AEM EMS for RBs is around the corner!

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krayton
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its coming! the word on the apple tree is 1 week till release to the public.

i will be getting it this month hopefully

http://forum.aempower.com/bbs/...12517


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the "apple tree" is AEM R&D, i talked to them earlier today.

"we just finished the final tune and it should be available to the public in about a week"

we will see.

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anyone know how much this thing is going to cost?

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krayton
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dekand wrote:anyone know how much this thing is going to cost?
im guessing 1000-1200 mark.

hopefully kamin can call tommorrow and find out.

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hmm that would be reasonable... i was looking on there website at the stuff for the 240 and it was all 2000+ ... thats insane

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I kinda doubt it will be any less than $2000..

Nissan 240SX 1999-02 Silvia S15 SR20DET w/UEGO 30-1603U New Release $2,816.25 Nissan 240SX 1997-98 Silvia S14 SR20DET w/UEGO 30-1603U New Release $2,816.25 Nissan 240SX 1997-98 Silvia S14 SR20DET 30-1603 New Release $2,335.60 Nissan 240SX 1999-02 Silvia S15 SR20DET 30-1603 New Release $2,335.60 Nissan 240SX 1993-98 Silvia S14 SR20DET (Europe) w/UEGO 30-1603U New Release $2,816.25 Nissan 240SX 1993-98 Silvia S14 SR20DET (Europe) 30-1603 New Release $2,335.60 Nissan 240SX 1991-93 Silvia S13 SR20DET 30-1601 New Release $2,335.60 Nissan 240SX 1989-94 30-1600 New Release $2,335.60 Nissan 240SX 1989-94 w/UEGO 30-1600U New Release $2,816.25

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Thats all MSRP. Dealers will probably sell it at 1,200-1,700. Screw that Power FC all the way.-Alex

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eh? wrote:I kinda doubt it will be any less than $2000..

Nissan 240SX 1999-02 Silvia S15 SR20DET w/UEGO 30-1603U New Release $2,816.25 Nissan 240SX 1997-98 Silvia S14 SR20DET w/UEGO 30-1603U New Release $2,816.25 Nissan 240SX 1997-98 Silvia S14 SR20DET 30-1603 New Release $2,335.60 Nissan 240SX 1999-02 Silvia S15 SR20DET 30-1603 New Release $2,335.60 Nissan 240SX 1993-98 Silvia S14 SR20DET (Europe) w/UEGO 30-1603U New Release $2,816.25 Nissan 240SX 1993-98 Silvia S14 SR20DET (Europe) 30-1603 New Release $2,335.60 Nissan 240SX 1991-93 Silvia S13 SR20DET 30-1601 New Release $2,335.60 Nissan 240SX 1989-94 30-1600 New Release $2,335.60 Nissan 240SX 1989-94 w/UEGO 30-1600U New Release $2,816.25
those are MSRP, nobody but AEM sells to the public at that price, expect 1500-1800 realistically.

and EMS > power FC. hands down.

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Yeah EMS's have more tuning capabilities I just don't like the price. Thats me though

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uego is an expensive piece too.

some of those msrps have those attached to them

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What makes the AEM better in tuning capability?

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the EMS can do anything.

just for a simple example it has a self-learn feature. meaning using their wideband input you can say tune for 11.8AFR, and the EMS will adjust things on the fly while you just drive around.

thats just an example. i had a chance to work with one for a very short time last year. amazing.

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Yea i just read about that, also the soft rev cut is nice.

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yes it is

anyone wanna buy a mines ecu for 800? i want an ems

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krayton wrote:
im guessing 1000-1200 mark.

hopefully kamin can call tommorrow and find out.

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krayton wrote:
"price wont be finalized till its released next week"


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ooooh, sounds nice. I'll be looking into that more.

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Doers anyone know if this is just RB25 getting released this soon or also RB20? Thanks

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i know they have worked on the RB20, i assume there will be a RB20 EMS released at the same time/shortly after.

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I have a couple of questions. what makes the EMS better than the PFC? Does the EMS have a conversion from MAF to MAP? That would be nice. . .Also, will the EMS work with the LM-1. I already have the LM-1, that's why I want to know. That is a good one?

-Jeramy

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Fuel Table Automapping

Programmable Traction Control

Onboard 512kb Datalogger

16 General Purpose Outputs

7 Definable Switch Inputs

Soft Cut Rev Limiters

2 Step Launch Control

Wet or Dry Nitrous Control

Definable Knock Control

4 EGT Inputs w/Fuel Control

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Wykid 240 wrote:Does the EMS have a conversion from MAF to MAP? That would be nice. . .Also, will the EMS work with the LM-1.

-Jeramy
you can tune with a map sensor if you want, they should have the gm 3 bar setup in there and also their 3.5 bar. and you can use the wideband of your choice they just recomend theirs.

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thanks for the repleysilent dave. . .

-Jeramy

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ok update for everyone, the EMS is officially released and in stock for the RB25. price is around 1850 w/o UEGO, 2250 w/ UEGO through any AEM dealer.

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sorry to ask such a stupid question, but what is UEGO??

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Wideband

it stands for Universal Exhaust Gas Oxygen

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While we're answering dumb questions, here's another one....

I'm about to start my RB swap and was planning on picking up one of these EMS. I was wondering whether or not I need to have the RB wiring harness spliced to work with my s13 harness or if the rb harness can just be plugged right into the EMS.

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rb250sx wrote:it stands for Universal Exhaust Gas Oxygen
never heard of this before.....is it worth the extra 400? what does it do? ive got all the cash but I dont want to buy something I dont need.....

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AEM wrote:UEGO stands for Universal Exhaust Gas Oxygen sensor. It is the most accurate, fastest responding type of air/fuel ratio (AFR) sensor available on the market today.
Basically, it's a wide band O2 sensor and gives you a real Air/Fuel ratio unlike the cheaper Autometer gauge that just has a bouncing light. Very important to know your A/F because it'll let you know if your car begins to run rich or lean while you're driving. I had a friend whose turbo Civic went lean while he was racing and he burnt up the engine. It wasn't pretty.

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Wide band O2 is probably the single most important tuning tool you can have for a turbo engine. $400 is not bad... most standalone wideband controllers are at least that much. Plus, this one supposedly gives you the opportunity to do closed loop control, which could be pretty slick, depending on the response time of the sensor.


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