Another I need personal experience on Rims and offsets thread

[TheBlaiant]

I'll say s13.I don't remember people Saying "S14 coupe."

[PieRat]

Ok .. Ok.. leave my stupidity behind ..

Its a s13 91 240sx coupe.

I liked all the Rota's .. but specifically the Grids and P45Rs other rims which i've looked at by Rota is the circuit 10.

[simmode1]

I'll say s13.I don't remember people Saying "S14 coupe."

The s14 is still a coupe, however. But I agree with you... especially considering his sig. I just want to be sure. How knows? He could have two 240's, like I do.

[TheBlaiant]

By the weekend I'll have two non-running S13's!!!

[simmode1]

OP, the P45R's and Grids are immensely popular on 240's... both s13 and s14. You can't really go very wrong with them... I'll post of some good specs and pics for you in a little bit.

[simmode1]

Let me first reiterate that I think you really should get coilovers first. Overwise, these wheels will still look like crap. You don't have to slam your car... just reduce the amount of wheel gap...

Ok... For you, PieRat... I have to recommend the P45R's in these sizes:-17x9+25 with 215/40/17 all around -Or staggered with 17x9.5+30 in the rear 235/40/17

This is a conservative fitment for ppl who don't want to mess with their fenders.

Now for some pics:

From the thread: zer...age=1

The car in these pics runs 215/45/17 up front and 255/40/17 in the back. I don't really like how his tires look, so I made different/more conservative recommendations for you. As you learn more about wheel/tire fitment, you can experiment with wider tire sizes if you want, like 235/40/17 or 255/40/17.

The Grids offsets are too low for what you want. Sorry.
Modified by simmode1 at 12:50 PM 2/10/2010

[Space Monkey]

If you went up to an 18 inch wheel, you'd need a 35 profile tire and that starts to feel a bit harsh.

This is not true. 18" rims run a 40 series tire just fine. In fact they are closer to the factory overall diameter.

[simmode1]

This is not true. 18" rims run a 40 series tire just fine. In fact they are closer to the factory overall diameter.

Lolz! how do you figure? Stock S13 195/60/15's original total wheel/tire diameter is 24.2 inches. An 225/40/18 tire diameter is 25.1 inches. That's a difference of 3.6%.

But a 235/35/18 has a tire diameter of 24.3 inches. Difference versus stock? .3%.

Use the Tire Calculator next time, homie.http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

[Space Monkey]

My bad! Thought the stock series was a 65...which makes the 225/40/18 a nice fit.

[simmode1]

It's no problem! Like I said... the difference is only 3.6%... which is probably not a big deal. It's probably worth having your speedo a little off in exchange for the comfort that a 40 profile tire gives you...

[PieRat]

Thanks for all of your suggestions.

You recommend 17x9 +25 215/40/r17's ..

I've read that " You may have an issue with the +25 up front and coilovers."

I believe I currently have coilovers installed? The # on them is S63-060-200.

Biggie is running +12 /w 235/45/17's... but i think he needed a slight fender roll...

[simmode1]

Lol... you don't know if you have coilovers or not? Are they height adjustable? Take a picture and let us see. That # you provided doesn't tell us anything.

The car I posted with those 17x9+25's up front is using Megan coilovers and he said the wheels and tire clear the suspension, but it was close with about 3mm of space. If that makes you uncomfortable, you may want to consider and tiny little slip-on spacer... 3mm to 5mm should be just fine.

235/45/17 is too tall of a tire sidewall, IMO. That's why he needed fender work and thats why I recommended narrower tires for you. That way you won't need any fender work. I only said put a 235/40/17 on if you decide to run a staggered setup. Put the 235/40 on the 17x9.5 in the rear. This would stretch the tire and allow ample cleareance of your rear fenders. 17x9+25 with 215/40/17 up front won't have any problems. Just add a tiny spacer up front if you want to.
Modified by simmode1 at 12:56 PM 2/11/2010

[PieRat]

Rear :

Front:

[Space Monkey]

In the second picture it shows the trunk of the strut being threaded. That would be for adjusting your ride height. That is a coil over. The first pic is only springs...I can't tell you anything by that... If it is also threaded then you will be on coilovers. Now clean them off and find out what coilovers they are!

[PieRat]

Front and back are the same ..

Even with the coilovers washed off there are no other markings but those numbers..

I was able to Google it earlier this summer... but I've forgotten the name and google isn't returning a result this time around.

--

On another note: I was able to find a local dealer that can get P-45R 17x9 25 4x114.3 for $742.39+taxesFK452's 215/40/r17's for $141.20/each + taxesRT615's 215/40/r17's for $156.19/each + taxes

[simmode1]

Cool. Seems like all it is well here! Clean of those coils, lower your car some more and post up pics when you install the new wheels!

[E7-S14]

Dont do 215 all round on a 9,thats just gay.

no need for that much stretch.

run a 235/40 ATLEAST on the 9. alot of guys run a 225/40

IMOyou should run:Front: 235/40/17Rear: 235/40/17OR

Front: 235/40/17Rear: 245/40/17

215s will look: Gay, Overstretched, and just not enough rubber on the ground.FYI you'll have .4 inches More rubber on the ground with the 215s.

if your buying 9 inch wheels, upgrade tire width also for maximum performance. if you run a 235, you'll have 1.25 more inches of rubber on the ground.and with a 245 you'll have 1.65 inches over 205s.

a 215 stretch is cool and all, but its useless on a 9 inch wheel.keep in mind the 9 inch wheel measures out at ~230mm's a 235 will be a stretch on the 9.a 215 is just unnecessary
Modified by E7-S14 at 6:03 PM 2/11/2010

[simmode1]

I don't really like the prospect of a 215 on a 9 inch wheel either, but are you absolutely certain he won't need a roll for a 235/40? I wasn't quite sure he could do it without some negative camber, so I threw out 215/40. I would have said 225/40, but that's become a bit of a rare size nowadays...

Myself? I'm planning on running 17x9 with 235/40's, but I'm ok with doing fender work. OP says he doesn't wanna mess with it.

BTW, here's pics for reference:17x9 with a 215/40 up front

17x9 with a 235/40 up front
Modified by simmode1 at 10:49 PM 2/11/2010

[E7-S14]

ooh. okhe doesn't want to roll/pull

Rule of thumb...Make the car FIT the wheels/tires....dont puss out bro.

a 235 on the 9 wont require too much modification.a Roll at most on the 25... i think.just speculating( hadn't done the math/research yet)
Modified by E7-S14 at 10:19 PM 2/11/2010

[ss82480]

Keep in mind s13s have a little less room for fitment compared to s14s.

[simmode1]

Yeah, there's a narrow chance that he won't need a roll for a 235... and that chance is if he selects a tire brand that typically runs small, like Nitto or Nexxen. But he said he's looking at Falken and those run wider than most other brands.

Not only might he need a roll for a 235, he probably also need to hammer the inner fender lining to keep the car from rubbing while in motion or a full lock.

I agree that he should man-up and massage those fenders to fit some 235's on some lower offset wheels. But if he just doesn't wanna do that... 215/40's seem like the only way to me...

But yeah, OP, you can still throw some 235's on your rear 17x9+30's, if you want. that should clear just fine and give you more rear traction. But you wouldn't be able to rotate your tires anymore if you do that.

[PieRat]

Your right Id like to not modify my fenders.

I don't know how and don't want to f$&& up my quarter panels..

I'm re-thinking.. 215/40/17 is a very small tire profile.

What kind of ride should I expect to recieve? The roads around here are not100% but there decent what if I hit a bump is such a low profile suggested?

[simmode1]

Dude... you gotta man up somewhere around here. A 40 profile is 'ok' on ride quality. It'll be harsher than your used to, but not spine-crushing or anything.

Whats small isn't the tire profile, its the tire width... A 215 is pretty dinky. 215 fit square of a 7.5 inch wheel. But if you wanna play it safe, thats your best option.

Also, you may wanna rethink this "I don't want any fender work" thing... I mean, a fender roll is a really simple thing to do and would help alot towards fitting wider tires. But it's your car, so it's up to you.

[E7-S14]

Also, you may wanna rethink this "I don't want any fender work" thing... I mean, a fender roll is a really simple thing to do and would help alot towards fitting wider tires.

like this man says, rolling/pulling isn't to bad.

I've Rolled and Pulled my Fenders and Quarter Panels TWICE. Second time to fit a more aggressive setup. (18x10:) )and both times were done the old fashion way( with a baseball bat/metal pipe/ and a pvc pipe( PVC pipe works great btw)) (Hence, make the car fit the wheels)

but since your unsure about it, im sure there is someone or a company with a fender roller that will roll them for you somewhere in your town.

but a 215 is ok, just not much of an upgrade.the difference in grip quality between a 205 and a 235 is very noticeable.

wider rubber=better .. to a certain degree..but check out rimtuck.com

you can find out exactly what will work and what wont from that site. they also tell you if the user rolled and pulled his fenders.

[simmode1]

I'm not a huge fan of pulling front fenders. I haven't really seen many of them come out looking good. But rolling all your fender? Go for it! You don't even see the change because it's tucked up the underside of your fender.

I'm ok this pulling rear fenders, but thats where you gotta be careful not the dimple your QP. That's what the heatgun is for...

[ss82480]

[E7-S14]

I'm not a huge fan of pulling front fenders. I haven't really seen many of them come out looking good. But rolling all your fender? Go for it! You don't even see the change because it's tucked up the underside of your fender.

I'm ok this pulling rear fenders, but thats where you gotta be careful not the dimple your QP. That's what the heatgun is for...

weird part is, it seems every QP is different.i pulled my front fenders enough to make it NOT noticeable.but its pulled a half centimeter probably

my rear QPs came out pretty good.one side came out Phenomenal! but the other got a small dimple or two on the edge of the fender well(easy fix)but i did do it the old fashion way. and im happy with it.

[DisFrikkenWill]

Anyone know wich one would fit better for a stock body s14? maybe rolled fenders no pull, car dropped on megan streets.

17x9+12 4x11417x9.5+12 4x114

I was thinking about getting the 17x9+12 and putting 225/40 all around.

[PieRat]

Make your own thread.

[simmode1]

Make your own thread.

Hahaha! lolz

Anyone know wich one would fit better for a stock body s14? maybe rolled fenders no pull, car dropped on megan streets.

17x9+12 4x11417x9.5+12 4x114

I was thinking about getting the 17x9+12 and putting 225/40 all around.

S14 would do both easily. So why not get the 9.5's?