Apple Ipad

[Red coupe]

Kind of an insane argument. I can easily rest the iPad on my lap. Just because it is a tablet does not mean I must hold it above my head. I haven't tried reading in bed yet, but I will soon. The weight may get annoying (though I wouldn't say 1.5 pounds is closer to 3), but I won't know that until I try it. I may have to try resting it on my chest while reading in bed, but once I test it out I'll give better feedback.

For the record, this entire post was typed on the iPad. It would've been faster on my netbook, but I typed while watching the hawks on tv. Either way, it is doable.

If you are laying in bed, unless your standing it on edge reading it in your lap is gonna be hard. It just seems that your statement that you can't read a laptop in bed, but you can read a heavy piece of electronics that wont stand up on its own is a bit backwards.

Glad its working for you... but honestly

For the record, this entire post was typed on the iPad...Either way, it is doable.

This really says a lot. That fact that inputting a paragraph of text is a noteworthy accomplishment really shows its usefulness in that realm.

[AppleBonker]

Like I said, haven't tried reading in bed yet. I usually don't prop my head up too high, so I have to bend my neck down a lot to see the laptop screen. With that said, I'd have to hold the netbook up as well, and I'd rather hold one and a half pounds than three. Plus, the screen orientation is less than ideal for that use. Once I do some reading, I'll offer a better opinion.

That fact that inputting a paragraph of text is a noteworthy accomplishment really shows its usefulness in that realm.

Didn't mean to make it seem like an accomplishment. But I am actually agreeing with you. For long typing sessions, this is a terrible choice. I would obviously switch to my netbook/laptop/desktop. As I've said before, I think my needs are unique. I honestly don't think this is a good buy for most people. To everyone who asks about it, I'm strongly recommending a netbook over the iPad. But I've already got one, and this fills a different need for me.

[Red coupe]

btw, don't take my comments/criticisms as trying to tell you what you should of buy, or that your doing it wrong... Just reading and replying with my thoughts here...Sounds like your taking it the right way though.

[AppleBonker]

btw, don't take my comments/criticisms as trying to tell you what you should of buy, or that your doing it wrong... Just reading and replying with my thoughts here...Sounds like your taking it the right way though.

Your thoughts/opinions won't piss me off, don't worry. I'm a gadget geek, so I do my research before buying. I do enjoy having open discussions about these things though. Hopefully people who are thiking of buying an iPad can read all of these opinions and make a more educated decision. I still agree that this isn't a very robust device. Of the 500k or so that have been bought so far, I would bet that 90% of the owners would have been better off with a netbook or cheap laptop.

I'm also hoping that people will ask me questions so I can find new uses for this thing. I'll gladly be a test subject for uses that people think they might have. We all benefit that way.

[AppleBonker]

I should also mention, no one should take my opinion as a promotion of the iPad. I think I've been clear on that, but I wanted to reiterate it. Most people would be better off with a different option.

[Jesda]

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PURSUING CONVERGENCE. INSTEAD WE'RE ENDING UP WITH 20 DEVICES TO DO THE SAME SH(T: WATCHING p0rn AND MAKING SMARTASS COMMENTS ON YOUTUBE.

i mad

[initial_jc]

ifap.to

your iphone p0rn solution

[RCA]

OS 4.0 is set to allow Multitasking on the iPad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdljV2uEs1A
Modified by RCA at 6:15 AM 4/11/2010

[AppleBonker]

OS 4.0 is set to allow Multitasking on the iPad

Yup, but 4.0 won't be out for the iPad until the fall, not the summer when it is released for the iPhone.

Also, an update on a previous response of mine. My iPad does charge when connected to the computer, but not when the screen is on. If I have it plugged in and go to sync something, the screen turns on and says not charging. But, I left it plugged in for a while after the sync was complete (I walked away and did something else) and when I came back the battery level was higher. Given that the most expensive ipad is 64 gigs, I can't imagine anyone actually syncing for more than about 40 minutes. So, to me at least, it seems unlikely the battery will die while connected to a computer. Unless, of course, the computer being used is a laptop. That might be different.

[PoorManQ45]

Getting the netbook takes a lot longer (and the required task generally takes far less time than actually booting the netbook).

Do you not use S3 sleep state? Uses almost no battery, but turns on within 4 seconds.

I have used netbooks before. They're usually kept closed on the end table

[AppleBonker]

I generally don't have it sleep indefinitely. When I'm done using it, it usually gets turned off and placed back on my desk (and plugged in to power/router). When I'm on the couch and think about using it, at that point it will take longer since I need to get off the couch and unplug it, bring it back and boot it up. I know it's trivial, but it's purely due to laziness.

After reading for a bit this weekend, I can say th iPad is well designed for books/magazines. Zinio has a great app for the iPad which allows me to get the three major auto mags (Car & Driver, Automobile and Road & Track) for only about $8/year each. I haven't had any issues with the weight yet, but it might get a bit annoying for someone smaller than myself.

[PoorManQ45]

I generally don't have it sleep indefinitely. When I'm done using it, it usually gets turned off and placed back on my desk (and plugged in to power/router). When I'm on the couch and think about using it, at that point it will take longer since I need to get off the couch and unplug it, bring it back and boot it up. I know it's trivial, but it's purely due to laziness.

Look into ASUS laptops, and a few others, that offer the instant on feature. It gives you a gui interface with minimal options. Basics like web surfing, reading email, opening files...

[initial_jc]

so you did get the ipad?

[AppleBonker]

so you did get the ipad?

Yup.

Look into ASUS laptops, and a few others, that offer the instant on feature. It gives you a gui interface with minimal options. Basics like web surfing, reading email, opening files...

See above. Also, I already had a laptop and netbook and desktop. This was really more for the form factor than anything else (couple that with battery life and I don't see any future products that even compare).

[initial_jc]

awwww lucky im waiting till august after i graduate, i hope by that time the iphone os 4 will be included on it

[AppleBonker]

awwww lucky im waiting till august after i graduate, i hope by that time the iphone os 4 will be included on it

I'm doubting it. It's supposedly coming in the fall to the iPad. They've been slow before on some of these things, so I'm guessing late fall is a safer bet. As I said on the previous page, if you have any usage questions or stuff you want me to test, I will and let you know the results (though I'm not about to drop $10 on an application I have no plan of using).

[PoorManQ45]

(couple that with battery life and I don't see any future products that even compare).

I feel sorry for you.

You really are suckling at the Apple teet.

Computer manufacturers have had laptops with up to 19 hour battery life atleast a year. And that's a full functioning system!

[AppleBonker]

I feel sorry for you.

You really are suckling at the Apple teet.

Computer manufacturers have had laptops with up to 19 hour battery life atleast a year. And that's a full functioning system!

You seriously are retarded, aren't you? You quoted me, but you selectively removed this:

This was really more for the form factor than anything else

That is the important part, hence the "more ... than anything else" part. I have a netbook that will run for ~10 hours on one charge. So battery life wasn't the priority. Read my previous posts in this thread and it will make more sense (I know you're basically illiterate, but give it a shot). I have specialized products for various needs; I wasn't looking for an all-in-one solution. I've stated many times in this thread that most people interested in the iPad would be better served with a laptop or netbook. I asked for other tablets out there that would do the same things and have the same battery life. All of the suggestions offered extra capabilities that I will never use the device for at a reduced battery life. I sacrificed functionality for battery life because I have other options that offer me those capabilities.

If claiming that I'm now sucking on the "Apple teet" makes you feel better about not wanting the iPad, have at it. I'm not trying to convince anyone to buy it. In fact, I generally do the opposite when people ask. Now, there are new rumors that Google may be entering the tablet market with an Android device. That may offer the same functionality, but it's still just a rumor and there is no other information out there. I can't imagine we'd see that product anytime soon.

Anyway, thanks for playing.

[Doc750]

I love mine. Honestly the only time I use my laptop now is to pay bills, and to make power point presentations for work (microsoft office).

I downloaded a program called NTRconnect for free. So it gives me access to my computer at home if need be.

I love the instant on, quick speeds, and instant off functionality.

Isn't it just a big ipod touch? Absolutely it is. Which is why I love it. I hated squinting and scrolling through web pages on my phone. Now everything is laid out clearly.

Is it for everyone? Absolutely, they just don't know it yet.

[AppleBonker]

New nico works on the iPad. This message confirms it.

[Alfador]

I'm still waiting for a slate computer that is black and comes with an OS skin that makes it look like the old datapads in the Star Trek TNG/DS9 series. I'm such a damn nerd.

I'd never get an iPad though. If people want to get one, whatever to them, but for me, the integral battery concept is the most asinine idea ever. I don't even give a rat turd if the battery replacement was free; it just feels stupid to give up a device for some amount of time in order to get around what is obviously planned obsolescence.

[initial_jc]

i cant wait till they jailbreak it.

[RobPaulson]

dont worry adam, i get it.

There is a difference between:
- fanbois who save for 6 months and can barely afford an Ipad, buy one anyway, just because its the in thing. These are the people we make fun of.

- people who understand the functionality and limitations of the device, and have the expendable income to invest in it because it is useful to them.

Once you acknowledge the limitations of an apple device as being true, imo ur not a fanboi. fanbois blindly follow and get on their knees.

[AppleBonker]

dont worry adam, i get it.

There is a difference between:
- fanbois who save for 6 months and can barely afford an Ipad, buy one anyway, just because its the in thing. These are the people we make fun of.

- people who understand the functionality and limitations of the device, and have the expendable income to invest in it because it is useful to them.

Once you acknowledge the limitations of an apple device as being true, imo ur not a fanboi. fanbois blindly follow and get on their knees.

Glad there are sane people out there. I'm tired of hearing the Apple rage:
"you know that's just an oversized itouch, right?"
"why'd you buy that? it's a waste of money"
"you should've bought a netbook"

Honestly, the amount of comments from people trying to convince me I'm wrong are astonishing. The funny thing is, I'm not trying to push the purchase on anyone. I don't recommend the iPad to hardly anyone. I don't claim it's the greatest device ever. Yet those with the opposite opinion feel the need to shove it down everyone else's throat. Whatever...

[Alfador]

Glad there are sane people out there. I'm tired of hearing the Apple rage:
"you know that's just an oversized itouch, right?"
"why'd you buy that? it's a waste of money"
"you should've bought a netbook"

Honestly, the amount of comments from people trying to convince me I'm wrong are astonishing. The funny thing is, I'm not trying to push the purchase on anyone. I don't recommend the iPad to hardly anyone. I don't claim it's the greatest device ever. Yet those with the opposite opinion feel the need to shove it down everyone else's throat. Whatever...

Well there's always plenty of douchey behavior on both sides of this argument. Like I said before, if someone wants it, whatever. It's their money, they can spend it how they want. Personally I feel like owning an iProduct is issuing an open invitation for Steve Jobs to step on your nuts, but not everyone feels that way obviously (some do and just don't care, too).

[AppleBonker]

Well there's always plenty of douchey behavior on both sides of this argument. Like I said before, if someone wants it, whatever. It's their money, they can spend it how they want. Personally I feel like owning an iProduct is issuing an open invitation for Steve Jobs to step on your nuts, but not everyone feels that way obviously (some do and just don't care, too).

True, and I wasn't referring to you in my previous post. I still think there are more comments along the lines of "this is the worst product ever, why would you buy it?" than "this is great, everyone needs to have one".

Apple is definitely restrictive. I would never run any apple OS on a real computer. On a portable (sub-computing) device, I'm not as concerned.

[RCA]

Is it for everyone? Absolutely, they just don't know it yet.

The conversation between RobPaulson and AppleBonker pretty much sums it up, but comments like the one I quoted bothers the hell out of me :x

[AppleBonker]

but comments like the one I quoted bothers the hell out of me :x

I own the device and I couldn't agree with you more. I really don't think it's for everyone.

[SanJuNi]

I like my iPad so far, had it for four days. Been using it at school for taking notes and also got my textbooks on it using the CourseSmart app. Some might say multitasking is needed for that, but it's really not. Switching from my textbook to Pages is about 3 seconds total, very simple, a bit of a pain, yes, but whatever. Oh, and to naysayers of the touch keyboard, it works excellent for taking notes, much faster than hand writing them. Being overseas military it will come in handy on long flights too, but I mainly bought it for school.

Seems most sites are filled with hate, but like someone said above, I know the limitations of its functionality and most of the limitations don't bother me one bit, I don't care about Flash, can't remember the last time I plugged a USB device into my laptop, and I don't chat on webcams.

Sooooooo, it's great for me, does everything I need it to and more.

[AppleBonker]

Oh, and to naysayers of the touch keyboard, it works excellent for taking notes, much faster than hand writing them.

Shorthand notes win every time. I can handwrite notes faster than on any keyboard, real or touchscreen. I would strongly disagree with the above comment. But, if you're going to use the iPad for typing, get to an Apple store and try out a demo model. Judge for yourself.