Arizona passes state bill to secede from the union if matial law is declared.

[AZhitman]

I bought some.

Yeah, but you use yours for its intended purpose, not as the raw materials for protective headgear.

[heliochrome85]

lulz.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

"Yes. President Bush struck down Posse Comitatus -- which has prevented, with a penalty of two years in prison, U.S. leaders since after the Civil War from sending military forces into our streets -- with a 'signing statement.' He should be impeached immediately in a bipartisan process to prevent the use of military forces and mercenary forces against U.S. citizens"

"

Old conspiracy is old.

I know I'm using wiki here (booo), but I've snooped around and it's correct and an effective summary:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...ments

[OchnofConcrete]

i saw the vid of the Indiana "Concentration Camp"... it's feasable. i've seen the info on the removal of the Cometus Act... also feasable. not because i'm a theorist on conspiricies. because of the reasoning Bush has used to do the things he's done. ...he's the shoot first ask questions later type because it gets the job done that he needs done before ppl can say he shouldn't have done it.

thing is.. would there be a real reason to do all of this? obviously if the voters were slaves or prisoners, the economy would fully fail. it would then become a military state. and that's fully attainable too.. (it only took 3800 US soldier deaths to put down half a million pissed off and protesting Iraqis... once the guys with rifles protecting their land died.. the rest were unarmed citizens ...we have 1.4 million soldiers in the US military... think of the possibilities.)

again.. thing is.. would they really want to do that.. and why.

what would be their reasoning if they were going to do it. WHY.

control is obvious.. but would they survive without us. YES. capitol and resources can be funneled and relocated by soldiers... the majority of businesses are useless to a military government.

but why else?

is there any other all-emcompassing reason for them to do that to the world... because if they did that here, the world economy would falter sharply.. create vulnerabilities for the rest of te world.. in turn making them need to protect themselves or create the same marial law. or just cut us off from the rest.. but with all the allies and interlinking, that wouldn't happen. though.. with the military running all the necessary productions, it would survive. they don't need us.

what i'm getting at is WHY.. (yeah, i know.. redundant)

anyone else know?

i'm not saying it's going to happen. i'm just saying it's fully possible.

the main way to figure out if it WOULD really happen is to find out the motive.

9/11 is easy... the same pipeline Russia wanted to make, we've now made... as well as set up the US base there for operations in the middle east. that was the motive for the conspiracy.

this one isn't so easy.

beyond absolute control of variable domestic daily productivity and outcomes, i can't think of why they would do it.

sides this.. with over population and no real solution to global climate change, there's only one way to prevent catastrophe.. eliminate all unneeded demand beyond survival. a co-ed military nation would continue the human race. not to mention quell any domestic disputes... i.e. racism, class structure, and of course.. obesity and gene mutation (through eradication of cancerous carriers through genocide)

beyond that... anyone else got a good reason WHY?

again.. i'm not saying i believe in it.. but there's a famous qoute.. can't remember who though...

"Chance favors the prepared mind."

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Blah blah blah

I'll say it time and time again: the idea a few powerful men can control the giant bureaucracy that makes up most of the government and military is laughable.

You ever successfully bullied a DMV employee into doing what you want? Same idea.

[HashiriyaS14]

I'll say it time and time again: the idea a few powerful men can control the giant bureaucracy that makes up most of the government and military is laughable.

Yep.

The idea that the chain of command would hold together if the President started making nonsensical orders is preposterous.

And by "nonsensical" I mean like, use the USS Missouri to shell Baltimore.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Yep.

The idea that the chain of command would hold together if the President started making nonsensical orders is preposterous.

And by "nonsensical" I mean like, use the USS Missouri to shell Baltimore.

Exactly...

Frankly, the idea we can't figure out what's legal or not is insulting. I've gotten enough Law of Armed Combat briefings to choke a horse. Simply put, the regular military cannot operate inside the United States. That's why Air National Guard F-16s patrol over the White House.

[TBrack]

Exactly...

Frankly, the idea we can't figure out what's legal or not is insulting. I've gotten enough Law of Armed Combat briefings to choke a horse. Simply put, the regular military cannot operate inside the United States. That's why Air National Guard F-16s patrol over the White House.

The point is the new law MAKES it legal and that is where the officers have to decide weather or not to follow an unlawful lawful order.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

The point is the new law MAKES it legal and that is where the officers have to decide weather or not to follow an unlawful lawful order.

Again, you're behind the times. The new law you've got such an anti-chubby for was stricken in 2008: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...ments