Benefits over other engines?

[mtcookson]

NA Z32 is 240mm and TT Z32 is 250mm with a stiffer pressure plate (even had a booster on the clutch master cylinder)

[perana]

yo, checked the clutch its 240 mm same as na z32.the t5 is realy simple to adapt to other motors,bcause of the round bearing retainer.so all i need is the auto bell housing from the y44.i have done this before and its no big deal.i'll try to post some pics later(i have trouble with this but will try).cheers

[Robstar]

Ahhhh, I didn't realize you were in Australia. WA made me think Washington USA.

Yea I get that quite a bit! hahaha~

I think I've finally made a final decision, going to aim for the JDM VH41DE and put VH45 internals in.

[evildky]

yo, checked the clutch its 240 mm same as na z32.the t5 is realy simple to adapt to other motors,bcause of the round bearing retainer.so all i need is the auto bell housing from the y44.i have done this before and its no big deal.i'll try to post some pics later(i have trouble with this but will try).cheers

that would assume taht the bearing retainer is the same diameter, I got a bud doing the VH swap with a GM T5, the bearing retainer is a radically different diameter and the bellhousing from the auto is too long so the imput shaft won't engage the pilot bearing, looks like he's gona have to mill the back off the auto bellshousing and weld on a plate with the correct diameter hole and bolt holes, the trick is getting the thing centered on the vh bellhousing, as well as converting to an internal type hydraulic TO bearing as there si no provision for a clutch fork in an auto bellhousing

[RichZilla]

Robstar, re: looking for an engine in Aus, be very careful of engines that sound too cheap. There are a few importers around who cut looms, leave vital parts in the car in Japan etc. I got a VG30DET years ago. Asked the importer if it had 'everything it needs to put it in and turn the key'. They said yes. Turned up the next day with a chopped wiring loom and no AFM. I won't say who it was. I couldn't complain though, it was only $1000 and I was going to put an Autronic on it anyway. The next one I got from them was $690.

SSS Automotive in Sydney does very good engines. Rarely do we have a problem with them. They have their own yard in Japan and test drive all the cars before the engines are removed. My VH45 had 107000kms on it. Cost is a bit higher than other importers, but you know what you're getting is good. Engine, auto, wiring and all electrics is about $2000. The price may come down if you don't want the auto. I think I took their last VH when I did mine, but I'd give them a call anyway. I think they get new shipments every 3 months. (02) 9896 6111.

[perana]

hi,what i did on my stroker ford was mill the bell down to the rite hight.then machined a plate with the box diameter to be welded on.to center it i use a solid shaft machined to fit snug over the back of the crank and the other side to fit the retainer.when it all centerd i pre heated it then welded and anneald it after it cooled naturaly.this was a long time ago so i used a fork and bearing setup,but today a hydrolic realese bearing makes things alot easier. dont you think we jacking this guys thread abit to much?

[Mettler]

It looks to me like some people are trying to discourage Robstar from doing his VH transplant & attempting to convince him to use an inferior engine for..... some reason?

Since a manual conversion is neither difficult nor that expensive, I don't think it's a valid reason to pimp the L series engine as a better swap than the VH when the VH is clearly echelons above the L series in every department.

Spanna Spinna from Auckland swapped a standard VH45 into his Cefiro and tuned it with a link computer.... put down 300rwhp! So never mind antiquated motors capable of handling ~300rwhp when the VH45 already does it standard with a tune, and has a significantly wider & more driveable powerband at that due to the torque.

Oh, and the L series isn't a V8, and is simply less awesome.

"VH45 tends to be most people's pick, but that's because they approach the situation with little prior knowledge, thinking "bigger is better". The extra 400cc is the ONLY thing better about the VH45, the VH41 is so much better setup and easier to fit, and produces the same power by revving a bit higher. Factory redline on the VH45 is 6900, and on the VH41 it's 7500. Funny that, because both are capable of revving to nearly 8000RPM reliably. Hypereutectic pistons, strong rods, and steel crank + highly balanced motor will let you do that."

Not only that, but I've read alot of posts by a user on another forum called unharmonix

^^ yeah that's just me posting on SDU ages ago, see my e-mail address in my profile

[Robstar]

Oh good tips Rich! I'll be sure to give those guys a call as well. When I was t Tenagah Motorsports the other day to sit down and talk about my idea, they actually had someone come in who does some imports for half cuts, he get's a few VH41's & VH45's in every now and then, but! The more sources I have to get the engine, the better.

Oh serious Mettler? Haha of course you're serious, may I just say what a fan I am of your masterpiece? I sat there replaying your youtube video of when you took the car out for a spin over and over hahahaha.

The L-28 that's in my 260z at the moment has gotta come out nonetheless, it's a heavy *** engine. Also it seems I've completely switched off from the world and their opinions about V8 vs anything not a V8, after reading on this forum and spending the past couple months badgering people with questions and realising just how good a quad cam V8 is.

I don't even know how they can justify me spending upto 7 grand on a R32 or 33 or 34! For that manner, just to drop a RB25/26, only to spend probably another 5 grand for a range of aftermarket parts, when here I am, about to spend less than 4 grand for the entire package for some a helluva lot more powerful. Just because it's a V8 right? Maybe my license plate should say "Better than six" haha~

[Mettler]

V8 > i6

Just look at BMW's new M3 for clarification of this fact. They're no slouches when it comes to making fast cars, and swapping to a V8 is an obvious step for increased performance.

[evildky]

It looks to me like some people are trying to discourage Robstar from doing his VH transplant & attempting to convince him to use an inferior engine for..... some reason?

Since a manual conversion is neither difficult nor that expensive, I don't think it's a valid reason to pimp the L series engine as a better swap than the VH when the VH is clearly echelons above the L series in every department.

Spanna Spinna from Auckland swapped a standard VH45 into his Cefiro and tuned it with a link computer.... put down 300rwhp! So never mind antiquated motors capable of handling ~300rwhp when the VH45 already does it standard with a tune, and has a significantly wider & more driveable powerband at that due to the torque.

Oh, and the L series isn't a V8, and is simply less awesome.

^^ yeah that's just me posting on SDU ages ago, see my e-mail address in my profile

No one is trying to discourage his swap. He asked about the benefits of the VH as compared to many more popular engines, and seeing as his car came with the L26 (bottom of the barrel in the L6 line of engines). It only makes since to provide him with the facts about the L6. Many younger people don't realize the true potential of the L6. As for the VH verses the L, there is no replacement for displacement, period! The more cubes you got the more potential power you can make, if the n/a L6 can make nearly 90 whp per liter then then the 4.5 should be north of 400 whp, and if you add a turbo it grows exponentially.

As for the manual conversion, expensive and difficult are reletive terms. Any Lseries engine bolts to any L series trans. Buying or building an adapter plate, finding a Z32 trans, flywheel, adding spacers, fabbing mounts and driveshaft might be cheap and easy to you but might be more challenging and expensive to others.