Anlasak's '94 G50 Manual Transmission Thread

[Raxephon]

The flex pipe is another great idea, great for the jerry-riggers!!

Its temporary and its either that or no pipes at all.

Besides, I have a few additional things I'm going to do to the exhaust system, so I'd rather make it 1 trip to the exhaust shop and not 3.

Just to save you some time you cant put a Z32 front half on a Q45 rear half. The Z32 center bearing is smaller and the flange is just different.

Yes, you can. But that doesn't mean that it will fit.

The Z32 carrier bearing is smaller and the bracket for it is smaller than the one for the Q45 carrier bearing.

The flange that connects the front half of the Q45 drive shaft to the rear half is the same size flange on the Z32 tt manual drive shaft.

I've already got the modified drive shaft,(Z32 front/Q45 rear), laying under the car right now, just have to wait for one of my friends to help me lift it into place to see if it fits and how far off it is if it doesn't.

Update will be either tonight or tomorrow, depending on how I feel.

Surgery is at 11am, so work on the Q is postponed until whatever they use to sedate me wears off.

[SpartanAir]

This is a really impressive project...as soon as I was interested in the President I thought it would be awesome to throw in a 5 speed manual...the perfect autobahn cruiser!!!

I'm really looking forward to seeing this finished! And please make this thread sticky when it's all done!

[unknown007]

Good luck in surgery hope everything goes well.

[elwesso]

intersting, the guy must have sold me an N/A driveshaft when i thought i had a twin turbo.

What did you do for the mounts?

[Raxephon]

What did you do for the mounts?

Unfortunately nothing yet.

I've been ill since the operation and any kind of movement with my left hand hurts like a S.O.B.

As soon as I can I'll be putting another update with pics, only thing holding me back at the moment is that I'm limited to using 1 hand.

On a side note I have been tinkering around with the idea of using the brake/clutch pedal assembly from an RX7 that I have laying around.

Not that I'm going to use it, just wondering what pedal feel would be like in the Q45 compared to my RX7.

[Raxephon]

Good luck in surgery hope everything goes well.

Thanks unknown.

Not sure what they did exactly since they knocked me out cold for the procedure. I'm told that the intense pain that I'm in, after the fact, is normal.

They stuck me on something called oxycotin that apparently has no effect on me whatsoever.

When wifey found out what they gave me for pain, she said that apparently some people who take these things end up having to go to rehab and/or methadone clinics to get off the stuff.

I'm not sure why since these things can't even reduce the pain in my wrist by the slightest amount, let alone cause me to want to consume them regularly.

Anyway, the updates a coming, just bare with me a little longer everybody.

[maxnix]

Carpal tunnel? Oxycontin will dope if you do 3 or 4 a day for a week.

One at night to sleep should not hurt.

Hope all is well soone.

[Raxephon]

Carpal tunnel? Oxycontin will dope if you do 3 or 4 a day for a week.

One at night to sleep should not hurt.

I tore some tendons loose in my wrist lifting too much weight at one time at work. Somehow gave myself tendinitis at the same time as well as some thing else that I don't recall at the moment.

I tried taking it just before bed as well, unfortunately I still wake up randomly in immense pain throughout the night.

I stopped taking them altogether after day 3 of no results.

[Raxephon]

Bad news for anyone using a Z32 tt manual transmission for this swap, its too big for the Q45 (G50) tunnel.

You will have to modify/cut the tunnel, to some degree.

Also you'll be looking at a 65" drive shaft from transmission rear seal to the flange on the factory Q45 differential.

I haven't made much progress since I picked up a new,(to me), '94 for $1k yesterday.

Current progress involves modifying the the mounting point for the egr to accept the IACV.

I've already flashed an early G50 ecu with a "no emissions" rom so the EGR isn't necessary.

[maxnix]

1.) Bad news for anyone using a Z32 tt manual transmission for this swap, its too big for the Q45 (G50) tunnel.

You will have to modify/cut the tunnel, to some degree.

Also you'll be looking at a 65" drive shaft from transmission rear seal to the flange on the factory Q45 differential.

2.) Current progress involves modifying the the mounting point for the egr to accept the IACV.

3.) I've already flashed an early G50 ecu with a "no emissions" rom so the EGR isn't necessary.

1.) That's certainly valuable information.

2.) Not clear to me why this is being done?

3.) If you don't ever cruise on the highway and don't mind losing 10% efficiency there.
Modified by maxnix at 11:09 AM 3/15/2009

[Raxephon]

Moving the IACV to simplify plumbing.

Fuel economy isn't an issue at the moment, and if it becomes one later corrections will be made.

[elwesso]

could the tunnel be "massaged" a little with a poundometer?

[maxnix]

Moving the IACV to simplify plumbing.

Again, I am not sure what is gained. Two less hoses?

[SuperHatch]

If you decide to continue and get the trans to fit, this might make plumbing your clutch easier...

http://www.z1motorsports.com/p...=3037

Just thought I'd try to help.

[Raxephon]

If you decide to continue and get the trans to fit, this might make plumbing your clutch easier...

http://www.z1motorsports.com/p...=3037

Just thought I'd try to help.

Thank you.

Any and all help is appreciated.As well as criticisms, (this means you Brian ),.

I'm running an RX7(FC) clutch master-to-slave hardline, it actually fits perfectly.

Unfortunately to get the pedal at the postion and angle that I wanted it at I had to cut some more sheet metal than expected. Its not an exceptionally structural area so a cover plate should work out just fine.

(Yes, this means I have all the m/t swap pedals and cylinders mounted, and except for the lack of fluid, functioning appropriately.)

could the tunnel be "massaged" a little with a poundometer?

Massaging the area that the starter for the Z32 transmission sits in is easy, maybe an inch at the most, but mostly from the side.(And you cannot tell any difference in the foot well sitting in the passenger seat)

The transmission itself though requires cutting out an opening in the center of the tunnel, just underneath the duct work for the floor vents in the center of the dash and in front of the shifter.(I've relocated the airbag components from that area as well)

Its really not as bad as it sounds, but I don't want anyone jumping into this by what I've posted and suddenly discover that its more than what they expected it to be.

Not to jump the gun too soon on this "little" project, but I can already feel that its going to be frickin awesome to drive.

Again, I am not sure what is gained. Two less hoses?

Brian, that post, and correct me if I'm wrong, leads me to believe that you don't work on Q motors very often.

Also, try to remember that this thing is going to be far from stock by the time I'm done, I didn't buy a heavy duty clutch for sh%t$ and giggles. (Think Eaton, and then think M90 )

Sorry for the lack of updated pics, I'll get some eye-candy up for those of you who are interested later tonight.

[thejapino]

The transmission itself though requires cutting out an opening in the center of the tunnel, just underneath the duct work for the floor vents in the center of the dash and in front of the shifter.(I've relocated the airbag components from that area as well)

Its really not as bad as it sounds, but I don't want anyone jumping into this by what I've posted and suddenly discover that its more than what they expected it to be.

So that area the the top/center of the tunnel can't be 'massaged to fit' like the place for the starter? How much interference are we talking about there?

BTW, eye-candy is always welcome

[maxnix]

Brian, that post, and correct me if I'm wrong, leads me to believe that you don't work on Q motors very often.

Just what's on top. Doing the plenum rehabilitation now. Never go internal as I have neither the skill nor facilities.

Like I said, I don't see how elimination of two hoses is worth it.

The transmission tunnel spacing is much more critical as that is tructurally very important.

[elwesso]

The transmission itself though requires cutting out an opening in the center of the tunnel, just underneath the duct work for the floor vents in the center of the dash and in front of the shifter.(I've relocated the airbag components from that area as well)

Its really not as bad as it sounds, but I don't want anyone jumping into this by what I've posted and suddenly discover that its more than what they expected it to be.

Hmmm doesnt really sound like a big deal once the dash and carpet is out...

[thejapino]

Hmmm doesnt really sound like a big deal once the dash and carpet is out...

Bummer, I wasn't planning to remove the dash. I'm hoping my BFH will do the job.

Wes, for your adapter plate, would it not be wise to cut off part of the adapter plate for the starter nose clearance? I'm guessing it would weaken the plate too much but dropping the transmission to change the starter sounds like a 'minor' inconveniance.

[Raxephon]

Updated with pics on first page

[elwesso]

so did you have to bend the clutch pedal or did you leave that stock? Brake pedal looks like oyu just put the Z32 arm into the Q bracket?

[Infinitiguy19]

Wes you better start catching up becase all he need is the drive shaft and he has a 5 speed Q45.

[Raxephon]

so did you have to bend the clutch pedal or did you leave that stock? Brake pedal looks like oyu just put the Z32 arm into the Q bracket?

Clutch pedal is stock.

Brake pedal is Q45 bracket with Z32 bar/pedal.

Added "L" shaped brackets for the brake lamp switch.

.... all he need is the drive shaft and he has a 5 speed Q45.

Yes, but hopefully this will inspire others who want a 5-speed Q to push forward as well.

The funny/ironic part is that I'm still quite injured, I simply refuse to give up. I am nothing special, so others should be able to accomplish the same if not more refined/perfected versions of this swap in the future......at least I hope so.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I simply refuse to give up. I am nothing special, so others should be able to accomplish the same if not more refined/perfected versions of this swap in the future......at least I hope so.

And we REALLY appreciate it.

[elwesso]

any word if the Z32 driveshaft will work?

[Raxephon]

any word if the Z32 driveshaft will work?

Unfortunately the front shaft from the Z32tt is too short for use.

Drive shaft overall length needs to be around 65".

[elwesso]

How are things?

[Raxephon]

How are things?

Been really busy of late, no real chance to even finish the knock sensor/fuel rail/underplenum hose job R&R on the green Q, so the manual swap has been put on the back burner for a few days.

Hell, I still have to send off the plenum bolts for Morgan and never really heard back from Maxnix on the runner that I sent,(if you read this Brian, let me know if you got it in).

I'm still tinkering with going ahead with a top-feed fuel injector conversion while I'm at it but I need to adjust my rom file for the 460cc injectors that I'll be using.(RX7 is getting a VH45DE as well, so I had 8, basically free, 460cc hi-imp injectors for the top feed project)

[sishinthin]

Sorry my hard-working injured nizzle, due to me, my shop, Elwesso's car + loot, a lot of my time, hard work, and the need to pay rent, you are unfortunately going to likely-be the 2nd person to have a running working stickshift Q. My bad. I'm very intersted in knowing how you made the crossmember for the transmission (gotta do that tomorrow)? Do share and so shall I (I got the pedal thing kicked!) Anyhow, I've been away from the internet forums' for awhile, anyone wanna tell me how to add pics to this mess?

[Raxephon]

Um, why sorry?I don't care if I'm the first or the 1000th.

Congratulations, I hope you'll be kind enough to make another thread and share the info you have with the rest of the forum so that others looking to swap in a manual can benefit from it

Transmission cross-member details will be added to this thread when I get a chance, along with other items that are in the works.