Best Cams?

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I'm shooting for around 250-275 rwhp. To do so i'm going to get some headwork done as well as cams. Is it better to run the same duration (256 in. 256 ex,) or stagger them (256 in. 264 ex.)? What is the best combo you guys have seen or expierenced?


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You could keep stock cams for that power, or use 256/256. I wouldn't even consider 264's at that level.

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well Cuzan0 put a set of 256's in his CA and said he could barely tell the difference. I plan on 264's later...

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256 AND 264's are weeeeeak. 272's all the way!

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c-rad wrote:256 AND 264's are weeeeeak. 272's all the way!
Don't be so quick to down the 264s until you've tried them yourself. The hks 264s with the 8.5mm lift is the perfect cam for this motor when you're talking street/strip. The 272s will require extra machining and will choke-off some of your already weak low rpm power. It all depends on what you want. I have a set of regrinds in one my g/f's motor and I assure you it will out perform the 264s and the 256s and is also an awesome alternative to the 272s. Unfortunately, this grind is mine in particular and I asked for the specs specifically. So I say, select yor weapons carefully. Bigger doesn't always mean better, especially when it comes to the CA.

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boost_boy wrote: Don't be so quick to down the 264s until you've tried them yourself. The hks 264s with the 8.5mm lift is the perfect cam for this motor when you're talking street/strip. The 272s will require extra machining and will choke-off some of your already weak low rpm power. It all depends on what you want. I have a set of regrinds in one my g/f's motor and I assure you it will out perform the 264s and the 256s and is also an awesome alternative to the 272s. Unfortunately, this grind is mine in particular and I asked for the specs specifically. So I say, select yor weapons carefully. Bigger doesn't always mean better, especially when it comes to the CA.

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I was kidding... I was just referencing the lopey idle and V8 rumble they resemble...

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Well, as much "rumble" as you'll ever see from a CA anyway...

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is it true that te na cams are good for some more power? are these na cams iv heard about the same that can be found in the pulsar?

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Not really. They are so similar that it's not even worth the trouble. I don't know that you will even be able to feel any difference.

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i was thinking about getting my head done, ported & polish w/ new valves and springs. I also wanted to get new cams. Boost_Boy, i like the torquey feeling, for drift a circuit racing. 256 the best choice?

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DriftSpecial180 wrote:i was thinking about getting my head done, ported & polish w/ new valves and springs. I also wanted to get new cams. Boost_Boy, i like the torquey feeling, for drift a circuit racing. 256 the best choice?
If you can find some stainless valves, let me know where and how much.

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DriftSpecial180 wrote:i was thinking about getting my head done, ported & polish w/ new valves and springs. I also wanted to get new cams. Boost_Boy, i like the torquey feeling, for drift a circuit racing. 256 the best choice?
Go with the 256s as they'll assist you inretaining the low end power you're looking for. Be sure that you request a decent lift on them if you order directly from one of the big dog companies in Japan.

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what do you recommend as far as replacing the rods and pistons, and how much should i be lookin to spend on them also.

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nismoser2002 wrote:what do you recommend as far as replacing the rods and pistons, and how much should i be lookin to spend on them also.
Why do you want to replace them? Are the pistons worn or the rods bent? If they are not, I highly recommend getting yourself some new rings, some new rod bearings, and if you really want to be safe, get the rods re-shotpeened. There's no need to spend oodles of money on rods and pistons unless you're going for the gusto.

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I belive what Dee meant to say was...

THERE IS NO NEED FOR FORGED PISTONS AND RODS UNLESS YOU'RE SHOOTING FOR 400+ HP, WHICH NONE OF YOU PEOPLE HONESTLY ARE. HOLY HELL STOP ASKING THIS QUESTION NEWBS!

we should probably make this a sticky because no one seems to be able to SEARCH these days. Its the blinking red button in the top right corner of the page <3

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p.s. CA18DE cams are not worth bothering with. Apparently the myth originated in Europe somewhere because one of their FWD CA18DE's had a mildly hot cam in it. USDM pulsar cams are identical to your already installed DET cam. Holy crap I've typed that statement 89683924679846 times already so if anyone else asks that question again, I'm going to go nuts.

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b/c i am boostin my ca18de motor

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so.... I boosted a DE motor too. Put stock DET pistons on DE rods (identical to DET rods). I fail to see the problem. Perhaps if you had searched in the first place you wouldn't have to ask again.

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i did do some searchin and someone told me that i was better off replacin both the rods and pistons with aftermarket ones, i know where i can get the cp pistons and pauter rods combo for 1300 shipped but i didnt know if this was a good price for this combo.

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NeedCAforS13, Your right, i didn't search...i looked over all the threads in this CA forum. None had answered the question i had so i asked (which is the point of the forums). Just because you know the answers doesn't mean that we can't use the information. Besides this CA forum needs to grow. I've joined Zilvia, Club240, 240sxforums, FreshAlloy, and NissanForums to find info on the CA18. And do you know what all of them said? Go to NICO, the have a CA forum. So you guys that "own" the CA forum have quite the name to live up to (and i respect that) But It was dissappointing to see how small the CA forum was.

I'm not trying to trash this forum. Its small because the CA is a newly discovered gold mine for our cars. In a little bit of time, it will be huge.

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boost_boy wrote:Go with the 256s as they'll assist you inretaining the low end power you're looking for. Be sure that you request a decent lift on them if you order directly from one of the big dog companies in Japan.

Dee
Thanks for the input, 256* on both sides? Or 256* in with stock exhaust? Can you share secrets?

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DriftSpecial180 wrote:None had answered the question i had so i asked (which is the point of the forums).
Your question was a valid one. There haven't been too many threads on cam choices, and you seemed to know what you want as far as output and power levels. I wan't telling you to search at all... it was the kid who randomly posts "where can I get pistons and rods" in a thread about cams and headwork that pisses me off . Its not on topic to begin with, and its been thoroughly beaten to death in previous threads! I can't stand when people aren't willing to spend some time looking for the information on their own, and just want the guys who know what they're talking about to spoon feed them.

And so you know, alot of us older guys like the fact that our forum is small... we know each other on a first name basis (most of us). I for one don't like the recent jump in people coming on here, asking "how do i make 500hp for cheap" then never posting again after we tell them how to do it and how much its going to cost. There's an aweful lot of 16 year old dreamers out there... and alot of them seem to like the CA for some reason.

If you (or anyone else) are serious about learning about this motor and getting power out of it, you will fit in well here Just remember it costs money to make power...

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NeedCAforS13 wrote:
Your question was a valid one. There haven't been too many threads on cam choices, and you seemed to know what you want as far as output and power levels. I wan't telling you to search at all... it was the kid who randomly posts "where can I get pistons and rods" in a thread about cams and headwork that pisses me off . Its not on topic to begin with, and its been thoroughly beaten to death in previous threads! I can't stand when people aren't willing to spend some time looking for the information on their own, and just want the guys who know what they're talking about to spoon feed them.

And so you know, alot of us older guys like the fact that our forum is small... we know each other on a first name basis (most of us). I for one don't like the recent jump in people coming on here, asking "how do i make 500hp for cheap" then never posting again after we tell them how to do it and how much its going to cost. There's an aweful lot of 16 year old dreamers out there... and alot of them seem to like the CA for some reason.

If you (or anyone else) are serious about learning about this motor and getting power out of it, you will fit in well here Just remember it costs money to make power...

Sean
I like this guy! He's a straight-up/tell-it-like-it-is enthusiast. I couldn't have put this one any better.

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Im just running HKS 272's 8.5 mm lift.

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GoofyATX240 wrote:Im just running HKS 272's 8.5 mm lift.
GoofyATX240, can you tell a big difference??? any power loss from down low???

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DriftSpecial180 wrote:Your right, i didn't search...i looked over all the threads in this CA forum.
I just re-read this statement, and thought I'd key you into a VERY important point... you say you looked over every thread in the CA forum that you could see by listing "view all threads" on the bottom of the page right? thats an EXTREMELY small selection of the entire threads in the CA forum archives, and actually contains very little useful information. Its just the last 13 pages of threads (last 3-4 months maybe), I would say there's another 100+ pages with thousands of threads in the archives, but you can only see them by SEARCHING. Don't be such a know-it-all especially if you're clueless as to what you're talking about. We have more than 13 pages of threads in our "dissapointingly small" forum

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DriftSpecial180 wrote:NeedCAforS13, Your right, i didn't search...i looked over all the threads in this CA forum. None had answered the question i had so i asked (which is the point of the forums). Just because you know the answers doesn't mean that we can't use the information. Besides this CA forum needs to grow. I've joined Zilvia, Club240, 240sxforums, FreshAlloy, and NissanForums to find info on the CA18. And do you know what all of them said? Go to NICO, the have a CA forum. So you guys that "own" the CA forum have quite the name to live up to (and i respect that) But It was dissappointing to see how small the CA forum was.

I'm not trying to trash this forum. Its small because the CA is a newly discovered gold mine for our cars. In a little bit of time, it will be huge.
If you did a search in the archives you would have found these

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okay, its my mistake. I'm not trying to offend you guys. I was very thankful that you actually helped me instead of the basic "search you little S$*t!!". Honest mistake, when i joined i only saw 2 pages on the bottom right corner and usually there's 1-3 pages listed on all the other forums. I apologize for any rude comments or if i offended anyone in anyways, sincerest apology to NeedCAforS13...for attacking back and being immature.

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Its all good Anthony Welcome to the CA forum.

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thank you

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sean take a pill!


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