auto 350Z vs. CVT 3.5SE?

[rjdmmfl1]

Let's not forget here skippie, I owned a 2003 Brickyard 350Z Touring 6M/T but here ya are:

http://www.modernracer.com/nissan350z.html

http://nissan.jbcarpages.com/Z/2003/index4.php

http://www.albeedigital.com/su....html

http://www.cardomain.com/MakeM...pts=1 6.2A/Chttp://www.edmunds.com/apps/vd...ber=1 6.0 A/C

http://www.motortrend.com/road....html

... seriously, are you slow???? thanks, you just poved my point...

did you even go to those sites you linked??? for the last time AUTO 350Z vs CVT

most of those sites you posted had nothing to do with the AUTO 350Z & were just about manual 350Z's... pointless.. the one that did talk about the auto 350Z had this to say

"A manually-shifted coupe sprints from 0-60 mph in about 5.5 seconds and an automatic roadster needs another second or so to hit that mark."

a second or so, meaning 6.5 - 6.6 seconds going from 0-60... and I've already shown the links of the 14.8 second 1/4 mile times

the fact that you owned a manual means NOTHING regarding this topic... AUTO 350Z vs CVT.. we know the manual 350 Z beats the manual A/C... but the auto 4 speed transmission in the 350Z is GARBAGE compared to the CVT!!!

we have a guy here that has SLIPS showing he did his 1/4 mile in 14.4s stock in his A/C...

so again, in a head to head race at a track, with a stock A/C and a stock AUTOMATIC 350 Z, the A/C can and will win that race... that's NOTHING to say about the manuals...
Modified by rjdmmfl1 at 2:51 PM 7/16/2008

[adidas2go]

u wanna talk kings of handling?

F1 = RWD =)

Apperantly you do have a problem with reading things, judging by your previous posts. I said on PRODUCTION Performance cars, AWD is better. Check out the track stats for a BMW 330i vs BMW 330xi. You will see the xi runs a better track time

What do you mean absolutely not? I did say in OPTIMUM TRACTION conditions. You can't break the rules of physics, so a car with a better power to weight ratio will win.

I'll use the bold tag, wait a sec...there:

in OPTIMUM TRACTION conditions.

p.s.: I'm talking about straight line acceleration, not slalom.

Absolutley not: that any altima coupe would beat a VQ35HR 350z (07+). Not gonna happen stock. Power to weight ratio, or not, there are many more factors that come in there. Gear ratios, power transfer, transmission, and most improtantly, a motor that creates 40 more hp than ours

Let's not forget here skippie, I owned a 2003 Brickyard 350Z Touring 6M/T but here ya are:

Still talking about an automatic 03 350z here. 03-04 350z (VQ35DE), 05-06 350z (VQ35DE Revup), 07-08 (VQ35HR). As you most likely know, Our motor is the same motor as the, more advanced, 05-06 year 350z's. Like I stated in my previous post. I have flat out, beaten, an 06 350z automatic. You can't drive an automatic 350z "wrong". End of story, I would beat a 03 350z automatic, if it were me vs me

[LinkNuc]

Say what you want CVT edmunds got 6.4, I'll be generous and say 6.0sec 0 60

http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...20849

and the 350Z is 5-speed auto

[heeroguy]

[QUOTE=adidas2go]

Apperantly you do have a problem with reading things, judging by your previous posts. I said on PRODUCTION Performance cars, AWD is better. Check out the track stats for a BMW 330i vs BMW 330xi. You will see the xi runs a better track time

yea missed the production part lol

but track times do not = handling sorry im talking about handling and everyones throwing different situations and senarios at me

u get a skid pad of a 330xi and a 33i and i bet the 330i has better skidpad and slalom (SP)

why can u ever explain something simply without every one going off on a tangent and adding senarios to the situation

i never said awd was slower than rwd is said it didnt handle as good so please read what i said aswell

[adidas2go]

LinkNuc- Edmunds is absolute garbage, I hope you would know this, considering you seem fairly well versed in the automotive world. Car and Driver rated the 3.5 CVT @ 5.8, 0-60 and 14.6, 1/4 mile. A far more reputable company.

Hero- I put things in scenarios so people can understand them easier. Many times when you try to exlpain things to people online, you need to paint a mental imagine for them to fully understand it, like I did with you.

Skidpad ResultsE46 330i - .84E46 330xi - .89

[Hussain]

LMAO! did you see what they got in the 1/4 mile with it? they got just under 15.0. so thats like 14.9 WOW! they can't drive. they even took the new GT-R to the track i go to (Sacramento raceway) and got like a 11.9 when other magazines got a 11.5 i believe. they really need to get people that can actually drive

[heeroguy]

LinkNuc- Edmunds is absolute garbage, I hope you would know this, considering you seem fairly well versed in the automotive world. Car and Driver rated the 3.5 CVT @ 5.8, 0-60 and 14.6, 1/4 mile. A far more reputable company.

Hero- I put things in scenarios so people can understand them easier. Many times when you try to exlpain things to people online, you need to paint a mental imagine for them to fully understand it, like I did with you.

Skidpad ResultsE46 330i - .84E46 330xi - .89

your source on thiese skid pad results? as i have no found one site with both cars tested on the same course, i was comming between .87-.91 for the 3301 and .83-.88 for the 330xi, which is why i didnt state the actual skidpads, as i didnt wanna make something up so i averaged them out, but if u have a site that compares both vehicles of same year on the same skidpad i would love to see them,

also i try to explain things with facts and not paint some fantasy picture of what i believe is the truth and misinterpuret things other people say on purpose to twist them around for my own agenda,

also i dont go around trying to mock insult or humiliate other people as thats just completely childish and signs ur a forum troll

so please give me a link for those results, and if u have a site dedicated to comparing skid pads, braking ft, slaloms etc i would be greatly interested, cause 0-60 times and HP sites are all over the place

[marlin29311]

also i try to explain things with facts and not paint some fantasy picture of what i believe is the truth and misinterpuret things other people say on purpose to twist them around for my own agenda

kinda sounds like what edmunds, consumer reports, and a few others do...

[Burtonboarder950]

350z vs altima coupestory of my life.

[notaverage]

350z vs altima coupestory of my life.

I hope thats just a figure of speech, otherwise your life would be pretty boring

[Burtonboarder950]

lmao! smarta$$

[adidas2go]

I haven't found a comparo of these 2 cars on the same track. I based this on a BMW Driving school I went to a few years ago at VIR. I personally drove both of these cars, the xi had a larger amount of tq steer and body roll, but on the wet skid pad, I had a much easier time controlling/reducing the over steer. I pulled those numbers off the internet, from different sources. I cannot find a comparo of the 2, but I remember the instruction at VIR teaching us about the superiority of the AWD.

The 330i comes with 2 different suspension packages. The 330i ZHP does handle far better than the 330xi, because it comes with the M3's suspension. Those are the skidpad times you quoted. However, for the 330i standard suspension, the degrees are lower.

I am really trying to figure out if you just called me a forum troll or not. I didn't try to mock or insult you at all. I pointed out a fact, that you don't read things thoroughly before you post rebuttal about them. You've done it quite a few times in this thread alone. If you screw up, I will call you out on it. Its that simple. As I expect people to do to me, as you seem to be with this comparo.

Isn't your gf the one who works with the high performance suspension company? Doesn't she also have a few subaru's? If shes into be best handling suspensions, why did she pick an AWD? Just kinda curious about it. Thats all

[Burtonboarder950]

i know i have no business between you and heroguy i just wanted to say that i love forum hostility

[heeroguy]

i ahve no hostility towards anyone =)

i was just trying to correct someone and addidas jumped in and his views are different from my own, i didnt like his comments towards me on how he has to treat me like a child,

there are many different car dynamics and car setups im done argueing over it =)

and yea she loved her subaru and sold suspension and other high line parts and she knows her **** pretty good too, also they sold alotta bmw parts etc

reason they specialized in subaru suspension was cause they had decene power stock but really needed suspension help and thats what people wanted most

btw im not replying alot broke my hand this weekend and have to have surgery tomorrow to get a plate in my hand so i missed out on driving an autocross this weekend =(

[rjdmmfl1]

i ahve no hostility towards anyone =)

i was just trying to correct someone and addidas jumped in and his views are different from my own, i didnt like his comments towards me on how he has to treat me like a child,

there are many different car dynamics and car setups im done argueing over it =)

and yea she loved her subaru and sold suspension and other high line parts and she knows her **** pretty good too, also they sold alotta bmw parts etc

reason they specialized in subaru suspension was cause they had decene power stock but really needed suspension help and thats what people wanted most

btw im not replying alot broke my hand this weekend and have to have surgery tomorrow to get a plate in my hand so i missed out on driving an autocross this weekend =(

hope surgery goes well...

[heeroguy]

hope surgery goes well...

thanks me too, not really looking forward to it but should be a simple operation

[adidas2go]

hope you do well with the surgery

[heeroguy]

well everything went well i got a nice plate in my hand, alotta pain and a alotta vicodin so im doing alright

thanks for the concern

[SuperHeero]

Isn't your gf the one who works with the high performance suspension company? Doesn't she also have a few subaru's? If shes into be best handling suspensions, why did she pick an AWD? Just kinda curious about it. Thats all

My choosing AWD had nothing to do with power or handling when I chose my Baja. I live where it snows and I have a big ol' 120lb great dane.



and well lets just say turbos are cool

AFTER I got my Baja I fell in love with the Subarus and the AWD,

I now have a FWD and my Baja hands down handled better then my Altima, and it only had sways and nice beefy wide tires and it was a TRUCK!

How ever my Altima is sooo much faster.

We specialized in suspensions for the Subarus because

1. They werent made like they should have been

and

2. It was an untapped market when the business was started.

We also sold suspensions for EVO, Porsche, and BMW along with a complete line of racing parts.

Yes I know my suspension stuff, probably more then you would ever guess, I simply don't have a need for a car to be perfectly balanced going 200MPH through the back twisty roads of PA... but I sure as heck know how to make one.