Please Help! - AWD Rogue L/100km Stats

[ImStricken06]

My recently purchased 2011 SL AWD has 40,000km on it. Located in Toronto (winter driving) 100% city driving in traffic to and from work about 45 min each way. Computer says avg speed is 30km/hr (18mph). Very light footed on the accelerator and try to drive conservatively. Constantly getting around 12.4L/100km (19 mpg). Does this sound right to you guys? I'm not really impressed with my city driving numbers. I thought I would be getting better...

sounds about right mate. this car doesnt get anywhere NEAR the idea's we all had when we got into this 4cyl. my 2002 3.5L maxima got better MPG's. but, idle times: cant be beat. its a 4cyl!

[kerrton]

Be sure to calculate your mileage manually, it can be quite different from the computer calculated number.

Efficiency numbers will vary a lot, from one driver to the next, and under highly variable driving conditions - most often its the drivers fault, not the vehicle.

My FWD 2008 Rogue gets very close to the post numbers in the summer, but I am a conservative driver. This vehicle is HIGLY dependant on driving style, more so than other vehicles because the CVT will really change its behaviour if you give it light throttle - it will select a high gear ratio very early, quickly lowering the rpms which saves a lot fuel. In winter, when its very cold and I have extra idle time for warm up, the worst I ever get around town is 10-10.5 L/100km. In summer I get bang-on 9.0L/100km consitently with 100% city driving, which is the posted number. On the highway I don't get quite as close to the posted value of 7.0, the best I hope to get is 8.0 and normally its closer to 9.0 when I drive 120kph.

If you are in stop-and-go traffic and you are hard on the accelerator and brakes your mileage will suffer greatly. If you drive conservatively and keep the rpms well under 2000, and under 1500 once you've hit your 50kph speed, you'll get much better efficiency. If you're routinely in the 3000 rpm range, just as a general guideline, you're driving too aggressively and mileage will reflect this.

[ImStricken06]

i gotta be honest, NJ is like a racetrack full of aggressive drivers. and if you dont keep up with the flow, your gonna get shot LOL

[nightfawl]

My wife primarily drives this vehicle and she is very light on the gas peddle. And I also looked at how many Km we are getting per tank and it is around 400km range when it's almost empty. Again that is city driving with quite a bit of stop and go in the city, but I still thought we should get better mileage. Would it be a waste of my time to bring it into Nissan to have them take a look?

[Rogue One]

My wife primarily drives this vehicle and she is very light on the gas peddle. And I also looked at how many Km we are getting per tank and it is around 400km range when it's almost empty. Again that is city driving with quite a bit of stop and go in the city, but I still thought we should get better mileage. Would it be a waste of my time to bring it into Nissan to have them take a look?

Probably not necessary, unless routine maintenance has not been performed. BTW on these trips, is the route primarily flat terrain, or very hilly or a combination?

[darylzero]

My recently purchased 2011 SL AWD has 40,000km on it. Located in Toronto (winter driving) 100% city driving in traffic to and from work about 45 min each way. Computer says avg speed is 30km/hr (18mph). Very light footed on the accelerator and try to drive conservatively. Constantly getting around 12.4L/100km (19 mpg). Does this sound right to you guys? I'm not really impressed with my city driving numbers. I thought I would be getting better...

19mpg is what I get driving in the city. If I drive all highway I get 27-29mpg.

As for what my trip computer tells me when I fill up, miles til empty is usually around 311 this winter.

[walt227]

Perhaps not the right thread for this but since "type of terrain" has been mentioned....

All things being equal, in hilly or mountainous terrain, if I set my cruise control at say 50 mph do I save the same amount of gas going downhill as the amount of gas I expend going uphill? Or another way, do I use more gas going uphill than I save going down the same hill?

[ImStricken06]

Perhaps not the right thread for this but since "type of terrain" has been mentioned....

All things being equal, in hilly or mountainous terrain, if I set my cruise control at say 50 mph do I save the same amount of gas going downhill as the amount of gas I expend going uphill? Or another way, do I use more gas going uphill than I save going down the same hill?

think of gasoline as fuel in your body. in which scenario would you burn more calories in? walking up the stairs or down?

you will burn much more fuel fighting gravity by driving uphill

[kerrton]

My wife primarily drives this vehicle and she is very light on the gas peddle. And I also looked at how many Km we are getting per tank and it is around 400km range when it's almost empty. Again that is city driving with quite a bit of stop and go in the city, but I still thought we should get better mileage. Would it be a waste of my time to bring it into Nissan to have them take a look?

I wouldn't hesitate to bring it to the dealer and mention the horrible gas mileage you're getting - mileage will be highly variable but if you are consistently only getting 400 km from a tank you are not even close, I get 550 km in winter with 100% city driving with my FWD 08 Rogue.

They can connect their diagnostic CONSULT tool to your car and check all of the sensor readings including combustion parameters, intake, exhaust - from start to finish and within a matter of just a few minutes know if anything is out of spec.. They can also reset your ECU computer and essentially start from fresh factory settings - then you drive normally and conservatively and the ECU will be in "learn" mode, which means it learns your driving style and tunes itself to optimize the driving experience. If you drive conservatively in learn-mode it will tune the vehicle for optimium efficiency.

I strongly suggest you take it to Nissan to have a full diagnostic check, it is a quick and easy process that can be extremely useful with a good chance of solving your issue. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

[anan6708]

Hi all,
I got the Rogue in 2010 and the fuel has been pretty good until I notice some abnormal high fuel usage on highway recently. The computer gave 12.8 L/100km on high way. Before, it was around 9.5~10. My friend drove a Honda CRV with me during the same trip and he got 9.8. So I guess road condition wasn't the reason. Is there anyone having same issue? Or any suggestions? Thank you.

[ImStricken06]

Hi all,
I got the Rogue in 2010 and the fuel has been pretty good until I notice some abnormal high fuel usage on highway recently. The computer gave 12.8 L/100km on high way. Before, it was around 9.5~10. My friend drove a Honda CRV with me during the same trip and he got 9.8. So I guess road condition wasn't the reason. Is there anyone having same issue? Or any suggestions? Thank you.

welcome to the forum. no need to start new threads. i am merging this with the thread, right below yours.
the CRV has 15 more horsepower at 185hp.

was your friends car awd? was it loaded just like yours? a lot has to do with it.

[kerrton]

Hi all,
I got the Rogue in 2010 and the fuel has been pretty good until I notice some abnormal high fuel usage on highway recently. The computer gave 12.8 L/100km on high way. Before, it was around 9.5~10. My friend drove a Honda CRV with me during the same trip and he got 9.8. So I guess road condition wasn't the reason. Is there anyone having same issue? Or any suggestions? Thank you.

As I suggested above, if you've eliminated all other possible causes of the poor gas mileage as listed above and you consistently are getting close to 13L/100km, I would strongly suggest taking it to the dealer for diagnosis. You will not find anyone on this forum that gets that poor mileage with their Rogue, or if they do there are clear reasons such as driving style or driving conditions. Like I said, in poor winter conditions the absolute worst I get is around 10L/100, in warmer weather I get 9L in town and between 8-9 on the highway consistently.

[darylzero]

My wife primarily drives this vehicle and she is very light on the gas peddle. And I also looked at how many Km we are getting per tank and it is around 400km range when it's almost empty. Again that is city driving with quite a bit of stop and go in the city, but I still thought we should get better mileage. Would it be a waste of my time to bring it into Nissan to have them take a look?

They can connect their diagnostic CONSULT tool to your car and check all of the sensor readings including combustion parameters, intake, exhaust - from start to finish and within a matter of just a few minutes know if anything is out of spec.. They can also reset your ECU computer and essentially start from fresh factory settings - then you drive normally and conservatively and the ECU will be in "learn" mode, which means it learns your driving style and tunes itself to optimize the driving experience. If you drive conservatively in learn-mode it will tune the vehicle for optimium efficiency.

That's not a bad idea kerrton. I kinda wish I had this done right before the warranty was up (don't know if they would still charge me), but now I'm sure this would cost at least $250.

After driving the rogue for 3 years and really know the CVT now and how to drive it; reseting the ECU sounds good.

[ImStricken06]

just drive slower, and it will "relearn" your new driving pattern. i just realized mine is on a more aggressive learn pattern. i lightly tapped the gas today and it revved really high (because yesterday, i had it up to 5000rpm and held it there on an on ramp till i reached about 90mph)

[sprocket]

Also, it could be the quality of gas. I noticed a drop in mpg when getting gas at Sam's club vs Mobil, so I stopped going to Sam's. Saving a few pennies isn't worth it IMO.

I've had best luck with Mobil, Speedway, Shell, BP, Citgo, Sunoco so I avoid the "value" and no-name gas stations after my experience with mpg drop at Sam's.

[nightfawl]

My wife primarily drives this vehicle and she is very light on the gas peddle. And I also looked at how many Km we are getting per tank and it is around 400km range when it's almost empty. Again that is city driving with quite a bit of stop and go in the city, but I still thought we should get better mileage. Would it be a waste of my time to bring it into Nissan to have them take a look?

I wouldn't hesitate to bring it to the dealer and mention the horrible gas mileage you're getting - mileage will be highly variable but if you are consistently only getting 400 km from a tank you are not even close, I get 550 km in winter with 100% city driving with my FWD 08 Rogue.

They can connect their diagnostic CONSULT tool to your car and check all of the sensor readings including combustion parameters, intake, exhaust - from start to finish and within a matter of just a few minutes know if anything is out of spec.. They can also reset your ECU computer and essentially start from fresh factory settings - then you drive normally and conservatively and the ECU will be in "learn" mode, which means it learns your driving style and tunes itself to optimize the driving experience. If you drive conservatively in learn-mode it will tune the vehicle for optimium efficiency.

I strongly suggest you take it to Nissan to have a full diagnostic check, it is a quick and easy process that can be extremely useful with a good chance of solving your issue. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

This is a great idea, thanks for providing me with this info! I will be taking it into a Nissan dealership in the next couple of weeks for a strange sound coming from the dash so I will ask them to do this as well.