Azusa Canyon

[phanatikz32]

dude you're trippin, you didnt say anything to anyone when we left about needing any further assistance, you acted all nonchalant about crashing and then made it seem as though you didnt care and that you were going to contact your dad to come and pick you up. we did all we could for you what else would we be able to do? nobody had aaa or enough miles left to get your car towed from azusa to victorville, and even if we did those are OUR miles and we could need them later, thats really selfish for you to get upset about us not giving you our aaa service that we PAY FOR, thats like a crack head punching you in the face for not giving him your spare change. what did you want us to just come and sit with you? im not sure if you forgot but driving a car costs money, dont you think asking us to DRIVE to gmr to sit with you is a bit selfish? you know how far it is to gmr and you know how much our cars suck down gas, has it occured to you how much money it would cost us to drive down there? plus you know i was saving my money for that motor. i thought about going to check but i remembered you saying you were going to go to your dads so i figured you'd be gone by the time i got there, its not like anyone has any way of contacting you, you dont have a phone... you should be mad at the situation, not us... i mean look at it from my perspective, i spent over an hour up there trying to diagnose your car jacking it up, trying to fix it to drive it, pushing it finally getting it situated helping you out, and they you want to get on here and spit flames on us? that is shady dude, i think you should ease back and think before you post. no matter what side you look at it you're in the wrong...

[dennisplus]

You know what man, I don't even care anymore. I'm done. I go my way you go yours. I'm not even trippin. I'll just take care of myself no problem. And I was really responding to you saying you haven't run with serious drivers in a long time. I think I took things pretty serious. But oh well.

[spooled240]

And I don't know why you are mad at me, you know I wasn't feeling good at all before then, my stomach hurt like crazy driving back through Mt. Baldy..you have no idea..

But regardless, I stopped on the other side of the turn with my hazards to warn any oncoming traffic around the blind turn just to see if you were OK. After seeing that no one was hurt and your car was back on all fours I headed home where I proceeded to vomit on the side of the road(just to let you know how sick I really was).

Remember that YOU crashed your car, not us and we did about all we could..I think we have a little group of good people that look out for each other, having fixed Mike's z32 and Jason's sw20 when they had problems....shyt we even clearly stated to take it easy that day being that most of us including you have little to no experience running those roads.

I think that was pretty selfish of you to be mad at us for not staying with you, do you know how bad I was feeling? Probably not since you were just thinking about yourself. So just think about who's really being selfish here.

Anyway, I hope the best for you

[ArticDragon192]

Wow, drama lama, geez. **** like this kills the environment up there. Anyways, I'll give more input.

IMO canyons are available to anyone, but know what you're getting yourself into. If you're going to cruise, know that there will be people doing runs and such, so always be alert. I know whenevr I've gone driving I see cars coming down I make myself known and give the guys a bit of extra room. This is only when I'm making my way to the top.

Once I'm up there, I make sure no one is doing runs when I head down. That way the one people I see coming up are people aren't doing runs but rather making their way to the top.

I don't go to make fast times or any of that, but I don't go granny status up there either. Know people might come up behind you and that you might piss people off by driving slow.

However you should never exceed the limits of your car and your own driving abilities.

Oh, and going all out on the 2nd time out? WTF were you thinking? Sorry to hear you went through a lot of ****, but everyone crashes. Take it as a learning experience. Know that not everyone will be there to help you. Know the dangers that are existent up there. And most of all know your limits and the limits of your car.

[phanatikz32]

you are over reacting, i dont know why you would take that message so personally unless you didnt think you were a serious driver, that wasnt aimed at you in any way, i just want you to realize that we havent done anything wrong here so there is no need to point fingers at the team. like i said before dont hate us hate the situation. now if you want to go off on your own then just remember that it's YOUR decision, we dont all hate you, we just think you're being a bit imature about the whole situation. but yeah you know if its like that then best of luck in your life and what not.

[phanatikz32]

Wow, drama lama, geez. **** like this kills the environment up there. Anyways, I'll give more input.

IMO canyons are available to anyone, but know what you're getting yourself into. If you're going to cruise, know that there will be people doing runs and such, so always be alert. I know whenevr I've gone driving I see cars coming down I make myself known and give the guys a bit of extra room. This is only when I'm making my way to the top.

Once I'm up there, I make sure no one is doing runs when I head down. That way the one people I see coming up are people aren't doing runs but rather making their way to the top.

I don't go to make fast times or any of that, but I don't go granny status up there either. Know people might come up behind you and that you might piss people off by driving slow.

However you should never exceed the limits of your car and your own driving abilities.

Oh, and going all out on the 2nd time out? WTF were you thinking? Sorry to hear you went through a lot of ****, but everyone crashes. Take it as a learning experience. Know that not everyone will be there to help you. Know the dangers that are existent up there. And most of all know your limits and the limits of your car.

it really depends on the night you go, becuase its really hard to choose a time to run when there is noone thats going to be in the way or running in the opposite direction. its basically all luck of the draw, if people were more organized about it, maybe walkie talkies at the base of the mountain and at the top, then maybe we could be more efficient, but you know cops have a task force up there now so pretty soon gmr is going to be a thing of the past anyways

[spooled240]

yeah that would be a good idea, 3 mile walkie talkies are pretty cheap now anyway like 50 bux.

btw, Mike: rod, alan, jared and I might go to el-mirage tomorrow permitting it doesn't rain out there. I'll give you a text later.

[phanatikz32]

yeah that would be a good idea, 3 mile walkie talkies are pretty cheap now anyway like 50 bux.

btw, Mike: rod, alan, jared and I might go to el-mirage tomorrow permitting it doesn't rain out there. I'll give you a text later.

that would be a good idean but all sides at gmr are further than 3 miles worth of road, i think baldy is the shortest and its like 11 or 12 miles... but yeah i work 10 to 7 tomorrow so i dont think i could go, plus i got a paper to write, but if it does rain in the next few days we should hit pancake (the parking lot we were at off of 38 where you almost hit the curb ) cuz it eats tires when its dry but its perfect when its wet, i spent like an hour up there when it was wet one and when i was done my tires were barely warm.

[spooled240]

but if it does rain in the next few days we should hit pancake (the parking lot we were at off of 38 where you almost hit the curb ) cuz it eats tires when its dry but its perfect when its wet, i spent like an hour up there when it was wet one and when i was done my tires were barely warm.

nah man I was scoring points..the closer you get to the curb = more points y0! haha

yeah I love when it rains, i used to tear up a smooth asz parking lot when it would rain and my tires were still like brand new when i was done.

edit: as far as the walkie talkies, we'll space people 3 miles apart and relay information lol

[ArticDragon192]

it really depends on the night you go, becuase its really hard to choose a time to run when there is noone thats going to be in the way or running in the opposite direction. its basically all luck of the draw, if people were more organized about it, maybe walkie talkies at the base of the mountain and at the top, then maybe we could be more efficient, but you know cops have a task force up there now so pretty soon gmr is going to be a thing of the past anyways

I've gone on different nights. You just gotta be smart about how you approach the area. I never said drive when there's no one there. Just make your way down when no one is doing uphill runs. People making their way up for the first time shouldn't be doing an all out/ timed run anyways.

And people have been organized about it by being smart about how they run. Walkie talkies shouldn't be needed. If people say they're gonna do an uphill run, other people should keep off the road until the group comes back up.

BTW, that task force has been around for quite a while now. Reason why most old school runners have stopped going as frequently.

[phanatikz32]

thing is it seems now days everyone is running down and up on frontside, and sometimes cars come from around baldy or up the back end and down frontside after cars have gone down, and there is all ways the risk of someone coming up when you're on the down, with no communication you cant really get around that. i'm not saying run when there is nobody either, but it seems to me that a little organization could lead to a decrease in busts, crashes, and making things more efficient time wise also...

[spooled240]

I really like the idea of having some sort of communication along the road, I mean seriously you would only need two check point to relay information with passing cars, or checkpoints where cars pass so we would know if anyone crashed or broke down if they didn't pass the checkpoint in time.

Some people have mentioned CB radios in cars, that doesn't seem too shabby.

[phanatikz32]

good idea yo josh check my thread "phanatiks na->tt swap..." in the 300zx section, i have the pics of my new motor and everything.

[ArticDragon192]

thing is it seems now days everyone is running down and up on frontside, and sometimes cars come from around baldy or up the back end and down frontside after cars have gone down, and there is all ways the risk of someone coming up when you're on the down, with no communication you cant really get around that. i'm not saying run when there is nobody either, but it seems to me that a little organization could lead to a decrease in busts, crashes, and making things more efficient time wise also...

Normally people don't go down the backside unless they're with the group getting ready for the uphill run, or the road is free of people doing timed runs. People need to wait until the run group has come back up. On the way down, yeah, you'll see people coming up. But on the way back up, people need to realize that there's a run going on and that they need to wait.

[VILLEN32]

Jesus Christo! you ladies need to relax and get yourselfs some vagina!

[spooled240]

Jesus Christo! you ladies need to relax and get yourselfs some vagina!

[phanatikz32]

Jesus Christo! you ladies need to relax and get yourselfs some vagina!

lol coming from the guy who thinks people who cruise the mountain are emo... lol

[VILLEN32]

Here we go with the G ay tag team action again.

lol coming from the guy who thinks people who cruise the mountain are emo... lol

[VILLEN32]

you are over reacting, i dont know why you would take that message so personally unless you didnt think you were a serious driver, that wasnt aimed at you in any way, i just want you to realize that we havent done anything wrong here so there is no need to point fingers at the team. like i said before dont hate us hate the situation. now if you want to go off on your own then just remember that it's YOUR decision, we dont all hate you, we just think you're being a bit imature about the whole situation. but yeah you know if its like that then best of luck in your life and what not.

YOU LADIES REALLY TAKE THIS "GIRL TEAM POWEER" verry seriously. Just go park somwhere at a "In N' Out" parking lot and talk about blow off valves you cry babies and oh and why the F$%ck u quoting my sh%t, it doesnt make any sense

[phanatikz32]

lol you do realize you are the exact stereotype of a honda owner right? a "hard ***" kid who likes to play initial D on the mountain and talk **** to people on an internet forums, the guy at the car meets that has nobody to hang out with so you rev your motor at people and peel out. talking **** over the internet is like the special olympics dude, i mean i'm not sure if you're insecure or are just ignorant but if you dont have anything productive to talk about then you can just go back to watching spongebob on your in dash.

[spooled240]

looks like someone just got some sand in her vagina

sure bro, we are taking this seriously...who's the dork who went CAPS and spazzed the f#ck out

YOU LADIES REALLY TAKE THIS "GIRL TEAM POWEER" verry seriously. Just go park somwhere at a "In N' Out" parking lot and talk about blow off valves you cry babies and oh and why the F$%ck u quoting my sh%t, it doesnt make any sense

here's me quoting your "sh%t" again
Modified by spooled240 at 10:34 PM 10/7/2008

[odmoht]

you should take this serious...at least be organized about it, last time i went up, i guess a mr2 crashed and than me and my friends called it a night. also because one of my friends crashed too, tore off his front bumper when we go to the bottom , cops were just posted there...because some truck hit a light pole

do you have to live up there to "cruise" or drive around that area...? because the cops stopped us and asked us that...and we said no...than he told us to take off lol

[phanatikz32]

lol crazy, i have only seen one cop at gmr and that was my first time going like a year ago. but i doubt cops care whether you are from there or not, if your car looks "tuned" they'll write you up. we were at crestline a few weeks ago and an off duty cop nearly crashed on his bike trying to avoid us when we werent in the way. we were stopped on the shoulder cuz one of our cars had a brake problem and he was in the middle turning lane between traffic and this bike is coming so my friend shines the light to make sure he knows that we are there and he locks up his brakes then comes up and shows us his badge and starts cussing us out for almost causing him to crash and telling us we are only there to street race and we'd better leave before he calls back up. it was funny to me, we just went down the road to a turn off and kicked it for another hour or so. cops are fuggin stupid they assume every import car is a street racer.

[spooled240]

you just have to be one step ahead of the cops-that means going to places that aren't so popular and hot and knowing when to chill and when to push it.

[odmoht]

haha thats funny...well we couldn't exit the other way out because my friend that crashed had a leak in his radiator and couldnt really do anything lol.was kinda hard to be one step ahead of the cops because i thought there was no one up there , but i was wrong...about 8-12 cars up there, so we just went home after my friend crashed.

funny biker cops

[phanatikz32]

what day did you go

[odmoht]

it was in august, i think...not exactly sure of the day loli think it was on a week day, not 100% sure.

[MaximA32]

Locked because you kids need to learn to play nice. Let's keep it PG-13 boys. Next person I see bypassing the language filter with the retarded symbols is getting an unpaid vacation courtesy of yours truely.