is a little pricey, but again well worth it. It comes out to be around $25.00 an application and an application is good for around 9 months.

Post by **UncleBen** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

interesting. i'll look into that. i need to clay bar my car anyway. i went to their site and i see alot of different "kits" or whatever you can buy. i haven't looked alot, but which one do you order? edit: ok i went to FAQ and i found what i was looking for i think. thanks for the site adress. this stuff interests me alot. if its as good as they say it is, then i might spring for it.

Post by **UncleBen** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

wow, i read the FAQ's and that sounds like the most complicated thing i would have ever have done. jeez. Z-this Z-that, 24hours here, 24 hours there. ahhh:eyecrazy

Post by **nametakennow** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

Meguairs all the way, my bro even uses it on his Audi, and he's the pickiest man in the world (when it comes to cars)

Post by **epic** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

What do you mean by "clay bar" your car? I was in autobody for two years back in highschool and never heard of this.

Post by **SpeeDDrifT** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

i've used meguiar's 3 step...cleaner, polish, wax 3 separate bottles. which i was really impressed with. the cleaner works well if your looking for using clay to take off water spots or oxidation. i've used the gold class also and it is very nice also.

Post by **High Plains Drifter** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

The Zaino is not really complcated after you use the stuff. If you use their polishes, the dry time is kinda long, but they have an accelerator additive which cuts the drying time to 20 minutes. The beauty of Zaino is that it goes on real easy and wipes off easy, with no wax residue at all. You can put as many coats as you want with no buildup and the more you put on the deeper the shine gets.

Clay bars remove all the microscopic dirt particles that washing doesn't remove. If you do not clay bar the car, all the dirt gets trapped underneith, reducing the reflective properties of the paint. No matter what wax or protectant you use, you should clay bar it first. It involves taking the clay bar and soapy water and rubbing it over your paint. It removes no paint, the soft bar just picks up the fine particulates.

Post by **Reklaw** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

I searched for the answer to this question for quite a while. 4 years in fact. After trying several products (most of them mentioned in this post) I came across Zaino Brothers. It is by far the best product out there. The work it takes depends on the size of your vehicle. I first applied it onto my 4-door F-150. God that took forever. As for my 240, it's a breeze.

BTW, Zaino Bro. is quickly taking over the show car industry. There will always be hard core Meguair's people out there, but that's their loss.

Post by **UncleBen** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

sounds to me like i shoud buy some zaino bro's products. i need to clay bar my car first tho. i think just doing that would help alot:peace

Post by **MasterMan** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

yeah my nebor has that clay bar.. he was gonna do it for me.. maby i can talk him into doin it soon.. i wanna see if it helps... thanks for all da replys..

Post by **Mayhem_J30** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

i stick with mequirs too.I hand wash with their 00 spf car washUse their Gold Class wax..high spfAfter touching up and detailing I use Meguiars Final Inspection with like 13 or something spf.I have noticed lately that the wax doesn't seem to stay on for more then 2 and a half weeks. Especially on the trunk, probably a lot a wind blowing on it. The Final Inspection gives good glossy finish, even better then the wax. Helps get rid of all the extra residue or something. It doubles as a great bird **** remover. I keep it with me at all times. During autumn is important to because those darn tree leaves will stain if you don't wipe it down good.I'm up for trying other things, but there's a Meguiars store about 15 minutes away from me and they've always been really nice guys. I would like to try that Zaino's stuff, but I'm not taking a weeks vacation just to wax my car.

Post by **High Plains Drifter** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

Mayhem, Ha, ha, it doesn't take that much longer with Zaino, especially if you use their accelerator, 20 minutes and a very easy wipe off. If you can spend the time, additional coats makes the shine deeper. I Zaino'ed my I-30 last March and except for an occasional application of the gloss enhancer spray, it still beads up like I just waxed it and thats after a summer of Florida sun and rain.

Post by **SRdS14** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

i use meguiars cleaner wax every 4 months, but when i wax my car usually ever 6 weeks or so, i use meguiars gold class....it works frikken wonders....bling bling...

I be's usin dem Movvaz Mutal POlish on mah Deuce Deuces...oops, my bad, i mean my exhaust and valve cover

Post by **chadster** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

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The product we make "5 star shine" (see our ad on the bottom left side) provides the best long term protection that can be applied to a car finish.

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I have had 5 Star Shine on my car for many months now and all that I do is wash my car with water and a mitt. Dirt comes off like a dry erase board. The water beads up incredibly and the paint keeps its original shine. 5 Star shine creates a great foundation and or protection to your paint so you don't have to wax if you don't want to.

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Post by **civics91** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

i use pro care stuff its pro detail stuff

Post by **twlnbro69** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

SpeeDDrifT wrote:i've used meguiar's 3 step...cleaner, polish, wax 3 separate bottles. which i was really impressed with. the cleaner works well if your looking for using clay to take off water spots or oxidation. i've used the gold class also and it is very nice also.

This stuff works wonders. My friend used it on his ranger, and it made his paint look brand new. His paint look like *** to begin with, ****load of scratches and whatnot

Chris

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

Zaino is, hand-down, the best. Period. Mayhem, I did my car in a day, from start to finish (washing, claybar, re-washing, applying, removing).

However, I've not tried chad's product, it sounds like the same technology, I'm sure it's awesome.

BTW, WAXES are NOT the best way to protect your paint. It's NOT optically clear, wears off fast, and builds up to dull your finish.

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

ok so there are three options in my eyes...1. meguiar's 3 step 2. the zaino product and the third which i was going to mention if anyone has heard of it but chad beat me to it is the3. 5 star shine

so far we have for products one and two, but anyone here used it yet? or is anyone thinking about getting it? also chad can you make it shine more or after applying the 5 start shine the last thing? i would like my car to look like glass/wet you know. it can never be shiny/clean enuff lol. let me know.thanks

Post by **180fan** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

I personally use Meguiars Gold class wash, then while the car's still wet, I use a bar to take off the embedded particles in the paint (I personally don't like the Mother's brand clay bar) that my buddy who works at a shop called Autofreak in San Francisco's Japan Town recommended. Then I use Meguiars Showcar Glaze, then follow it up with the Gold Class wax (the hi tech yellow wax wasn't as reflective) and then a bit of buffing. I don't wax unless I need it, check the water on your car after you wash it. If it beads up and runs off, you don't really need wax until the beading isnt so good anymore.

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

http://www.zainostore.com/Merc...t.htmh ... rc...t.htm

no look at pix these holy moly!!!! these pix made up my mind unless chad can top this. i mean wow. cuz i was like whoa. the only thing is doing the formula for applying this stuff on the car is insane well on the site anyways.

z-2 then z-5 used with wash that's ph balanced for her but not for him is equal to the square root of z-7 to the z-3 monomial polygon function of a standard deviation when added to the mean unlesss divided dy the mode in less than 36 hours if its exactly 3 degrees kelvin or above 60 degrees farenheit or below 70 degrees celcius.

well maybe not that but close to it. hey its late brain stops functioning jumbls tings up fil in blancs wit ouwn inf0 at this point. can someone explain in simpler jiberish???

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:12 am

also do you use an orbital polishing buffer thats it a buffer in any part of the application??? i mean is it better you do it that way or what? the resaon i am intreested in this thread is the fact that i am getting a custom paint job {{{saphirre blue like the jaguar xk8 2002 with chrome flakes in it}}} and i want it to look flawless i dont think the way my car looks is ideal to even put any wax on it. oh well i think i sholuld start a count down till it goes to the body shop.peace

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