Add $6000 and which will go faster?

[Nebraska240sx]

After a Stang owner told me that his stang would be faster after he put in $6000 than if I put $6000 in to my 240, I need and opinion.If you put $6000 worth the Upgrades in to each of these cars, which would go faster?

[12second240]

Not to be a downer, but from reading your title only, and voting, i would definately say, the mustang 5.0L would be faster, and a 240 would be a much better handler, if you spent some of the money on suspension etc.

[Anand]

I second that.. I think a mustang would be way faster.. but for the long run and handaling.. it would be hands down 240. but if you are looking HP and just plain speed... Mustangs got it. it is deft a beast and $6000 will make the beast that much bigger.. I have driven one and man... it is hella fun for a day but not to own.

[FrEaK]

ask him... straight line or road course...

[jrc90240sx]

6K into a mustang would be running mid to low 10s, if not lower. (that is if there smart and go forced)

6k into a 240, and your running anywere from 14s to high 11s.

there is more you have to upgrade on a 240. like LSD, biger breaks, biger wheels and tires. a mustang owner would have have to add TC or SC, and dot legal slicks.

take the new cobra, all you have to do to get it into the 10s is change the pully, intake, exhaust, and some DOT legal sticky tires. and the cobra can pull over .95 g's so it would beat us (stock vs stock) in an auto X event.

My friend is building his mustang (99 v6). he is going to be building a block on the side to swap in later. for 6 forged pistons and rods cost less, then 4 of the same for my 240. he can build a builtproph block with good heads and cam, for about 3k. putting 260 rwhp and 340 lbs to the ground, and very boost happy.

I personly would never own a mustang on the dated setup it rides on (manily because i dont fit). I for one personly like my 240 more then his mustang (even a 03 cobra), the build quailty is much better, and have a much more advanced suspention/chase setup. we just lack power and displacment.

the new 05 mustang is going to be a power to be reconded with thats for sure. I just wish there was still a compact rwd import (other then the miata and s2000, witch i dont fit)

[FrEaK]

You telling me stock for stock it would in?

Thats a stupid statement... whats the weight distib on a mustang? Whats the weight on the mustang? exactly... if the drivers were equal i have my money on the 240 no doubt, at an auto x event.. just because the cobra can pul .95 later g's doesn't mean it can own in turns, espcially auto x turns... any mustang throwing around its weight will also break down its front tires and heat of the brakes enormusly... thats why you dont see them auto xing alot...

So i completely disagree with that statement... i think Mustangs should stick to straight line speed...

[RatedR]

Man, $6000 would be the price of a 240~!!!! I know, I know, that's not the topic here, but LISTEN UP~! Everybody here knows about SCC's project silvia right???? SR20DET on a coupe for how much~????? UNDER $3000~!!!!!! That's not even a good downpayment for a d*mn mustang!!! but anyways, if you ask me, get the sr20 red top for +1600 from venus and upgrade the turbo and get proper tuning and you'll still have about 1500 left over for tuning your suspension~! In my opinion, I think the 240 would still be a better investment than the mustang. You can already build a 12 sec car with how much you'll be spending to get a Mustang GT/Cobra.

Anybody feel me on this motion????

(DAMN - If I had $6000, I'd show you how good you can be with a 240!!!!!)

[AZhitman]

Puh-Leeze. Come on. Let's be realistic. If this were a bet, say Monster Garage-style:

Let's say this is a road course challenge: I'll take the Stang and $6K. I'd spend 5K on big brakes, autoX tires, springs, and other suspension bits - then another G for exhaust and a chip - and the 240 would be sucking wind.

Let's say it's a drag challenge: I'll still take the Stang. Slicks, headwork, headers, open pipes, gut the interior, 4.56 rear gears... God, it'd be an old-fashioned a$$-whuppin.

That being said, I HATE mustangs. There's a 98 240 near my house for sale that's giving me bad thoughts though!!!

[RatedR]

4 words: Power to Weight Ratio~!You'd have better luck maxing out a redtop SR20

[Tino]

Lucky, an s14 for sale near you... I saw a hennesy for sale before I even seen an s14 period.

[APEXi240]

My friend just bought a 400 crank hp crate motor for 1500 bucks...why did you even bother asking a stupid question like this?

And just so everyone knows another friend with a 5.0 (if we are talking about the 5.0) has a price of 1500 for a complete suspension setup (coilovers, stbs, sway bars, rear subframe braces, ect).

[Tino]

well thats kind of a rare deal though, what was his source.

[SilviaLuvr]

mustangs were made for straight drag runs. (told to me by a stang owner) 240 are made for curcit, auto x, etc. etc.

[AZhitman]

Originally posted by SilviaLuvr "]mustangs were made for straight drag runs. (told to me by a stang owner) The stang owner is a moron. Whenever I go to the Bondurant School, guess what I drive? A Roush-prepped Mustang - ON A ROAD COURSE!240 are made for curcit, auto x, etc. etc. Nope - A 240 was "made" to be a practical yet sporty economy car.

[SilviaLuvr]

well a roush and the selean were made for the track. this guy that me and my dad used to work wit drove a 2001 selean and he said that he tacks it to the track (road course) and tairs sh*t up. when he drag though, it's a different story. the roush was made for all the above. a friend of mine has a 2002 roush after his gt vert got totaled. h etold me that it can do both but he's tunning it to be a 9sec drag car wit no nitro.

[Nebraska240sx]

sorry for causing chaos

[AZhitman]

You didn't cause any chaos, Nebraska - People just have to be realistic.

[nismokid]

i know we all love our 240's but we have to be realistic. even though i dislike most mustangs with $6k you can s/c and do a lot of suspension work and since we are talking about the ka motor you will spend more than half of your money just getting the turbo kit. i have also driven a few mustangs and for being pretty heavy it handled pretty good. don't forget they've got twice the amount of cylinders and displacement as us.

[HUSKE]

Sorry to tell you this man, but carrying all of this:

4 JL audio 10 W6v2's (cranked clear down to 1 ohm)2 JL audio 6 W0 midrange2 Jl audio 200/1 watt amp3 JL audio 1000/1 Watt amps4 Clarion SRS1684-200W POWER SERIES 6 1/2" WOOFER AND 3/4"TWEETER WITH CROSSOVER NETWORKINGClarion DXZ925 Head unit with cd changerEVERYTHING IS DYNOMATED!!!!!

You aint gonna go fast in any direction. That has to weigh at least 500 pounds

[SlowFiveOh]

the 5.0 was never designed to be a handler. it was built for straight line performance. you're comparing apples to oragnes here. each car has its area where it shines.

in the acceleration dept. the 5.0 owns a 240. Ive owned both. BUT the mustang doesnt handle like the 240 at all. the IRS in the 240 is much more behaved, it has a lower center of gravity as well. They arent that heavy despite what everyone says. Mine weighed in at 2945 with 3/4 tank of gas and no spare/jack. (w/o driver)

im 6'6" and I have no problems fitting in my mustang. I havent had one problem with it and I love it. My car with bolt ons (stock motor from intake to oil pan) and 3.73's should turn 13.20's @ 105-107 with some traction in the spring. I'll have to wait a couple months til the tracks open up and i bring my car out to find out.

however theh exception to the rule in all of this is the AOD verts., they were just pigs. no ifs ands or buts, they were heavy and matched with the lethargic AOD just made the car perform like crap.

[RYNO_s13]

If you put 6K in the seat, and walked away, I'd say they both go just as fast. Car thieves aren't real picky. Or was that not what you meant?

[APEXi240]

Haha, very funny RYNO. That reminds me. There was a guy I used to know who when he wanted to get rid of a car, would take it down to Irvington (very high-crime area) and put a 20 dollar bill on each seat. Got rid of 3 cars this way.

Tino, that really isn't any deal I was talking about. Mustang parts are dirt cheap. Aluminum driveshafts go for 120-170 bucks. My friend got 2 strut braces and a rear subframe brace for 75 (all being very quality in make).

[RYNO_s13]

At one point this thread would have been comparing apples to oranges. Not so anymore. In fact, the pony and the 240 might be long lost relatives. As of 2004 the V-8 powered pony will have a powerplant out of.... that's right an F-150. Hell, Nissan did it, a few other manufacturers have done it, now Fraud, I mean Ford is doing it. Maybe the 240 will come back. ( Quick, everybody hold your breath.)

[SlowFiveOh]

In fact, the pony and the 240 might be long lost relatives. As of 2004 the V-8 powered pony will have a powerplant out of.... that's right an F-150.

ok so the 2004 will have a 4.6 and optional 5.4....the f-150 has had the 4.6 option almost as long as the mustang has already. the motors arent the same, displacement is, but the heads, cam compression, and intake are different. for used the 5.0 in the explorer, f-150, mustang, cougar, crown vic simultaneously for years, but they werent the same motor. they shared the same block. they are all set up differently for their respective application with different torque curves etc.

the 240 on the other hand used the KA straight out of their truck line, no real changes that i know of.

[Zebrahead]

Yes, but you all forget, that mustang are the epitamy of GAYNESS. Who wants a mustang? Only gay people.

Lets review.

Mustangs . . . gay.240s . . . awesome.

Get it?

Nick.

[SlowFiveOh]

and you base that on what?

[AZhitman]

I said it before, I'll say it again. If 240's were all that, I'd have driven 'em at the Bondurant School.

I'm no 'Stang fan, but I'll admit I REALLY want a 91 5.0 LX 'vert, white on white.

[RYNO_s13]

ok so the 2004 will have a 4.6 and optional 5.4....the f-150 has had the 4.6 option almost as long as the mustang has already. Etc...the 240 on the other hand used the KA straight out of their truck line, no real changes that i know of.

There was an article in the latest Car and Driver where some guy at Ford said that in the new model the engine would be a direct pull from an F-150. no difference anymore.

[AZhitman]

LOL @ FURD.

I like the styling on the 05 (?) Stang - About time they made something that looks like a 70 Mach.

[RYNO_s13]

LOL @ FURD.

I like the styling on the 05 (?) Stang - About time they made something that looks like a 70 Mach.

Theh exterior is great, but the interior I saw had all the style and subtlety of a wet tampon.