alright military question.

[stretch240sx]

As you are now, if I understand correctly, you are not obligated for **** until you pass through boot camp. Pick a job and tell them that's what you want or you're not going. don't buy into the "oh but they're cool" bs or you will have a long term ahead of you. don't rush into it, 3-5yrs is a long time to see the world through your azz.

if he signed up for basic already, and he doesnt show up at the recruiter when the bus leaves for BT he's conisidered AWOL or UA, depending on what branch he is, and then hes fuc*ed cause when they find him he spends time in the brig and gets to go in with no choice on what mos he has,

and yes the recruiters will lie to you. my cousin was looking at joining the navy and even before she took the ASVAB the recruiter was telling her that he can get her into the nuclear(SP?) program... im glad she has parents to talk her out of it... but i have recruiters calling me every other day becuase i scored in like the top 5 % or the nation on the asvab... so they are just filllin my *** with smoke.

so get the stuff straightened out and make sure you get your mos down before you leave for basic. and they cant just throw you into any mos just because they dont have a billet for you, 1)there are sooooo many billets (unless you are in some crazy **** like nuclear electritian, that only has a few billets for the whole navy) to take, and 2) if the navy doesnt have a billet for you you go to a shore duty on a base doing something till you get a billet.

[WAbernethy]

I just got out of the AF a couple of months ago. Sucks that you're not locked into a specific career. I don't care what that lying sack of **** recruiter told you, you could get shafted into some crappy job that has nothing to do with electronics. The good news is that you'll probably get in as an E+E(electro-environmental) troop since they are one of the most shorthanded careers right now. Depends on what you got on the ASVAB. That's what I did for 4 years. Not the worst job you could have that's for sure.

[C-Kwik]

It's not exacty just a choice, to "be flying jets", you have to have to get a commsion first, which means a 4 year degree plus, passiong various other pre-commssioning parameters.

Fred...

But it is a choice to jump through all the necessary hoops to become a pilot. Though, for me, my vision started to go bad after my sophmore year in high school. They didn't have lasik back then. And if I were flying, I'd have bombed Osama and Saddam. :pface

[S13 Power]

I plan on enrolling for the Air force next week. Me and my parents have been arguing because my mom thinks ill end up killed or without any arms or legs. My stepdad thinks its all a big joke and they both said i was lazy and im just looking to live off someone else which pisses me off. I want to join as an airplane mechanic or MP, but i dont want to be in the front line of the war. Whats this ASWAB or something like that.

[stretch240sx]

the avab is the Armed forces vocational apptidude battery i think? they judge what your mos can be by the score you make> So make sure you do well on it, study for it.

[WDRacing]

Ok, lets all stop talking trash about things we no absolutely nothing about. First things first, the USAF Does Not Operate like any other service. Second, until you sign the line at MEPS the day before you leave, you can get out. Third, if you come in open electronics, they will stick you in the most lowest mann'ed job in that career field. Like HH-60G Pavehawk electrician or somthing along those lines. I came in open mechanical, I know how it works.

Go to your recruiter and ask for a job listing for all the available jobs the USAF has right now. If he gives you any BS, email me at [email protected] I've been in just over 10 years. I'm pretty sure I can help you out, or point you in the right direction. Heck, if you have any questions shoot me an email.

WD

[WDRacing]

Its ASVAB, its a test so they can establish what carrer field you'll excel in. Once you pick a certain area, then you pick jobs in that area, like above, electrician would be the general, and HH-60G electrician would be the specific AFSC(MOS).

WD

[WAbernethy]

Yeah, but I remember in Basic, guys telling me that they were open electrical and just before we graduated they were all upset because they were going to be SP's. Most likely you'll get something within the electrical area but there is seriously no guarantee. It all comes down to the needs of the AF, if they need you to do something else, you'll be doing it.

BTW I like your tag WD, pretty sick. 33rd what? I was 333rd FS. Or actually just B4 I got out I guess they did that stupid reorg and I became 4AMXS. What a load of sh*t, it was better the other way. At least out fighter squadron still took care of us like their own. Still got my incentive ride in Nov.

:jet:

Not exactly an F-15, but close enough.

[nrcooled]

if he signed up for basic already, and he doesnt show up at the recruiter when the bus leaves for BT he's conisidered AWOL or UA, depending on what branch he is, and then hes fuc*ed cause when they find him he spends time in the brig and gets to go in with no choice on what mos he has,

and yes the recruiters will lie to you. my cousin was looking at joining the navy and even before she took the ASVAB the recruiter was telling her that he can get her into the nuclear(SP?) program... im glad she has parents to talk her out of it... but i have recruiters calling me every other day becuase i scored in like the top 5 % or the nation on the asvab... so they are just filllin my *** with smoke.

so get the stuff straightened out and make sure you get your mos down before you leave for basic. and they cant just throw you into any mos just because they dont have a billet for you, 1)there are sooooo many billets (unless you are in some crazy **** like nuclear electritian, that only has a few billets for the whole navy) to take, and 2) if the navy doesnt have a billet for you you go to a shore duty on a base doing something till you get a billet.

WRONG!!!!!

If you have been sworn in and "sign on the dotted line" then he is obligated. Until then you don't have to ship The recruiters will lie and tell you that you have to go (only to meet their quota) but you don't. Once you swear in and leave for BT then you are stuck. Get all the facts...then make your choice but don't just go off of what some yahoos are saying on NICO.

Do some research and check then re-check info. 4-5 yrs can be really long if you hate your life:( Refuse to ship until they get everything sorted out for you. It sounds like your recruiters are being lazy

[StrongBad240]

What the marines where talking about MOS is your AFSC it basicly means what job field your in. The most inportant thing for you to do right now is to get a job you want locked in on your contract. Don't sign for 6 years right away ethier wait untill your in basic and if you really like it and your bouns is for a lot of money than take it but other wise I wouldn't do it. And if you fail out of your tech school with the job you want on your contract you will have the choice to get out of the Air Force or retrain into something else. If they don't give you a job you want you can just say bye bye. But if you go under a open contract you can end up in a really sh!tty job you don't want. E-mail me if you have an Questions. S 13 Power e-mail me if you have any questions too. I'm in the Air Force, forgot to add that.

[Just another 240]

Cool, thanks guys. I just got back from maryland yesterday so i haven't been posting/reading until now.

Someone said my recruiter was lazy and HELL YEA THEYRE LAZY!!! and i'm already sworn in and signed the contract but within the contract it didn't have any MOS listed down, it was sent to my recruiter a few days later. So i guess after reading all these postes i should call up my recruiter tom and talk to him again. So what do i say? tell him straight up that i want a specific job and not open electronic?

[C-Kwik]

I remember the Army recruiter that kept calling me after high school. I told her I would only join the military if I was drafted or if I were a fighter pilot. I told her of my bad eyesight. She nearly signed her death warrant when she said I could be a navigator on a b0mber. I said a few choice words though and she never called back. =P

[S13 Power]

What happens after you enroll and stuff? Do you went sent to boot camp and then what? Also do you get a regular paycheck? You could say that the main reason i want to join is to get financial aid for school so can i still go to school while doing my service?

[WDRacing]

Yes, a specific job listed on your contract before you actually sign up at MEPS. You can get out until then...but once your processed through MEPS your screwed. Don't buy off on all the "there will be more job choices once your in basic" If he says that, ask him how...How will there all of the sudden be more choices once your in basic. Its easy, there won't be.

WAbernethy The 33rd is a Rescue unit over here in Japan. Up until now I've been in Spec Ops. You don't have to tell me about the ReOrg...I know all about it. Try being the only Helo unit surrounded by, no offense, a bunch of fighter f***.

How did ya know what WD stood for??

WD

[WAbernethy]

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How did ya know what WD stood for??

WD [QUOTE]

I was refering to the other tag about you going down and Bubba coming all over your face. Now that you mention it, what does WD mean?

Did you get put all in one maintenance sq with the fighter guys too? I bet they give you a lot of s***. I know I would. What, with your fancy spinning wings and all.

I got your fighter fag right here buddy.

[StrongBad240]

S13 Power if your going in for money for school go into the reserves and if you like it enough you can always go active duty. You will have little to no time to go to school if you go active. And yes you do get paid every two weeks, check out the air force web site and air reserve for more info if you want. Oh yeah your not locked into doing anything untill you go thur MEPS to go to basic. They will tell you, you are but your not. Don't settle for a job you don't really want.

[SCOOBYSHAG]

Hey guys, just wanted to tell you I am stationed over here in Africa right now. Been in the Marine Corps for over 5 years.

[89240sx]

good luck to ya!!!

keep us safe!

Mark

[fliprayzin240sx]

The good news is, i just found out that i am leaving on Oct. 1st for basic training but the bad news is i didn't get none of the specific job that i picked so right now i'm stuck with the category "electronic" and i would have to pick again within "electronic" after basic training or something. So does that mean i'm stuck with all the stupid/bad job that no 1 wants?

K hopefully this will clear some stuff up for you. Since you came in open electronics...thats the area you can pick from. The job listing under electronics will depend on 2 things. One is how high of a score you got on your ASVAB. Basically the higher it is the more job listing youll get. 2nd is what jobs are actually open depending on the air force 30 day list. Basically theres so much open seats in every class that they need to fill. Electronics jobs in the air force isn't bad. Im actually in my 2nd school for Satellite Communications and Telemetry. Email me if you got any more questions maybe i can clarify it for you. :ylsuper

[WAbernethy]

Hey flip, you siad you're cross training to sat com right? Do you know a guy named Jeff Roy? I think he graduated that school a couple of weeks ago. He was in avionics B4.

[nrcooled]

Hey guys, just wanted to tell you I am stationed over here in Africa right now. Been in the Marine Corps for over 5 years.

That's funny a friend of mine Sgt Ilaoa (big Samoan guy) is stationed in Jabudi Africa starting the tactical DMS system

[fliprayzin240sx]

Hey flip, you siad you're cross training to sat com right? Do you know a guy named Jeff Roy? I think he graduated that school a couple of weeks ago. He was in avionics B4.

Well satcom out in GA or back in MS? Sat comm has 2 school houses. One for Electronic Principles back in Keesler AFB, MS and the Sat comm school is in Fort Gordon, GA where im at now. So far all I know is that im goin back to NJ but im praying that imma get a follow on order somewhere else *hopefully nothing in the dakotas, idaho or alaska* hopefully imma stay in AMC and get my *** to caLi.

[SCOOBYSHAG]

That's funny a friend of mine Sgt Ilaoa (big Samoan guy) is stationed in Jabudi Africa starting the tactical DMS system

Thats exactly where I am except for it is spelled Djibouti.

Is your friend Marine Corps?

Sgt Ilaoa?

[WDRacing]

How did ya know what WD stood for??

WD

No they stuck us with the Heavy guys, RC135's, AWACS and KC135's.

WD=White Devil, its a little nick name the locals and some of my Asian friends gave me

WD

[nrcooled]

Thats exactly where I am except for it is spelled Djibouti.

Is your friend Marine Corps?

Sgt Ilaoa?

yeah he's USMC. Very cool guy! He was stationed here at HQMC in Arlington for a while then went to MARFORPACOM in Hawaii

His name is pronounced "EE-lau-a" Don't know how big the base is if you run into him tell him "Cpl Cowart says hi"

BTW thanks for the correct spelling on Djibouti I had no clue how to spell it

[StrongBad240]

Hey fliprayzin240sx I was thinking about cross training into that field how long is the tech school and what are u doing in it like setting up networks or just looking at a screen all day. Oh yeah what is the srb right now for it too.

[SCOOBYSHAG]

yeah he's USMC. Very cool guy! He was stationed here at HQMC in Arlington for a while then went to MARFORPACOM in Hawaii

His name is pronounced "EE-lau-a" Don't know how big the base is if you run into him tell him "Cpl Cowart says hi"

BTW thanks for the correct spelling on Djibouti I had no clue how to spell it

Hey do you know what exactly he does? It might be easier for me to locate him that way.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Hey fliprayzin240sx I was thinking about cross training into that field how long is the tech school and what are u doing in it like setting up networks or just looking at a screen all day. Oh yeah what is the srb right now for it too.

Haha...i see your stationed in Dover AFB eh? Im heading back to McGuire in 3 wks or so. God i cant believe im actually excited bout goin back there. Anyways well all in all schools almost 8 months long. I left NJ back in Jan and imma be done by the end of July. Well the thing with Sat Comm is you gotta realize that its really 4 different jobs under the same career field. Theres Satellite Comm, TROPO/LOS, Telemetry and another branch which I cant remember on top of my head (could be GPS but not really sure right now). Out of the 4 they could train you on 2 things. Right now i have no clue what im gonna do doing when i get back. So far Ive had instructors who've done the communications side of the house (sat com and TROPO/LOS) and some telemetry instructors. Well if you go to communications yah u basically babysit the system and make sure its running. If you go tactical, you have a tendency to get deployed alot but then from what I hear its on a volunteer first set up and most peeps do volunteer. I actually wanna do Telemetry basically just checking electronic systems (eg: navigation systems for cruise missiles among other stuff). As for the SRB, I got a Staff who re-sign and got $32k for the job, cant remember if its 4 or 6 yrs tho...

[WAbernethy]

Speaking of re-enlistment bonuses, a buddy of mine who was in the same AFSC as me re-upped for six years and went out and bought himself a brand new Altima 3.5. Bastard. That thing hauls ***. He was always ****ing with me like "hey, you wanna race?". Now I have the last laugh, I'm a silly-villian again and he's stuck changing IDG's for six more years. My SRB could have been 5 and I still would have gotten out. You can only take so much BS.