Anyone here headed to the inaguration?

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Cali 2 Balti G wrote:
The joke I was referring was the original joke - not yours.

This thread was about the inauguration - you somehow connected it to Latinos - and sending money overseas.
I believe it was you that brought up the topic of the Inauguration stimulating the economy. Since your comments and my comments (about who's economy would really be stimulated) were offered well before the "Inauguration Cost" parallel thread in this sub forum was created. I guess that is how we got here.
Comment from a Prior Post wrote:The Latin American immigrants you are stereotyping come to the U.S. laregely because they often cannot make a living in their own country. Why - because the big multinational business and dominant governments take all the resources and leave the common people with nothing. This is why they are willing to risk their lives to come to the US to get up at 4AM or earlier to work for less than minimum wages doing the work that no one else wants to do. All this to support their family - which is why the money is sent home - and they dont as you say - "buy a new car or tv" .
Quote »You do the same thing (send money out of the country) - unless u somehow buy only products made in the U.S. You said u are a coporate type - what kind of business are you in?[/quote]I am in the Student Loan Industry if you must know what kind of business I am in. Which, unless you attend a foreign institution, most like the aid funds are going to an American school. But don't worry, you and I are already bailing my industry out, even before the US Government came to the aid of any of the ailing banks/investment companies.

Quote »I wont argue the historical significance -of the first black president a first generation African (Kenyan) American, who was democratically elected by a broad spectrum of voters reflecting the diversity of the us population.[/quote]Isnt this country great? We have elected another leader of our country and moved our democratic style of government (Constitutional Federal Republic) forward. This is a grand country.

Quote » and The fact that the historical stereotypes used against Blacks/Africans are used in this thread is a further indication of significance of his victory as well as a reminder that racism and the mindsets behind them still exist.

His victory is also evidence that on many levels that same mindset is changing as well - he could not have won if only Blacks voted for him.

He has already been judged - do you think he would have been elected if the majority of people felt he was of poor character? History has already judged him to be worthy of the privildege of holding the position - just like every President before him. Overwhelming majority, no controversy - no chads.

His election is the evidence of so much promise and potential for change for so many. His diversity is also a source of his potential - this is why he is so popular internationally. History in the end will judge Obama on his performance - just like the Presidents before him.

I wouldnt mind participating on a separate thread where a particular issue can be discussed - including actual figures where possible or agreement on facts that should be common knowledge. This is the only way a real discussion can occur - otherwise it is just bs.

[/quote]I would highly suggest that you create a thread (or two) to discuss these topics. Since it's my birthday and I am enjoying some Football after a big meal at Red Robin, I will defer that task to you.bud


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Bubba1 wrote:
+1 My wife ended up attending George HW Bush's inauguration ball. Its a long story how she got the ticket, but she went with a client. The ticket also gave her a great view of the inauguration before it She said it was memorable event worth doing once.
We received invites to the 2004 inauguration, but mom lost the invite and was too late to RSVP.

Reminds me of when she gave away tickets to the world series in 2006 on the assumption that I didn't care for baseball. Argh.

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Cali 2 Balti G wrote:I wont argue the historical significance -of the first black president a first generation African (Kenyan) American, who was democratically elected by a broad spectrum of voters reflecting the diversity of the us population. and The fact that the historical stereotypes used against Blacks/Africans are used in this thread is a further indication of significance of his victory as well as a reminder that racism and the mindsets behind them still exist.
I don't think about race when I vote, but apparently you do. I'm of a family that consists of mostly asians, a handful of whites, and some blacks, and the majority voted for McCain.

I voted for Bob Barr.

History isn't made by being dark-skinned. Its made by achieving things, so we'll see how President Obama does.

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Jesda wrote:
I don't think about race when I vote, but apparently you do. I'm of a family that consists of mostly asians, a handful of whites, and some blacks, and the majority voted for McCain.

I voted for Bob Barr.

History isn't made by being dark-skinned. Its made by achieving things, so we'll see how President Obama does.
Come on now - that is a HUGE ASSUMPtion on your part. you have no idea who i voted for or if I even voted at all. Based on your logic - should I assume that the majority of your family voted for McCain because he is white?

How does acknowledging Obamas ethnicity translate to voting for him because of his skin color. Now - of course there certainly are folks who voted for Obama because he is Black and because of what that represents. AND of course there are folks that did not vote for Obama BECAUSE he is black.

And of course you had the fear propoganda - Obama is Muslin, a terrorlst, not a u.s. citizen, INSERT fear here >________

For the record - if you haven't noticed - Obama is not dark skinned. As far as the achievement - if you dont think winning the Presidential election (one of the most powerful postions in the world) is an achievement then u are in denial. Also the election in and of itself was historically signficant in terms of Women (Clinton and Palin) in presidential politics.

To win that position means that you have been judge worthing of leading the country. The judgement ideally is based on the candidates life up until that point and their potential for the future. Look at the bi-partisanship support he has, heck he even called for the Living Presidents lunch - with Carter, Bush, Clinton and Bush.

And by the way - the fact that this is such a critical time in our history as a country economically, politically, socially etc, serves to underscore the importance of choosing the next leader of the usa.

Your last statement about seeing how well he Obama will do in office - Tomorrow is day one.

The election and performance on the job are two separate things.


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Cali 2 Balti G wrote: Also the election in and of itself was historically signficant in terms of Women (Clinton and Palin) in presidential politics.
This sits down at the bottom of my give a **** meter right next to race and NASCAR.
Cali 2 Balti G wrote:And by the way - the fact that this is such a critical time in our history as a country economically, politically, socially etc, serves to underscore the importance of choosing the next leader of the usa.
I'm reminded of the scene from the beginning of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

Agent "The Empire is in peril!"Sean Connery "You're probably too young to realize the Empire is always in some sort of peril."


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