Anyone tried a 30-pin iPod to Bluetooth adapter?

[jiggersplat]

I'm looking at getting one of these to stream audio from my android phone... the cablejive one claims to support the dock controls so it's possible that I'd be able to pause/play/skip from the factory audio controls. My only question is, does anyone know if the factory iPod harness in the center console provides power?

http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockboss-air.html

http://wavejamr.com/

[TXT]

I'm assuming you have an 08+ M. Those are the only ones with factory installed 30pin iPod adapters.

I have on 06 with aftermarket unit that connects to the back of the radio. I have bought 3 different types of those Bluetooth receivers on amazon and have connected it. There is power that comes through and was able to power up the receiver. I successfully connected to it, but sound would not come out of speakers no matter what I tried.

Try buying one on amazon, there very cheap (20 bucks or less). It should power it up but I'm not sure if sound would would work. Worth a shot!

[jiggersplat]

Correct, I am talking about an 08 with the factory iPod integration. And yeah, I just keep seeing things like the Scosche passPORT which seems to step down the voltage from 12v to 5v. Not sure if I need one of those or not or if I will need to rig up external power somehow. Then I have also seen a few comments about digital audio vs. analog audio on the 30-pin harness and these things seem to work with some docks and not others. I guess I will just have to buy a handful of them and see if any of them work and return the rest.

[TXT]

I did some research in the past, some thorough research. The main hurdle i was coming across was the digital vs analog audio.

The aftermarket ipod integration and the 08+ integrated ipod cable are all digital. I've come to that conclusion because of the fact that when I connect my iPhone, the name of the songs appears on the screen and I can also control it using the factory controls on steering wheel. Same goes with your factory ipod integration. None of this can be accomplished through analog signals, must all be digital.

As far as docks that have no display, that would be analog because everything is controlled on the ipod itself and the only type of information coming out of the ipod is sound, therefore analog is fine.

I actually tried to find a bluetooth receiver that i was able to confirm had digital audio out but I failed in my attempt to find it.

I abandoned the idea and came up with another solution that others here have used. I don't think I came up with the solution but someone else had it. In the back of the armrest console thingy, the passengers have RCA connections. You can buy 3.5mm audio jack to RCA jack connections. Connect that cable to a blutooth receiver box that is approx. 2.5" x 2.5" L and W. The thickness is 3/4". I'm going off of memory here. That bluetooth receiver gets its power via USB cable so I bought a low profile USB cig lighter adapter that has two slots to power 2 USB. Low profile is key here. Lastly, I bought a ground loop isolator to eliminate that whining sound. That is it. Here is the cool part, I was able to take apart the rear panel with my hands, I took apart the RCA jack assembly and 12v cig lighter that's in the back. I tucked it all inside the armrest thingy and put it all back together.

I'm not home now but when I get home, i'll give you a list of things I bought. It works flawlessly. and sounds great for bluetooth transmission. Only downside is that it doesn't get as loud as I would like. I like my music loud. And yes, ANY sound that comes out of the ipod will transmit through the car speakers which are games, youtube videos or the little ticking sound when you type a msg. Only that that wont transmit is phone calls....but that's another subject

This was all done through amazon. I'll get you a list of things I bought. Total was about 50 bucks.

[jiggersplat]

Yeah, I saw some other threads on adding streaming BT audio to the pre-08 through either the SAT connector or the aux-in. I was hoping to have some control of the audio through the dash.

[jiggersplat]

I just ran across this one, which looks like it could be promising if the cheaper ones don't work. It has good reviews at least, which is more than I can say for most of the other ones.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B52LLJ6/ref ... GO23T1NKED

[EniGmA1987]

I abandoned the idea and came up with another solution that others here have used. I don't think I came up with the solution but someone else had it. In the back of the armrest console thingy, the passengers have RCA connections. You can buy 3.5mm audio jack to RCA jack connections. Connect that cable to a blutooth receiver box that is approx. 2.5" x 2.5" L and W. The thickness is 3/4". I'm going off of memory here. That bluetooth receiver gets its power via USB cable so I bought a low profile USB cig lighter adapter that has two slots to power 2 USB. Low profile is key here. Lastly, I bought a ground loop isolator to eliminate that whining sound. That is it. Here is the cool part, I was able to take apart the rear panel with my hands, I took apart the RCA jack assembly and 12v cig lighter that's in the back. I tucked it all inside the armrest thingy and put it all back together.

Is it possible to stream video over bluetooth or does it not have enough bandwidth? That solution sounds really nice but it would be cool if I could connect a tablet wirelessly and stream a video to the car screen as well. I know someone else was trying that with a Chromecast but it didnt work out that well in the end because of it being so wifi dependent.

[jiggersplat]

I agree... in the car I'm replacing with the M I have a 7" tablet mounted in the dash tethered to a freedompop wifi brick that I use for audio/podcasts/nav and obd-ii, streaming to an aftermarket head unit. It's a pretty sweet setup, but the AV system seems like it's basically impossible to replace in the M since it controls everything.

[TXT]

Is it possible to stream video over bluetooth or does it not have enough bandwidth? That solution sounds really nice but it would be cool if I could connect a tablet wirelessly and stream a video to the car screen as well. I know someone else was trying that with a Chromecast but it didnt work out that well in the end because of it being so wifi dependent.

It will stream any sound coming out of your phone or tablet. This is strictly for audio. Their may be another bluetooth receiver out there that can stream both audio and video, but I I have not even looked into it and I don't care about video when I'm driving.

I just used the Red and white cable (left and right audio) and left the yellow un-used.

[TXT]

I just ran across this one, which looks like it could be promising if the cheaper ones don't work. It has good reviews at least, which is more than I can say for most of the other ones.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B52LLJ6/ref ... GO23T1NKED

You know what that's worth a shot. If i had the money and didnt have a solution already I would buy it. If it doesn't work you can always return it pretty easily to amazon and all you pay is shipping back. This is probably the best idea but I just have a feeling it won't work.

[agee]

Just a heads up, the factory 30pin provides power to the older Firewire ipods/iphones. You'll need to get a pass through charging adapter, like the scosche, in order to power the bluetooth device. I tried more dumbed down versions of what you are attempting in the past. I went through about 3 ipod bluetooth adapters before I read a review on amazon that the Infiniti system uses some kind of two way communication with the i-device which the bluetooth adapters just don't support. With that being said, I looked at the ViseeO device, several reviews are complaining that it does not work with Infiniti cars. Plus, I think that device will only connect to apple devices and not your android phone.

Here's an old thread where me and some other people were discussing this same problem. At the time, we think the most reasonable solution is to use the MICCUS RX device plugged into the RCA port. bluetooth-connection-music-play-t575254.html

Someone else recently posted about using a chromecast -> hdmi to RCA converter setup to stream both audio and video. This you would be perfect since you already are using a wifi hotspot, the freedompop wifi brick. You'd need to spend some time configuring everything but you could achieve video/audio streaming through the AUX connections. You would also need to do the GPS hack (I think) to enable video output while you are moving. post6564980.html?hilit=chromecast#p6564980

If you do build out the Chromecast setup, can you take pictures and do a small write up and review?

edit: It's called the navi hack

[jiggersplat]

I saw the Chromecast thread. You'd need an HDMI to RCA converter. Once you have that, it seems like the rest ought to be pretty straightforward. My understanding of Chromecast is that it's also limited to apps that have support built in for it, which most do not. I've never used one though.

I'm sure just straight streaming audio to the aux-in is not difficult, but I was hoping to be able to use the factory stereo controls to some degree.

[jiggersplat]

Opinions on the GROM (satellite emulation) unit? I have one in one of my other cars hooked to the 6-disc changer connector on the factory stereo, but it's not one of the bluetooth units.

http://www.gromaudio.com/store/bt3_adap ... ation.html

[EniGmA1987]

I saw the Chromecast thread. You'd need an HDMI to RCA converter. Once you have that, it seems like the rest ought to be pretty straightforward. My understanding of Chromecast is that it's also limited to apps that have support built in for it, which most do not. I've never used one though.

Chromecast also requires a wifi hotspot in the car, as the Chromecast must connect to wifi to do the streaming. The phone also connects via wifi to the Chromecast, so you cannot use your phone as the wifi hotspot since phones cant be on wifi, connecting to itself over wifi. There are a few phones that can do wifi direct and it may work without a hotspot, but I hear these things are somewhat unreliable.

[jiggersplat]

Understood. I have a hotspot in my car.

[jiggersplat]

Well I ordered the Viseee0 Tune2Air and the cablejive. I'm not hopefully, but I will report back here on the results.

[jiggersplat]

1) Bought a Chromecast. I guess it would work to play music. I was hoping it would do more than that, but the app support is pretty minimal. You still need to get your phone out to do anything so I sent it back. If someone was interested in this, you'd need an HDMI to RCA converter box and power for it, the Chromecast and USB power for it, and a wifi hotspot of some sort. As far as I can tell, they do not support ad-hoc networks. It would at least, get you the album cover/artist info on the nav screen which is nice compared to just the straight 3.5mm BT receiver plugged into the aux port but not worth the extra cost/complexity in my opinion.

2) the CableJive DockBoss & the CableJive pass-through charge adapter was a no-go with the iPod touch I bought. iPod said something about not charging this accessory and the head unit said no ipod connected. Sent it back.

3) The Viseeeo Tune2Air I got wouldn't power up with or without the pass-through charge adapter. Sent it back.

I have the Grom BT3 sat-emu model on order. We'll see if that one works.

[EniGmA1987]

My problem with the Chromecast way was it's reliability. It seemed like the Chromecast would crash at times if more than 1 person was on the wifi network in the car, even if the other devices were not actually connected to the Chromecast. It also would bug out at times and Google Play Music would not play any song through the Chromecast, doing a factory reset of the Chromecast would fix the issue. All in all, a very promising device with a lot of issues in the real world.

[bqt]

I have been talking both with Viseeo (who makes the Tune2Air) and other companies making similar devices.

Unfortunately, none really do what I was looking for, which essentially would be a device you plug into your 30-pin connector in the car, and then your phone is available trhough the stereo. Both control, sound, and track information. None of the companies I talked to seems to really be interested in fixing it either.
The Tune2Air comes closest, in that it do provide the functionality, but only if you have an Apple device. For non-Apple devices, it has some limited functionality only. But worse is that the Tune2Air seems buggy, and at least for me only works about 1 time out of three.

If anyone know of any other devices worth testing, let me know.

For now, I have decided that I will build the device I need myself. I have all the components, and have a prototype running already. Still need to fix a couple of bugs, and then make a neat small pcb and package to have in my car.
Unfortunately, making these things myself don't exactly make them as cheap as some (non-working) options out there. I'd guess the cost for a device ends up at about $150 in the end. Possibly that price could drop some if I bought components for lots of them. Also, it will not be fast actually assembling them. But if anyone would be interested, they can contact me.

Also, if anyone have any questions about more details surrounding all of this, just ask.

Johnny ([email protected])

[jiggersplat]

I'm interested in the details... what functionality are you trying to build? What components are you using?

[Brian35XR]

i ordered the bt45-infi it will be here tomorrow. it adds bluetooth functionality by emulating a satellite signal. it does phone calls and a2dp music as well as display track titles on the radio.

is this what you're trying to do?

[SIK L]

Hey guys,

Has anybody ran the microphone for the BT45-INFI unit? I just installed the unit and it works great, but I didn't take the time yet to try to install the microphone. I'm curious how labor intensive it is to install, as well as any instructions anyone has on how to run the wire, remove seats/door sills, etc.

Any tips/guidance would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

[GeneralTsou]

I have been talking both with Viseeo (who makes the Tune2Air) and other companies making similar devices.

Unfortunately, none really do what I was looking for, which essentially would be a device you plug into your 30-pin connector in the car, and then your phone is available trhough the stereo. Both control, sound, and track information. None of the companies I talked to seems to really be interested in fixing it either.
The Tune2Air comes closest, in that it do provide the functionality, but only if you have an Apple device. For non-Apple devices, it has some limited functionality only. But worse is that the Tune2Air seems buggy, and at least for me only works about 1 time out of three.

If anyone know of any other devices worth testing, let me know.

Also, if anyone have any questions about more details surrounding all of this, just ask.

Johnny ([email protected])

Sorry to revive an old thread, but is it confirmed that a combination of the CableJive DockStubz and a 30-pin bluetooth adapter such as the Viseeo Tune2Air will work with Apple devices? I have an 09 M35x with iPod integration. I want to be able to stream audio bluetooth via the iPod cable.