What kind of Headlight Bulbs are in the Rogue?

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I putting in an aftermarket HID kit for the headlights and need to know the bulb type. What king of bulbs are used in the fogs? I may get a kit for the fogs as well.



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EddNog
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H11; I put in a golden yellow HID kit and it looks sweet!

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Edd, I don't think I've seen pics of your Rogue with the lights on. Post some!

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Are H11 bulbs for headlights or foglights?

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Fog lamps; that's what you need, right? I really don't recommend yellow HID for the regular low beams.

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I'm getting 8000K HID for my headlights, I just want to make sure what bulb style it is.

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stinky240 wrote:I'm getting 8000K HID for my headlights, I just want to make sure what bulb style it is.

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Well as per the owner's manual, it depends on what your car came equipped with. If it was factory halogen, then you have an H11 low beam. If it was factory HID, then it's D2R (although factory color temperature is, as always true for OEM, about 4300 Kelvin). It states in the manual that the fog lamp is also H11 (for cars equipped with the factory fog lamps). Both, HID and halogen-equipped cars have the same high beam bulb, HB3. I was able to replace them with Toshiba HIR bulbs (type 9011, with a quick trim of the keyed flange at the base using left and right tin snips).

Random FYI I noticed that the fog lamp outer cover is engraved with the Valeo brand, so my guess is the fog lamps are sourced from Valeo (as are many other parts of the car, I'm sure--French connection, anyone?).

-Ed

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Apparently here in Canada, I can't get HID's as an option. I have a source for Phillip's HID kits for $125 US. I have a couple of then in my Volvo and work great. After 3 years of use I have yet to replace bulbs and that's using them as daytime running lights.

Thanks for the info.

Kevin

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Do you still have high beams?


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I'm quite sure high beams are on all cars for all markets.

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exeunt wrote:Edd, I don't think I've seen pics of your Rogue with the lights on. Post some!
I did my best to try and take some this evening, but it was cold as hell and raining! These are in 800x600; if you want to see 1024x768, click on the picture.













-Ed

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Hi Ed,I can see the yellow on the pictures taken looking from the car to what they are shining on. It doesn't look yellow looking straight on at the car though. Is that the way it is or are they yellow to the eye, looking at the lights themselves?

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Wow Ed that's dedication, thanks for the pictures. Does this change help your visibility much?

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Jaded TC wrote:Hi Ed,I can see the yellow on the pictures taken looking from the car to what they are shining on. It doesn't look yellow looking straight on at the car though. Is that the way it is or are they yellow to the eye, looking at the lights themselves?
It looks more yellow to the eye in person; the whiteness is due to a combination of auto-white balance and the exposure time (hence the lens flaring and blow-out). If it wasn't raining, I would've used my tripod and manual mode, but I wanted to bang them out quick so I went full-auto, no flash. Funny thing is, this gave a very good impression of how dim/bright the road is lit (it's dark due to the dampness from the rain; in good weather, things would look brighter still).
Ticmxman wrote:Wow Ed that's dedication, thanks for the pictures. Does this change help your visibility much?
Although selective yellow HIDs (~3200 Kelvin, thanks to yellow tint on the bulb) are dimmer than regular, factory-color HIDs (4300 Kelvin, untinted, thus unfiltered), they're still brighter than regular halogen bulbs, so there is an increase in brightness compared to stock in the immediate several feet right in front of the car, and reflective things like signs and markers are lit up farther away, but for the most part the range does not improve much--it's almost more of a cosmetic thing.

I live near the city, so for the most part the stock lighting is pretty good as it is. Up by my home it sometimes gets extremely foggy, and the lamps definitely help, and the brightness of the HIDs does improve things, though I believe installing factory-color bulbs would be more effective than filtered yellow bulbs (more light coming out is more helpful than the yellow wavelength). I always check for excess glare when I swap HIDs in place of halogen and I find that the way the Rogue's fog lamps are designed, installing HIDs does not produce excess glare for oncoming drivers.

I installed 9011 HIR bulbs in my high beams, but I didn't get time to shoot pictures due constraints. Hopefully in the future I might meet up with someone else with an SL Rogue at night I can shoot a comparison shot of stock halogens versus HIR so you can see how much of an improvement to my high beams they provide (~30% brighter, which is definitely noticeable). Not bad at all for $50! Considering the brightness increase, I don't mind the color of the light emitted (since it's based on halogen, it's the same color as stock).

-Ed

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What would I have to do if I wanted to install HID headlights on my Rogue? Is the install durable?

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darrenhawk wrote:What would I have to do if I wanted to install HID headlights on my Rogue? Is the install durable?
Do you mean the lowbeams? Install an H11 HID plug n play kit. The durability depends on the quality of the kit you get.

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I'm looking into changing my light to HID as the lights kind of suck on the Rogue. As previously stated there is no HID option on the Rogue in Canada not sure why as my 06 Maxima has them. The Dealership is looking into it for me.

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Can you drive with just the parking lights and fog lights on? Like the 08 MDX? I have always loved the way that looks coming down the road. Eddnog, where did you pick up your kit, online or local? I am in lower Westchester.

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Bababoosky wrote:Can you drive with just the parking lights and fog lights on? Like the 08 MDX? I have always loved the way that looks coming down the road. Eddnog, where did you pick up your kit, online or local? I am in lower Westchester.
Can't be done if you rely on the factory switchgear, because the fogs won't light when the lowbeams are not activated. If you use a separate switch somewherre you could, but the cut off is much too short, so you'd have to drive really slowly, so it's still not very practical at all. They're fog lamps and have a fog pattern, not auxiliary/driving lamps.

-Ed

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Gotcha, thanks for the info Edd

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I've just purchased a Rogue SL AWD in Canada and there's no option for HIDs I definately will go purchase some aftermarket HIDs but I was wondering how easy is it to install? I know there are plug&play kits but does the Rogue require any special adapters for the bulbs or do I just get the regular H13 kits and they go in the light housing perfectly? Also, for those of you that have after market HIDs, where do you place your HID ballasts? I know it's asking for alot but it'd be great if you can post some pictures of your install from beginning to end. Thanks!!

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EgNyTeR wrote:I've just purchased a Rogue SL AWD in Canada and there's no option for HIDs I definately will go purchase some aftermarket HIDs but I was wondering how easy is it to install? I know there are plug&play kits but does the Rogue require any special adapters for the bulbs or do I just get the regular H13 kits and they go in the light housing perfectly? Also, for those of you that have after market HIDs, where do you place your HID ballasts? I know it's asking for alot but it'd be great if you can post some pictures of your install from beginning to end. Thanks!!
Oops, I meant I need to get H11 plug and play kit correct? haha. . . I guess my concern is that some cars require a special adapter for plugging in bulbs (ie. my old Celica with H7 bulbs. For some reason Toyota added this adapter thinggie which made it so hard to install any HID kits)

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Do any of the kits also modify the housing and lens assembly to ensure proper focus of the beam? I'd like to upgrade to HID, too, but I have concerns about their street legality. I've done some Internet surfing, and the main problem seems to be the scattering effect of a halogen enclosure when using a xenon arc bulb.

Any thoughts on this?

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trusty_getto wrote:Do any of the kits also modify the housing and lens assembly to ensure proper focus of the beam? I'd like to upgrade to HID, too, but I have concerns about their street legality. I've done some Internet surfing, and the main problem seems to be the scattering effect of a halogen enclosure when using a xenon arc bulb.

Any thoughts on this?
The only option is to buy OEM HID headlamp housings (from the US). Be prepared, they are not cheap. The housing alone is about $250 USD per side. The entire assembly (housing, lamp, ballast, etc) is about $630 per side. Even if you were to do the swap, you may have to modify the wiring (the plugs are different) and you will not have the OEM lamp leveling control. HID equipped Rogue's have a manual lamp leveler control on the dash to 're-aim' the beam when the vehicle is loaded.


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Now, THAT is way too much for my pocketbook. Thanks for the info.

Ed: If your monitoring this, how well are your beams focused? Any problems with people flashing their brights at you or other glare problems? I'd hate to buy a plug and play kit only to be pulled over and ticketed.

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trusty_getto wrote:Now, THAT is way too much for my pocketbook. Thanks for the info.

Ed: If your monitoring this, how well are your beams focused? Any problems with people flashing their brights at you or other glare problems? I'd hate to buy a plug and play kit only to be pulled over and ticketed.
Oh don't you worry...I'm monitoring.

My headlamps are factory US HIDs. The plug n play kit is in my fogs, and the fog lamp pattern is way too low to cause glare. If anything, the factory fog lamp pattern is particularly useless, and they serve for the most part as cosmetic accessory (well, depends on how fast you tend to drive in denser fog, rain and snow, actually).

-Ed

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Thanks, Ed. I guess I'll have to continue thinking about the retrofit. If anyone else can comment about whether retrofitted HIDs work well in a halogen enclosure, I'm all ears!

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Can you explain about the FOG lights howto convert the bulbs to a brighter white light than stock.

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rjchoops wrote:Can you explain about the FOG lights howto convert the bulbs to a brighter white light than stock.
The only option that I know is guaranteed brighter is a plug n play HID kit, bulb type H11. I recommend ~4300 Kelvin temperature range so it looks like OEM HIDs (crystal white).

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Since I don't have a fog lights on my rogue I'm planning to buy a set. I saw on eBay led edition. Wanna try it so bad before wasting money on hid fog lights.


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