Alternative to xenon light?

[koolyce]

Hi,

I don't want to modify my light system to add xenon light and also, because I need to keep my DRL.

I know that some bulb are more "blue" than the original one. Anyone have experience with a new blue bulb?

Which one is good and will give me my mostly or the same lumens?

Thanks

[Leo2005]

Why don't you get aftermarket hid? You don't have to modify anything. Everything is plug'n'play. Just add a ballaster and install a new bulb. Personally I decided to go with factory xenon lights and had to modify the connectors in order to fit.

[koolyce]

Why don't you get aftermarket hid? You don't have to modify anything. Everything is plug'n'play. Just add a ballaster and install a new bulb. Personally I decided to go with factory xenon lights and had to modify the connectors in order to fit.

I read on this forum that with an aftermarket HID kit, the DRL will be a problem.

[Leo2005]

Show me where did u read? As long as I remember from this forum drl in Canada goes to high beam and if u would replace low beam with hid I don't see a reason why it should effect drl on high beam

[koolyce]

Show me where did u read? As long as I remember from this forum drl in Canada goes to high beam and if u would replace low beam with hid I don't see a reason why it should effect drl on high beam

Well, the bulb is the same for high or low, so if I add a ballast for the bulb, the low beam will be affected no?

[Leo2005]

Wrong. The bulbs are different. zerothread/302435

[Leo2005]

Here's some info from that thread:

Well as per the owner's manual, it depends on what your car came equipped with. If it was factory halogen, then you have an H11 low beam. Both, HID and halogen-equipped cars have the same high beam bulb, HB3. -Ed

[philipa_240sx]

I know that some bulb are more "blue" than the original one. Anyone have experience with a new blue bulb?

IMHO, I would stay away from aftermarket 'blue' bulbs. Some of them are cheaply made and actually put out much less light.

'High Output' bulbs like the Sylvania Silver Stars, etc. also have a have a very short lifespan... usually few months.

I strongly suggest read Daniel Sterns Lighting website, lots of fantastic information regarding the 'myths' of 'blue bulbs' and other high output aftermarket headlamps:

http://www.danielsternlighting....html

[koolyce]

Well, it look like I will do the upgrade for the HID and I will need to read on this forum to find all the information about that.

Thanks

[Elton Noway]

Well, it look like I will do the upgrade for the HID and I will need to read on this forum to find all the information about that.

You'll find some good information as well as photos of aftermarket kit installations this thread:

zerothread?id=343711

[koolyce]

You'll find some good information as well as photos of aftermarket kit installations this thread:

zerothread?id=343711

Thanks.

But I read from philippe that is not legal to modify this in Canada, so I will check. Also, it is hard to find the "perfect" kit for the upgrade.

[koolyce]

Ok, if I resume.

My model (canadian), have H11 low beam, so I need a kit for H11.

My high beam are ??? but my DRL is running on which bulb?

I'm just a bit confused about everything I read and I don't want to order the wrong thing.

Thanks everyone.

[koolyce]

Another question:

In the post, they have a link to a web site to order the conversion kit.

In the option, they have: DRL/Warning Module

I need that?

[Elton Noway]

Another question:

In the post, they have a link to a web site to order the conversion kit.

In the option, they have: DRL/Warning Module... I need that?

I'm hoping Pescakl1 will see this thread and offer you his advice. As you may have noticed his signature shows he's from Montreal Quebec. In one of his threads he said 3B was very responsive to his emails and was able to answer all his questions. If Pescak1 doesn't see this thread or respond, you might want to shoot an email off to 3B on your Warning Module question. http://shop.3bspecialties.com/H11-Kits_c37.htm

[harryg]

i havent done a aftermarket hid kit, but am planning to in the futurei also have DRL's(canadian)

and the best option in my opinion would be to leave the DRLS as a halogen bulb, and change just the night time driving low beams (H11 low beam) to xenons, with this you will still be able to flash other drivers with ur high beams(drl bulb)

also if u do change out ur drls for halogens u will lose the ability to flash others, and the constant on/off of the drls will greatly shorten the lifespan of the bulbs,

[koolyce]

I'm hoping Pescakl1 will see this thread and offer you his advice. As you may have noticed his signature shows he's from Montreal Quebec. In one of his threads he said 3B was very responsive to his emails and was able to answer all his questions. If Pescak1 doesn't see this thread or respond, you might want to shoot an email off to 3B on your Warning Module question. http://shop.3bspecialties.com/H11-Kits_c37.htm

I received the answer from 3bspec (fast answering)

"The DRL/Warning module is primarily used on cars that use the low beams as the DRL bulb. There's also a limited number of cars that where it will clear the lamp out light inside the car.

If your car uses a separate bulb for the DRL's, then it's a non-issue."

So no need for Canadian model.

[philipa_240sx]

"The DRL/Warning module is primarily used on cars that use the low beams as the DRL bulb.

This is incorrect.

but my DRL is running on which bulb?

The DRL's in the Rogue (and almost all Nissan's for that matter), use the high beam bulbs (The high beam bulbs are the ones located closest to the grille). They are connected in such a way that for DRL use, they burn at half brightness. Go ahead, check for yourself!

You can safely swap your low beam bulbs for whatever you like (HID's... whatever) and not lose your DRL's. But leave the high beam bulbs alone!

But I read from philippe that is not legal to modify this in Canada, so I will check.

It is not illegal to buy HID retrofit bulbs/kits. However, they are illegal to use on public roads in both Canada and the USA. They are sold for 'show' or 'competition' use only.

[Pescakl1]

i havent done a aftermarket hid kit, but am planning to in the futurei also have DRL's(canadian)

and the best option in my opinion would be to leave the DRLS as a halogen bulb, and change just the night time driving low beams (H11 low beam) to xenons, with this you will still be able to flash other drivers with ur high beams(drl bulb)

also if u do change out ur drls for halogens u will lose the ability to flash others, and the constant on/off of the drls will greatly shorten the lifespan of the bulbs,

Harryg summed up very well all the information in one post .

You need to order a H11 HID kit for your low beams (3B or V-LEDs are two good references). To get the most light output, order the 4300K kit. Higher you will go, less light you will get (they filter the light to get it whiter).

No need of the DRL/warning module.

Don't change the high beam to HID, keep them halogens. If you want, you can use blue bulbs to get them whiter (or blue if you go too far) if you want (but you will get less output).

Illegal? Yes, they are, but did you notice that about one third of the cars running right now are illegal. If you want to stay as unnoticeable as possible, keep your kit as close as possible to 4300K.

[koolyce]

Thank for reply.

I was thinking about ordering the 5000k because it look like more bmw/audi/etc... hid light.

4300k look like my halogen...

[koolyce]

Am I'm right about the 5000k vs 4300k?

Thanks

[Leo2005]

Get 5000k. Aftermarket kits don't have 4300k. Also 5000k will be whiter when 4300k will be kinda yellowish. Not a big difference anyway. Mine are 10000k and its more like blue.

[Pescakl1]

Thank for reply.

I was thinking about ordering the 5000k because it look like more bmw/audi/etc... hid light.

4300k look like my halogen...

I have a 4300K kit, the most light output (no filter on the bulb).If you want whiter, get a 5000K kit, but you will get less light output.

[koolyce]

I have a 4300K kit, the most light output (no filter on the bulb).If you want whiter, get a 5000K kit, but you will get less light output.

I will see a big difference?

Is the 4300k whiter than the halogen?

[Pescakl1]

It depends on your sensitivity to colors: You should see that 5000K is whiter than 4300K, but mostly when you will compare them.Alone, your brain will trick you to see the light differently.

For me, when I look at my 4300K kit, I see it white. Some find it still too yellow. I am more sensitive at seeing differences between 4300-5000K and 6-7000K that I find way too much blue to my taste. White LEDs are usually in the 6-7000K range and I don't like them.

Halogen bulbs are tungsten bulbs, therefore 3200K. There is a big difference with 4300K, visible to the eye for me.

It is up to your taste and sensitivity.

[Elton Noway]

Get 5000k. Aftermarket kits don't have 4300k.

Maybe I'm confused. I thought this was one of the 4300 kits members have been referring to: http://shop.3bspecialties.com/...rnt03

Mine are 10000k and its more like blue.

You're a brave man... I'd fail vehicle inspection for sure with those...
Modified by Elton Noway at 5:40 PM 9/2/2009

[Leo2005]

That's something new for me Elton. I thought it is only for factory but I guess I was wrong. I thought so because I found no 4300k aftermarket on ebay nor on v-leds.com Also I see they offering 50w ballasters. Never seen these before either.

[koolyce]

A dumb question...

What is the purpose of changing halogen to xenon if the lumens is less (with 5000k) ?

[Pescakl1]

Because with xenons (HID kit), you have still way more lumens than halogen.

H11 halogen bulbs give about 1350 lumens each.Xenon bulbs of a HID kit (no filter so 4300K) give about 3200 lumens each.So, with 5000K xenon bulbs, you will get about 3000 lumens, still way more than halogen.

But, I have an easier solution for you if you don't want to go with an HID kit: H9 Halogen with enriched Xenon bulbs.Check this forum for more information:http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=119161

You can find these bulbs (or any other H9 bulbs) easily on Ebay.

It is easy to do and you get more than 2100 lumens without having to go to an HID kit.

[koolyce]

Ok thank.

Well, I think I wil go with HID because the "plug and play" kit seems really easy.

H11 bulb like whant is mention...I'm pretty sure it will burn in a shorter period.

Thanks

[koolyce]

How long HID suppose to live? Did I need to order another pair of bulb?