Attention ALL Active Owners: Group buy setup for active suspension controller!
I was the vacation, I got a response though!!
Also, stay tuned for my long 2004 XJ8 observations..
anyway
How are you doing? I would like to apologize for the in our response. Here are some of the answers to your questions: 1. They have a remote for their older product, Ibelieve it the ASE66x (here is a pic,http://image.www.rakuten.co.jp....jpeg)Any idea if this is compatible with the asc680. All ASE66X have been discontinued and not offered anymore.
2. Any idea if it's possible to get longer wires. Theactive suspension computer is located in the trunk,and we would really prefer to mount this thing in theinterior somehow (because its really sexy) The JDM model of the Infinit Q45 suspension controller is also in the rear, so the special harness has already been made so that the controller can be used in the interior.
3. On a site, I saw the adjustment possibilities forthe active suspension, at this. +40mm -95mm. Can youconfirm this? If it is wrong, what are the ranges.
For the Infiniti Q45, the ranges are -50mm~+10mm
4. On the older units ASE66x, it was possible to autoadjust based on speed, has this function been deletedin the asc680?
This function is not availble any more but it does include valve monitoring capability now. Thank you and again we are sorry for the delay in our response. Kevin
Also, stay tuned for my long 2004 XJ8 observations..
anyway
How are you doing? I would like to apologize for the in our response. Here are some of the answers to your questions: 1. They have a remote for their older product, Ibelieve it the ASE66x (here is a pic,http://image.www.rakuten.co.jp....jpeg)Any idea if this is compatible with the asc680. All ASE66X have been discontinued and not offered anymore.
2. Any idea if it's possible to get longer wires. Theactive suspension computer is located in the trunk,and we would really prefer to mount this thing in theinterior somehow (because its really sexy) The JDM model of the Infinit Q45 suspension controller is also in the rear, so the special harness has already been made so that the controller can be used in the interior.
3. On a site, I saw the adjustment possibilities forthe active suspension, at this. +40mm -95mm. Can youconfirm this? If it is wrong, what are the ranges.
For the Infiniti Q45, the ranges are -50mm~+10mm
4. On the older units ASE66x, it was possible to autoadjust based on speed, has this function been deletedin the asc680?
This function is not availble any more but it does include valve monitoring capability now. Thank you and again we are sorry for the delay in our response. Kevin
Oh well on the remote, the controller fits in the interior! :ylsuper
-5cm and +1cm is plenty for me... being able to raise and lower the Q by 2" is pretty stellar.
Hopefully it won't be difficult to adjust height on the fly. It'd be nice not having to worry about scratching/bending/breaking a body kit going into a mall parking lot, etc.
In any case, would you be able to send me an e-mail regarding payment options? That'd be much appreciated!
Corey
-5cm and +1cm is plenty for me... being able to raise and lower the Q by 2" is pretty stellar.
Hopefully it won't be difficult to adjust height on the fly. It'd be nice not having to worry about scratching/bending/breaking a body kit going into a mall parking lot, etc.
In any case, would you be able to send me an e-mail regarding payment options? That'd be much appreciated!
Corey
From my understanding, the actual harness installs in the boot of the car between the the original wiring harness and the original active suspension controller. The new harness then has wires which are long enough to run all the way to the dash of the Q45 where the ASE680 mounts.
Hopefully that makes sense
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Corey
Hopefully that makes sense
.Corey
Ok, this is what I found on about the pricing. It's a little strange, and I'm sorry I couldn't get the $399.00 quoted, for each unit.
If we get 5 orders, I can get $399.00 for each. When I said I could get the group buy price, for individual units, that apparently only applies for me
What I mean was they quoted that for me, since I was the first one inquiring about it. They made it sound like they would give that price, for each unit ordered, but apparently not.
Sorry for the confusion, I guess I misunderstood what they told me.
Here is the email I received from them
"How are you doing? That is the correct price for your personal controller since you were the first to contact us and seemed very interested. For the rest of the controllers it will be $484.50 and the harness is $130.00. If you have more than 5 people,that are willing to purchase the device, we can renegotiate the price. Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you"
"How are you doing? As for pricing, The retail of this device is $570.00. You are receiving Dealer pricing for the additional devices. As for the guarantee, like we said in the past, the ASC680 is only guaranteed to work with the Infiniti Q45 in the Japanese Domestic Market, we are not sure of its compatibility in the U.S. Market. Also if you have 5 or more people purchasing the ASC680, we will renegotiate pricing for the additional units. Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you."
If we get 5 orders, I can get $399.00 for each. When I said I could get the group buy price, for individual units, that apparently only applies for me
What I mean was they quoted that for me, since I was the first one inquiring about it. They made it sound like they would give that price, for each unit ordered, but apparently not.
Sorry for the confusion, I guess I misunderstood what they told me.
Here is the email I received from them
"How are you doing? That is the correct price for your personal controller since you were the first to contact us and seemed very interested. For the rest of the controllers it will be $484.50 and the harness is $130.00. If you have more than 5 people,that are willing to purchase the device, we can renegotiate the price. Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you"
"How are you doing? As for pricing, The retail of this device is $570.00. You are receiving Dealer pricing for the additional devices. As for the guarantee, like we said in the past, the ASC680 is only guaranteed to work with the Infiniti Q45 in the Japanese Domestic Market, we are not sure of its compatibility in the U.S. Market. Also if you have 5 or more people purchasing the ASC680, we will renegotiate pricing for the additional units. Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you."
Awww . Maybe we'll be able to get some other active owners to get in on this... Hopefully anyways...
$530 for the controller and harness is a sweet deal. If someone were to try and do what this controller can do to regular suspension they'd be spending at least as much as the contoller every 50k miles, not to mention installation fees... plus it adds flexibility as we can drop/raise the car as frequently as we like
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In any case, I'll pass the word on to all active Q owners I can find and hopefully we'll be able to get the group buy price.
Corey
. Maybe we'll be able to get some other active owners to get in on this... Hopefully anyways...$530 for the controller and harness is a sweet deal. If someone were to try and do what this controller can do to regular suspension they'd be spending at least as much as the contoller every 50k miles, not to mention installation fees... plus it adds flexibility as we can drop/raise the car as frequently as we like
.In any case, I'll pass the word on to all active Q owners I can find and hopefully we'll be able to get the group buy price.
Corey
Don't forget, this unit is only 1/2 DIN. The Bose unit is 2 DIN and a regular head unit is 1 DIN. You may have to see if you can find 3 other 1/2 DIN unit to fill the spaceAZ94Q wrote:wow, what a dream come true.
So I can rip out the bose head unit.. put a slim aftermarket unit in, and put this active suspension controller underneath it.
. Just joshing with ya... just fabricate a piece of black plastic to surround the controller taking up the other space.Corey
Miniman,
Based on the measurements of the ASC680 and the measurements of the center dash unit.. If you removed the bose head unit, would the ASC680 fit inside? I have never seen one in real life, but I am begining to think it may be too wide?
I was thinking of mounting it in the worthless center console storage area, if I couldn't mount it in the dash (in replace of the bose head unit) If I mounted it in the middle storage area it would be kind of like the sony cd head unit install, but facing a different direction, and taking up much more space.
Based on the measurements of the ASC680 and the measurements of the center dash unit.. If you removed the bose head unit, would the ASC680 fit inside? I have never seen one in real life, but I am begining to think it may be too wide?
I was thinking of mounting it in the worthless center console storage area, if I couldn't mount it in the dash (in replace of the bose head unit) If I mounted it in the middle storage area it would be kind of like the sony cd head unit install, but facing a different direction, and taking up much more space.
The ASC680 is extremely small. It is approximately 1/2 DIN. To put that into perspective, the BOSE head unit is 2 DIN (four times the ASC680's size). An average aftermarket head unit is 1 DIN (twice the size). The unit most definitely would not be too wide, rather it would be too small.
I am considering mounting mine in the ashtray, and do a teency bit of custom fabrication. That way you would be able to make it dissappear and have a stock appearance when you like, and pull the door down to adjust settings when you choose.
Seeing as though I'm 1500miles away from my Q, I can't tell you weather or not the 1/2 DIN unit would fit into the ash tray for sure, but it should. There are a few other places you could place it... anywhere from the arm rest to the glove compartment to under the dash.
On another note, may I ask who it is we're going through to get this deal?
Corey
I am considering mounting mine in the ashtray, and do a teency bit of custom fabrication. That way you would be able to make it dissappear and have a stock appearance when you like, and pull the door down to adjust settings when you choose.
Seeing as though I'm 1500miles away from my Q, I can't tell you weather or not the 1/2 DIN unit would fit into the ash tray for sure, but it should. There are a few other places you could place it... anywhere from the arm rest to the glove compartment to under the dash.
On another note, may I ask who it is we're going through to get this deal?
Corey
Toyama Grouphttp://www.toyamagroup.com
I can't believe it's that small, that's great.. Tech gets more powerfull and smaller, never fails..
That ashtray idea is very interesting, indeed...
I am going to place my order very soon. I will instruct them to count my purchase towards the group buy.. You will then only need 4 other units... 3 other besides yourself, to get the group buy price..
I can't believe it's that small, that's great.. Tech gets more powerfull and smaller, never fails..
That ashtray idea is very interesting, indeed...
I am going to place my order very soon. I will instruct them to count my purchase towards the group buy.. You will then only need 4 other units... 3 other besides yourself, to get the group buy price..
Do you know if this completely over rides the regular active suspension ECU? Or is this just a piggy back unit that can send/retrieve info, when needed...
Since it claims to have a faster microprocessor, with the right programming it may be better if it was fully operating the suspension at all times..
Since it claims to have a faster microprocessor, with the right programming it may be better if it was fully operating the suspension at all times..
As far as I understand, the unit only piggy backs the stock active suspension controller. Finding a reprogrammed controller or someone whom is able to reprogram it would be a dream... I doubt it'd ever happen .
Thanks for the link btw. Do you think they would let you order two controller's (under your name) for that price?
Corey
.Thanks for the link btw. Do you think they would let you order two controller's (under your name) for that price?
Corey
I did try that angle.. they are only offering one unit to me for that price.. They did say the regular price is basically wholesale, and should be considered a good deal.. not sure if you believe that..
Although for what I see the older ASE664 units going for on yahoo jp auction sthe asc480 for under 500 seems like a good deal...
Pay the extra hundred, you know it's worth it
Easy for me to say, I don't have to...
Although for what I see the older ASE664 units going for on yahoo jp auction sthe asc480 for under 500 seems like a good deal...
Pay the extra hundred, you know it's worth it
Easy for me to say, I don't have to...
Wes, my best guess is you'd either have to reburn the EPROM (s) or piggyback another unit (such as the ASC680). Okay, reburning isn't all that hard, but you need to be able to decode and edit functions on the chip right? You'd need to find out all the variables, functions, etc. Nissan used when writing the code.
I'm sure if it was easy someone would have done it, especially with the amount of active Q45a's in Japan.
Corey
I'm sure if it was easy someone would have done it, especially with the amount of active Q45a's in Japan.
Corey
Here is a harness for a field active suspension controller.. never heard of field..
Who knows with these yahoo jp auctions
Damn babelfish refuses to translate now.. makes looking at those auctions a huge ordeal.. I wish they would fix this.. it was so easy before
http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co...30678
Who knows with these yahoo jp auctions
Damn babelfish refuses to translate now.. makes looking at those auctions a huge ordeal.. I wish they would fix this.. it was so easy before
http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co...30678
Corey,
After I found that harness, I decided to try to find the company!
I found it..
http://www.field-net.co.jp/lin....html
Translate that in babelfish.. It should work as a direct translation.
This has a speed set function, as well..
Hmm, I wonder which one is better, or if we'll ever be able to find out, before ordering one...
This one isn't as sexy looking, but it is packed with features..
I will try to do some more investigating..
After I found that harness, I decided to try to find the company!
I found it..
http://www.field-net.co.jp/lin....html
Translate that in babelfish.. It should work as a direct translation.
This has a speed set function, as well..
Hmm, I wonder which one is better, or if we'll ever be able to find out, before ordering one...
This one isn't as sexy looking, but it is packed with features..
I will try to do some more investigating..
