Bad day for the DIY'er

[VimyJ]

When I supplied my own parts, my local guys didn't want to warranty the labour either. We did reach a bit of an agreement about that since we bring both our cars and the mother in law's car there for service. They said the they would be reasonable if any work had to be redone. Whatever that means.

But, c'mon! Get it done! I want to hear all about how the performance mods you've undertaken pan out.

[Eswift]

how does one go about puting 436 gears in a J30? diamond, have you done it?

[diamondj30]

yes,nissan sport makes them.or have a shop look them up and put them in .total was about 1.500.00.

[Mayhem_J30]

http://www.courtesynissan.com sells the gears. go to their parts section and search for Ring and pinion or R&P. I believe most nissans use the same rear diff so it's almost all compatible. It's in the area of $600-$640 for the gears there. You still have to buy a different speedo to keep the odo and speedometer accurate. The # of teeth will have to do with the gears you get. I don't know what the association would be to keep it accurate. LIke Diamond said $1500 might be in the area you looking at for parts and labor. Apparently it's a job that takes some skill and time.

here's a list of the gears i found at courtesy. (btw guys, courtesy is an excellent source for VG30DE parts right now that got lifters for 2/3 off. only $10 each. good deal!)3.5453.73.94.0834.3644.1114.636

[juiceman]

I checked out courtesy nissan also for parts and noticed some of the Z parts have the same number as the J but with a suffix. The struts and shocks are half the price.

Is there a cross reference for nissan to infiniti parts?

[Mayhem_J30]

I checked out courtesy nissan also for parts and noticed some of the Z parts have the same number as the J but with a suffix. The struts and shocks are half the price.

Is there a cross reference for nissan to infiniti parts?

yes, your right about the suffix on the MOTOR PARTS ONLY. an 'I' or a 'J' or something at the end. The struts and shocks are not compatible. They share the same motor not the same platform.

[Mayhem_J30]

problem child

[Mayhem_J30]

problem child says "uncle".

[Mayhem_J30]

problem child makes way for new bar

[Eswift]

thanks for the gear info guys, im going to research it. but as long as its my daily driver im going to keep the same ratio.

mayhem, who was it that made those new sways for you? quickor.com?

[juiceman]

Are the sway bar bushings two piece or one?

I guess I am asking if they can be replaced with the bar still on the car?

[diamondj30]

the secrets out,hehe.

[PalmerWMD]

WoW!

Good job, Chris!

Fred...:thumbup

[Mayhem_J30]

Are the sway bar bushings two piece or one?

I guess I am asking if they can be replaced with the bar still on the car?

if you're talking about the front bar, yeah it's one piece. on the front there is two bushings that clamp onto the bar then a metal brace bolts down over the bushing and mounts to...umm..i guess it's the frame. actually that's a problem right now because quickor didn't send me new braces to fit over the larger bushings so it's just sitting in limbo. but yeah, if you need to replace those front two bushings it's an easy job. remove four bolts and it's yours...that is if one doesn't strip bad like it did on mine. the ends of the bar hood to links that connect directly to your strut assembly. The bushings in those links are kinda odd as they are flexible rubber with a bolt shoved in it, plus the alan wrench you gotta shove in there while loosing it up is a PITA but not complicated. Those bushings still looked brand new so I'll leave them be. I suppose they could be replaced with a solid bar taking out some of the play but that might be too rough of a ride.

Yeah Diamond, the secret is out. It took Quickor aprox 8 months to make those bars for me but they were good guys to work with. Diamond discovered them a while back so I took his advice and gave them a call. NOw that they have better documented plans for the bars it shouldn't take AS long to produce more. Can't wait to put them on. The bar increase is proportional to my spring rate increase over stock and hopefully will do nicely.

[Q45tech]

Why would anyone want a stiffer front bar? They are already too stiff - anymore just makes the UNDERSTEER worse!Generally one wants a softer front bar with slightly stiffer springs [no more than 20%] and a stiffer rear how ever you get it.

All factory cars have excessive understeer for untrained driver safety!

[Mayhem_J30]

Why would anyone want a stiffer front bar? They are already too stiff - anymore just makes the UNDERSTEER worse!Generally one wants a softer front bar with slightly stiffer springs [no more than 20%] and a stiffer rear how ever you get it.

All factory cars have excessive understeer for untrained driver safety!

don't worry there's a rear bar that compliments it. oddly though, i have never had an understeer problem. i've always been able to proudly promote oversteer when pushing hard through a corner with the right braking and heavy foot on the throttle. My front always grips hard and never lets go.

[Q45tech]

Your missing the point most drivers don't have a clue as to how to drive a RWD in a corner.......in dry much less rain or snow

When I let people drive my car they always brake inside the curve corner instead of before it--- never seen one power out as the car was designed. Never seen one drop down to 2nd gear prior.

I'll bet even so called complementary rear bars [for a bigger front bar] still uses the same or worse ratio of roll couple.

Is the rear larger than 24 mm solid..........what shocks do you use to control the extra springiness of bars on rebound?

[diamondj30]

all i know is ,my car digs in hard without rolling,havnt the slightest worry of back walking and i forgot the measurements on the bar ,its almost as big as the front oem one.almst and inch.i drive harder in the rain than i did on dry pavement with stock suspension.i have a little over 1 inch cleareance over my front tires and rarely tap them.if you havnt drove a done up j30 i wouldnt speculate .with oem setup just the bars are the bigeest improvement you can make on a j.the difference is amazing.for the money j's in my opinion ride like a farm truck and is about as noisy.chris you will be amazed.it wont be the same.the rear end be harder to bust loose.even without the extra weight like yours.criss what is your front to rear weight ratio.:ylsuper

[VimyJ]

for the money j's in my opinion ride like a farm truck and is about as noisy.

I've been in a few farm trucks and none of them compare in any way to a J30t. Do you mean that the farm trucks you are familiar with have great handling? Tires do make a huge difference in the noise level. My new tires are much quieter than the old POS I used to have judging by the fact that when I get in the car in the morning I don't have to turn the radio down like I used to. I've driven a lot of cars from go boxes to BMW's to forklifts and 10 ton trucks and the stock J30t is in the very highest highest order of handling performance in the automotive world.

That said however, I have different requirements from my car than you. My car is a working, long distance cruiser/touring car not a recreational "arm chair" on rails. For instance, I have stock size rubber because I don't care to personally experience every joint in the concrete yet am still able to push the Benz in front of me on freeway ramps. I won't spend money on all kinds of stereo upgrades because, as a musician, reproduced sounds fall way short of actually making the music. To each his own.

[diamondj30]

i am not a musician buy trade but do make my own recordings and i play all the instruments,exept drum machine ,it plays itself.my car is a long distance traveler i put 35,ooo on it this year.drove it from sealttle to la 3 times just over the summer.tight firm sm ooth.as silk.farm truck still stands,all models.for a arm chair it goes thru one set sz50eps every 7 months.buy the way its a lazyboy not an armchair.hehe

[VimyJ]

i am not a musician buy trade but do make my own recordings and i play all the instruments,exept drum machine ,it plays itself.my car is a long distance traveler i put 35,ooo on it this year.drove it from sealttle to la 3 times just over the summer.tight firm sm ooth.as silk.farm truck still stands,all models.for a arm chair it goes thru one set sz50eps every 7 months.buy the way its a lazyboy not an armchair.hehe

I think my uncle, the dairy farmer, could use one of these magical farm trucks. I stand corrected about the Lazyboy. With the heated seats, driving my J is like taking a nice warm bath at 80 mph without the wrinkled fingers.

[diamondj30]

ditto.