Best 240 model for drift?

Post by **WhItEdRiFt** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

I'm looking at getting a nice car to start drifting with and it is just that time that I've come to see about the 240's. Since all of you know more about them than I do, I just wanted to see which model I would be better off with. I know the engines are all the same but what about weight wise? And most importantly are they reliable and able to withstand high mileage?

Post by **Nathan** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

The Type R for CERTAIN.

Post by **navysnail** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

s13 imo, probobly just because thats what i have, lol. if you drift, your engine probobly wont last 250k, but some people on here have had theirs for 300k.

Post by **MainEvent212** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

dude, 240s understeer like crazy. go w/ an RX7 or something better!

Post by **D1SR240** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

yes, imo i would say the s13, i heard the coupe was a little stiffer than the fastback, but basically any model 240 will work fine, just practice.

~swave

Website · Post by **usdm_180sx** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

This question again???? Do a search or get a honda, celica or a scion

Post by **Spec-R** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

The s14 cause kouchi(drift king) said so.

Post by **Fenvy** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

WhItEdRiFt wrote:I'm looking at getting a nice car to start drifting with and it is just that time that I've come to see about the 240's. Since all of you know more about them than I do, I just wanted to see which model I would be better off with. I know the engines are all the same but what about weight wise? And most importantly are they reliable and able to withstand high mileage?

rice boy

**Boy thats really mature of you :rolleyes ... no slaggin newbies, consider this a warning **

- Nismo_Freak

Post by **D1SR240** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

guys he asked a freaking question, why do you all have to call him a ricer, he's entitled to do what he wants. if you don't want to answer his question cuz its been discussed then tell him to search, or give him a link, or dont' post at all, but you don't have to critisize him.

~swave

Post by **Fenvy** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

The question permits it. btw drifting is over rated, everyone wants jump on the drifting bandwagon after release of initial D in the US. I bought my 240sx 1 month ago NOT because of drifting but because of RWD, cheap LSD and stock turbo charged engine swap.

Post by **RagingPanda** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

^Word!! They're just bunch of losers that have nothing to do except waiting for a chance to flame someone. No offense but it's the truth. Any RWD car will do..you just need plenty of practice. ^_^. So get the cheapest car b/c you will be hitting tons of ****s before you get good. Have fun and be careful!

Post by **RagingPanda** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

I'm tired of people telling other people what is good or not. There is nothing wrong with drifting if you're into it. I'm pretty sure none of you are great drifter or have the skill to back it up so I don't know why you're bashing on the sport when you're not even good at it. IMO drifting is an awesome sport and it takes serious driver skills. I know people that are professional drivers that compete in SCCA touring class and people with 11s cars and they're into drifting. It's just whether you're into it or not. Just because it's popular doesn't means it's stupid...don't hate just because you can't do it well. I'm pretty sure you would like to know how to drift also. I for myself, I'm into drifting without a doubt but i'm also into mountain racing. Grip drive through the Rocky Mountain is awesome..i.if I can i wouldn't mind drifting through it but we all know I'm not Takumi and I will die on the first corner hahaha

Post by **D1SR240** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

guys i understand your point of view, and if you're not into thats cool, but don't bash on other people who are into because they are entitled to their opinion also. i'm sorry if i offended you guys. : )

and RagingPanda said any RWD will do, but you just gotta practice, and if you want a 240 to do it in, then like i said earlier any of them will do, but imo i think the s13 would be best for you because they are generally cheaper to get, unless you have wads of cash lying around everywhere

~swave

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

Loveless check your attitude towards the new members man... no need for that.

If people don't have some CONSTRUCTIVE to say then don't say it at all... no room for E-Thugs or Keyboard Kommandoes on NICO.

Post by **RagingPanda** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

yup...you sir are correct. That's why i have a 1990 240sx..hahahha. Not the best presentable car in the lot ^_^.

Post by **Bunta240** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

I dont have any experience with S13s really, but my bro has driven his S13 coupe for awhile and says that the S14 is easier to slide for him. Keichii says that S13's have heavy understeer, which youll have to learn to counter(which he does explain in his video). Im looking to start drifting my baby soon too, as soon as I feel more familiar with her.

Post by **MainEvent212** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

<EthugG...represent foo

yeah, i would honestly reccoment an FC rx7, That's the older model before the last edition..or a 240sx, S13 is cheapest but theyr'e known to plow w/ stock supsension, so you wanna dial otu that understeer issue w/ some new springs/shocks...drifting is an ugly sport, dont get it twisted lol. 2f2f has it all wrong, no one drifts their cars and gets away w/ it looking clean and painted lol. be prepared to bang your car up, do NOT expect the ladies to love the look of your drift car. trust me, my car is banged up and people rag on me ALL the time, and i only have 1 dent cuz i hardly ever drift...and by drift i mean make pretend courses in empty parking lots out of imaginary lines in my head (and the dent isnt even drift related to tell the truth, it's actually hit and run related and i never fixed it)

Post by **jdmfreak** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

Well IMO if you really are serious about drifting you should get a daily driver and use your drift car for just drifting cuz its gonna get pretty banged up. If you cant afford that then get an early 90s RWD car thats in pretty good condition and then move on from there.

Post by **Dano** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

scion xb for sure. j/k

-Dan

Post by **SilviaS14KA24DE** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

I agree with Bunta240

according to the Drift Bible, they say that the s13 has heavy understeer.

the s14 has the best balance overall. the weight shifting is neutral, making it an ideal drift car.

don't believe what i said? watch drift bible yourself.

MainEvent212, not all 240's are the same. the s13's understeer

Post by **irax** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

i would suggest getting an s13 coupe or s14, either of them AUTO i know flamers are going flame, but you will learn so much more driving the car befor you do cool stuff.. and if your serious about it, you will realize that in all drifting compitions (unless its a show compitition) that they still use race lines... so if you can get on the correct race line even with a auto how would going sideways help ?? so it will help if you learn grip first but all that stuff is if your serious... if you wanna have fun right away and brake stuff fast, get a manual (who am i to talk though, i broke my car and it had auto.. stupid tierod) anyways when you get your car, auto or manual, fix the suspension FIRST, get all the upgreads to your suspension befor you have fun and besure to upgread the brakes aswell, even if its just a better rotor or pads they will help. by doing this you wont have to re-learn how your car drives which could be dangerious if your *** gets out faster and easyer then befor..

so to recap...get a coupe s13 or s14, i suggest auto (most likely going to be cheaper and if you do a motor swap you can get the manual part put in aswell)upgread suspension befor you get sidewasydont forget the brakes even upgraded pads and rotors make a noticlbe difference.and KEEP IT ON THE TRACK unless you got 300 laying around for towing

ohh yeah and i forgot to sayYES the s13 has heavy understeer and countersteer doesnt fix it( i know this because i almost crashed one time) and it gets worse in the rain.. suspension upgreads will help and battery realoc will help as well, and even dropping the SR (lighter by 50ish pounds but makes a noticeble handleing difference) and carbonfiber everrything on the front will also shave weight off the front tires thus helping the battle with understeer.

Post by **SilviaS14KA24DE** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

no s14. easier to slide. best neutral balance with the s14. s13 has understeer like mad crazy.

Post by **irax** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

well.. getting sideways in my friends s13 with the jic magic suspension was waaaay easyer then my stock suspension, and if you get an s14 and upgrade the supension just make sure its set up correctly because you could make it a overstear car

btw its not a neutral ballance, its because the wheel base is alot larger then the s13 thats why the s14 as neutral steer..

Post by **Fenvy** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

This is not the 1st "yah, teach me how to drift" thread I have read and frankly, people need to stop that. Don't get me wrong, I think drifting is crazy but what some people seem to forget is that they need to learn how to drive before they can do anything else. It's not too long ago that I saw a mr2 try to drift on the left turn but only to hit the center divider and almost, the uncoming traffic. It's this very attitude that endanger others and make driving a sport of taboo.

Post by **WhItEdRiFt** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

Thanks for the great information from most of you. And to clerify, I do not plan to buy a car and simply drift. This is to find a daily driver while I set up my Integra for a motorswap. I want low miles on that so I am getting another car.

And I DO know how to drive, very well, but I don't go nuts on the road. I also enjoy the drives through those two lane mountain roads and sunset.

I was looking in to the RX-7, second generation to be specific. I actually really like it but the weight seems a bit much and if I did get one I would have wanted turbo. However I'll be making a lot of trips to southern California next year and I wouldn't want a turbo rotary making that drive lol. That think would like maybe 3 or 4 trips! A car that can take mileage is what I really need.

My goal is after the completion of my Integra is to start on another car. Since I already have one for grip driving I wanted to get one to try drifting. This isn't an Initial D craving I'm trying to feed nor a Fast and The Furious likeness that drives me to get a drift car it is simply that I love driving and I want to try different motorsports. Besides I wouldn't spend money on modifications for some time on this car.

So thanks for all of your input and I will look into both the S13 and S14. Check with my insurance provider and then look around for a car.

Post by **marshun** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

s13's are naturally cheaper. its just hard finding one with no rust. good luck

Post by **WhItEdRiFt** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

Is there any good site for finding the specs for each year/model? And for clarification purposes the S13 and S14 are both 240SX's? Only the S13 is...89-93? and the S14 is 94+?

Post by **irax** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

240sx from 88-94 are s13's both in hb and coupe, the 95+ are s14 95 1/2+ are obd2http://www.edmunds.com is pritty relaiable on there info

89-90 were SOHC140 hp152 tq

11:1 compression(90 may of had 8.5:1 i read some where)

91+ were DOHC155 hp160 tq

9:1 compression

95+ had different cams to deal with more weight, but 91-93 cams are an exclent parts bin upgread

all i know s14 fuel map + s13 cams = power... and if you throw in the sohc pistons.. you got crazy more then stock power..

Post by **irax** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

btw i hear the lastestgen silvia is going to be FWD...

Post by **Megaseth** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:04 pm

i saw those photochops too....

i think the only reason people bash guys who come in here saying that want to drift is that, right now its getting really big really fast. all the guys who claim they have mad drifting skills, no, they dont. there are a few, but the guys who've had their 240s for a few months and bash other people who ask about drifting are just hypocrites.i like drifting, i have a 240, do i drift? no. it seems the basic impression of people is that if you get a 240 you have to drift. its not a choice. you buy it, you drift it. now if you get the car because you actally do want to drift, thats another thing, but i bought mine because it was cheap, small, peppy, RWD, and handled better then most cars.

if you are serious, look into an S12. they seem to be well handling cars and are also RWD. you are right abou the ReXs, they're heavy. do what you want, dont listen to some of these baboons, mostly the guys with super high post counts and a rather new join date or the ones with low post counts and new join dates. anyone else is prolly good to listen too.

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