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214kka-et240sx wrote:why are you all makin fun of wat i am doin. i just asked if anyone did wat i am doin , but nnooo ,ppl have no respect here

but i think it will be worth it making my manifold,
If you want respect regarding something like this, you need to outline how you actually plan to make this work. For all intensive purposes, doing it this way would probably not leave you with a very ideal manifold. The things you need to consider in all this is how to actually facilitate lining up the pipes to match the SOHC ports. Simply bending it as Supraman suggests would likely leave you with pipes that are slightly collapsed at the bends you make. This is not ideal for airflow. Another possible option would be to cut and reweld the existing pipes, but you may not be able to accomplish it with the existing pipes. In this case, it might just be easier and better to start from scratch.

Another consideration is where the manifold will place the turbo and if clearance will be an issue at all.

Lastly, I don't recall hearing of, or seeing a stanless steel flange from JGS. I checked their website and it appears they only have one part# for the flange, which I am assuming is mild steel. Welding stainless steel to mild steel, I'm told, is not easy. Next, you would also have to deal with expansion issues raised by the stainless steel parts. They expand more than mild steel. And add to that the fact that each of the SOHC KA's flanges share a stud to secure it to the head, it would be impossible to seperate the flange so that each port has it's own flange. Add to that the fact that a flange attached to the head is going to be cooler than the pipes themselves as there is less surface area in contact with the exhaust air and it's contact with the head means much of the heat going into the flange from the exhaust stream will be going into the head. Basically the flange will not be expanding as much as the pipes. This is a recipe for cracking.

In the end, I think you will wish you had not spent the time and money doing this and either bought one that is made for your car from the ground up, or build one from the ground up. Trying to mod such a drastically different mani to fit your needs means you are limited by the mani itself. Starting from the ground up allows you much more flexibility.


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214kka-et240sx wrote:so how is your friend's car doin with this manifold, does it have good top end?

why are you all makin fun of wat i am doin. i just asked if anyone did wat i am doin , but nnooo ,ppl have no respect here

but i think it will be worth it making my manifold,
Who are you to talk about respect... you are constantly flaming other people.

I laugh at the notion of you are better than anyone else on this forum because you can make your own hack-*** parts. Then you continue to try to belittle everyone by stating "I work on my own cars".

Grow up, and open your eyes for once.

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[QUOTE=Nismo_Freak]

Who are you to talk about respect... you are constantly flaming other people.

I laugh at the notion of you are better than anyone else on this forum because you can make your own hack-*** parts. Then you continue to try to belittle everyone by stating "I work on my own cars".

Grow up, and open your eyes for once.[/QUOTE

lmao,lmao,lmao,lmao,lmao . you sound like loveless , you guys are just dramma. close my thread if you want . all you do is talk your bs and make fun off ppl , to make yourself feel better than others.

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214kka-et240sx wrote:lmao,lmao,lmao,lmao,lmao . you sound like loveless , you guys are just dramma. close my thread if you want . all you do is talk your bs and make fun off ppl , to make yourself feel better than others.
Why would I close your thread? I'm not a mod of this forum.

"All you do is talk your bs" - I think you are just disgruntled because you lack the simple ability of creating legable sentences.

Nevermind the fact I could school you on anything involving a 240SX, so it's not like I can't back up my story.

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here we go yet again with the arguements soon to come

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Nismo_Freak wrote:
Why would I close your thread? I'm not a mod of this forum.

"All you do is talk your bs" - I think you are just disgruntled because you lack the simple ability of creating legable sentences.

Nevermind the fact I could school you on anything involving a 240SX, so it's not like I can't back up my story.
lmao lmao lmao. if you say so

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So 214kka... I am just curious: you know there are SOHC manifolds available, right? And, not "everyone" is making fun of you- it started out as serious skepticism, and you became mucho defensive. But CKwik actually invested a fair amount of time writing what I saw as a thoughtful response outlining why it would be actually unwise to do what you are planning- it would be better if you even just started out scratch. And then you still wouldn't be a "soft-hand" but you wouldn't doing something dumb either. A lot of "work" doesn't equal better. But sounds like you think it does. But in fact, it's working on something worthy that makes it valuable. And that project you have decided to do- is not worthy.

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Why is everyone attacking him? In his mind he think he can make it benficial for his car.Whether it will or not that is the question.We can only wait and see how it turns out. He's already bought the products and it's HIS project not anyone elses. He wants to do it and is goign to do it no matter what yall say so it's a pointless arguement.Just support him and hope he's able to find a nice improvement for ours cars. Think when they started making aftermarket parts for our car they were perfect everytime?Research and development.His done some research think he has a good plan and is acting on it.Help with his project don't bash him.What was it that your mother would say to?"If you don't have something nice to say then ......................"

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Florida240sx wrote:Why is everyone attacking him?
originally no one did. I mean, using his way of thinking, why do we even buy already made cars? If we were really into cars, we'd build our own! Even though there are manufacturers out there who build em better and cheaper...

Is that not a nice thing to say? Well sometimes nice gets in the way of truth... however, IMO- I think nice is trying to help someone not throw money down the drain! That's what I would want someone to do for me. Is that crazy?

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Yea but he wants to do it.It's his money, he earned it, let him blow it if he wants to.Just like it's a waste of money to put a keg in my vert that will be on tap.It's a stupid and a waste of $$$ but I want to do it and it's my money.Seems like his build would be cheaper and he is hoping that it will be better.

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DUDE thats pretty cool havin a beer keg in ur car. Wait its a beer keg right? If u do thats like the sickest mod I've seen on a vert. I had vert but crashed it.

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Also couldnt you get in trouble for havin that in your car.

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KaTdaToplesS13 wrote:Also couldnt you get in trouble for havin that in your car.
thats what i was just thinking. wouldnt having it on tap be equal to having open alcohol in the vehicle?

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You posing the question in no way got your ridicule, people told you it was stupid.

"Hey guys, think I can scratch an itch by shooting it with a gun?" "No thats stupid" - similar scenario.

What is getting you made fun of is your inability to just listen to people who actually know what they're doing and talking about.

If you do in fact go ahead and waste you time and money doing this, it might gain you the respect of a few people for some unknown reason, but to the rest it will simply illustrate your ability to waste your own time and money doing something WRONG, which makes you even more of a loser.

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toki wrote:You posing the question in no way got your ridicule, people told you it was stupid.

"Hey guys, think I can scratch an itch by shooting it with a gun?" "No thats stupid" - similar scenario.

What is getting you made fun of is your inability to just listen to people who actually know what they're doing and talking about.

If you do in fact go ahead and waste you time and money doing this, it might gain you the respect of a few people for some unknown reason, but to the rest it will simply illustrate your ability to waste your own time and money doing something WRONG, which makes you even more of a loser.
dude just stfu ur doing nothing but dissing him, he asked if it had been done before, all he was doing was wanting to do something original, not to do what everybody and their mom does, even if the idea is flawed he is still going to do something that nobody else has done. even if it ends up to be a pile of **** he will learn from his mistakes and correct them, ur post accomplished nothing just like mine will not accomplish anything but i just felt like telling you that you have no place in calling him a loser, especially when he can't say anything back since he is indeed banned so leave it at that.

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Another person joins our side.This thing got out of hand .Anywayz I hope I have room to put a keg of beer and coke and the co2 tank.So that if a cop comes I can be like it's just soda.But being that a cop won't see it unless I'm parked and we are having a good time it would be simple open container tickets not relating to my car.
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Guys, argue if you want-- but keep the personal attacks and cursing off the board por favor.

214kka-et240sx, I would appreciate it if you would change your signature so that is is not overly negative to our moderators and members. What I mean by this is do it, or we will do it for you. As far as the argument, I understand you feel you need to protect your idea, but take into consideration the people who have calmly posted well thought out responses to your idea. We have quite a bit of collective experience on this board, it would probably serve you well to listen to some of it.

Everyone else: good job in keeping your cools and offering solid, considerate advice instead of flaming right off the bat.

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Oh, I see a banned sign under his name.

Finally.

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Sanoill not to start anything but wat do you have against 214kk I know the guy personally and Ive never heard him sayin anythin about you so wats up?

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sanioll wrote:Oh, I see a banned sign under his name.

Finally.
yea i was banned , but now i am here, n e ways, i got my mani made, looks really good, i will post pic of it like on tuesday,

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I have nothing against anyone. I never take anything personally. Its all business babe.

Its just this thread sounded very useless and was leading to arguments. And i dont like seeing dumb arguments.

214kka-et240sx,

we all want to see some pics. i hope benefits outweight money and time spent on it.


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well my mani is done , so it all turned out to be,100 bucks for the mani,50 bucks for a jgs flange, 50 bucks to weld it on, total cost 200$.and it looks damn good,, but like i said , will post pic on teusday, if not wednsday.

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Welcome back! Can't wait for the pix.


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