Add $6000 and which will go faster?

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Yuck - I agree.

Either way, it's archaic BEFORE it even hits the market.

Furd Sucks A$$.


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FrEaK wrote:You telling me stock for stock it would in?

Thats a stupid statement... whats the weight distib on a mustang? Whats the weight on the mustang? exactly... if the drivers were equal i have my money on the 240 no doubt, at an auto x event.. just because the cobra can pul .95 later g's doesn't mean it can own in turns, espcially auto x turns... any mustang throwing around its weight will also break down its front tires and heat of the brakes enormusly... thats why you dont see them auto xing alot...

So i completely disagree with that statement... i think Mustangs should stick to straight line speed...


Sorry buddy, but cobra runs like 12 or low 13 seconds stock 1/4 mile while "your 240 like" runs 16ish. with .95g, it only does have the stopping power, and also straight away power. Drifting is for show. Pros do not drift in a road course in real racing cars (indy, nascar...)

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RYNO_s13 wrote:There was an article in the latest Car and Driver where some guy at Ford said that in the new model the engine would be a direct pull from an F-150. no difference anymore.


read it again it will be "a variation" from their truck series. just like it has been in every platform it is used in.

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I think you should compare the TOTAL price for the cars:

Cobra: retail price + 6000 = B price240sx: (Cobra retail price) - retail price + 6000 = C price

Cobra retail price is about 30-40 grand, and you 240sx retail price is 8G? Let's say the cobra is $30G and your 240 is $10G, you still have 20G to put in your car to match with the cobra, with 20G, you would likely to whoop the **** out of the cobra, correct?

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but the cobra is brand new youre talking there vs. the cost of a used 240 which was a cheaper car anyways when it was new to begin with. like i said before, apples to oranges.

the origional topic was about the 5 liter mustangs. which can be had pretty cheap, especially if they are beat to hell which a lot of them are because high school kids buy them, throw flowmasters on them and then beat the hell out of them because they think they are a bunch of badasses. when in reality all they do is give the cool stangers a bad name because they are stupid.

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The bottom line is simple - the Stang is a far better bang for your buck if you're looking to mod. From a practical enthusiast's standpoint (I would as soon drive a '68 RS/SS Z/28 with the 327 as a built S15), the Mustang is the better choice.

$6,000 in mods:$3,000 Paxton Novi, $800 Longtube Headers, $150 CAI, $450 Catback, $300 Bassani X-Over Pipe, $3,000 Saleen Racecraft Suspension = 11 second stang that will outhandle just about anything this side of a Ferrari. And maybe even a Ferrari too.

$3,500 Boosted KA or SR20DET, I/D/E $1,000, FMIC $1000, $1000 suspension = low 13 second 240 that's capable but not ferocious on the track.

And you can't compare a new Mustang to an S13 - two very different cars from a decade apart.

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nissan does that motor difference thing toothe maxima altima 350z are all the same block but different hp numbers

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on another note it definatly depends on wich mustang you talk about. the 85 gt had 170hp or 190hp for the ho motor

doesn't the 90 240 have 155hp in a car that weighs less?

my friend put 4k in his 89 mustang nothcback ( and yes he knows what he was doing ) he ran a 15.5 in the 1/4. with major tuning and a new clutch he got down to 13.8. thats with 4k in the motor and suspension. the car is very quick it handles great and looks horrible.

i got my Fbody for 5k have spend 300 on it and run 13.3 and handle better than him and the 240

i got my 240 for 300 and have spent almost 700 on it. it is slower than my car and my friends and doesn't handle as good as my car. but i envy this car for one reason...

you can play with it.

i am so jelous of this car because you can wind out the gears a bit getting on the street. honduh kids will come up to it and rev the engine. no one will play with me in my car. when i hit the gas 2nd gear is over the speed limit on the highway. i pull up to 164 in 5th with another gear to go. thats instant death if i mess up

the mustang is a wannabe camaro/firebird and the firebird is a wannabe corvette

back to the original question yes the mustang is gonna be faster than a 240 with en eqaul amount of money put into either one no matter what the amount is. even if you include the price of the car. because you can find a deal anywhere as long as you look, and no matter what the mustang was built with more potential in mind.

and just to start a little trouble most of the parts you put in your 240 are ripoff american parts. so your all wannabe musclecar owners!!!!

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SlowFiveOh wrote:but the cobra is brand new youre talking there vs. the cost of a used 240 which was a cheaper car anyways when it was new to begin with. like i said before, apples to oranges.

the origional topic was about the 5 liter mustangs. which can be had pretty cheap, especially if they are beat to hell which a lot of them are because high school kids buy them, throw flowmasters on them and then beat the hell out of them because they think they are a bunch of badasses. when in reality all they do is give the cool stangers a bad name because they are stupid.


I didn't know 302 V8 is a 5.0 litter engine. Anyways, you can get any DSM for dirt cheap, but the case is not that. It is about a car vs a car, therefore, based on the information given above, I know that this is a battle of a mustand vs silvia. With 6G for the mustang, a Cobra engine is not that expensive to drop in, and also, the stock cobra engine does 13 seconds and with the extra cash left over, it will surely smoke the silvia. Hey, if you think the silvia can win still, look at the vote above to see if that will help you change your thinking a bit.

If ths is about mustang vs skyline r34, then it is a whole different story, and with 6G into the skyline, oh boy, it could get ugly.

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If it was a s15 silvia vs a mustang, i would say that the silvia would be faster almost both ways. Faster 1/4 mile at 14.1 and a better autox car.

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mustang what? salleen? hahaa

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yup, if this was silvia vs mustang different story. But everyone was talking about the wonderful ka24de powerplant. If you could start with the sr20det powerplant, you could be making 400-500 hp with 6 grand. That would sure give the mustang a run for its money.

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cndctrdj wrote:i got my 240 for 300 and have spent almost 700 on it. it is slower than my car and my friends and doesn't handle as good as my car. but i envy this car for one reason...

i pull up to 164 in 5th with another gear to go.


I haven't hoisted the banner on a 240 driver in a while, so here goes:

A six-speed, $1,000 240 that does over a buck-sixty?:bsflag

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i think he was talking abou the fbody, but the bs flag still belongs up.

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well anyone that says the mustang is gay is wrong (probily never drove in a suped up one).. let me tell ya the sound from a mustang is just... sexy.. no other car that makes that sound i love it.. and with a blower and diffrent gear ratio damn they fly, hate to tell ya but u wont get that from a 4 cyclinder or even most 6's.. now i love my 240, but mustangs are awsome cars.. i dont think i would own an american car for more then a year tho.. they are fun while they last but they dont last too long..

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i know im newer to this 240 site, but i think yall are trying way to hard to compare this cars. i mean they are totaly different, power to weight, size, engines. with any amount of money you put itno both cars, a big-*** V8 will kill a four banger, no contest (drag style). i live up inn Mn, so i have to compete with retards in there fu*king j-bodies, sh*tty comaros and stangs, but the one thing i have leared time after time, is that no matter what you do to your import, a bored-out domestic will give you a pounding.

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take the new cobra, all you have to do to get it into the 10s is change the pully, intake, exhaust, and some DOT legal sticky tires. and the cobra can pull over .95 g's so it would beat us (stock vs stock) in an auto X event.

My friend is building his mustang (99 v6). he is going to be building a block on the side to swap in later. for 6 forged pistons and rods cost less, then 4 of the same for my 240. he can build a builtproph block with good heads and cam, for about 3k. putting 260 rwhp and 340 lbs to the ground, and very boost happy.

somebody needs to raise the B.S. flag on this one. If your friend puts 260 rwhp and 340lbft down his motor is not really boost friendly at all. He will have definately be putting some dome pistons which raise the CR way past anything you could run on the old outdated 3.8 liter POS. By the way take a 90 mustang and a 90 240 and guess who will win. I used to have a stang and wish I still did. Im not saying I dont like the 240, I love my 89. I just loved the sound of the carbeurated v8 and being able to do 150 plus in a stock car. No Bulls**t. As far as a 240 outhandling a stang. It I've pulled corners in my stang that would make my stock suspensioned 240 go to hell on. If you want a really fast car go to a junkyard find a 351 cleavland 4 barrell for about 500 bucks and put a forged rods and pistons. Do a little porting and polishing new intake manifold big ol weiand 8-71 blower and twin race demon carbs and you are golden. Buy a set of slicks and your gone. On the other hand a nice turbo 302 would be pretty sick in my 89 240...; )

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FrEaK wrote:You telling me stock for stock it would in?

Thats a stupid statement... whats the weight distib on a mustang? Whats the weight on the mustang? exactly... if the drivers were equal i have my money on the 240 no doubt, at an auto x event.. just because the cobra can pul .95 later g's doesn't mean it can own in turns, espcially auto x turns... any mustang throwing around its weight will also break down its front tires and heat of the brakes enormusly... thats why you dont see them auto xing alot...

So i completely disagree with that statement... i think Mustangs should stick to straight line speed...
i guarantee you the 240's brakes are sooo much worse than the mustang 5.0's brakes. Braking in auto x is a major part. The 240's brakes suck

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$6k gets you a turbocharged or supercharged engine basically, considering the mustang has a bigger and more powerful engine to begin with along with cheaper performance parts due to a larger market, the mustang hold the advantage. Original cost of the car is apparently not a factor here so I'd definately say the Mustang would be a lot faster than the 240.

I'll keep my 240 and $6000 and just go as fast as I do now though. Thanks anyway :p I could get a nice Plasma screen TV, or even pay for rent and food with that money!

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well. i have an 89 240, and my bro has a 91 5.0 gt (heavier body style, because of the body kit). his car is DEFINITELY faster, and the parts for his car, like everyone said, are cheap. 5.0's are like the honda civic of the drag race world, they are common, probably the most common base to start with when building a fast car, his car when he bought it, with a lsd that was out, a messed up transmission, and x-pipes layed down a high-13

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simply put, 6g's in a mustang will make it waaay faster than 6g's in a 240. now if you can drive better on a road course that's different, but for just plain speed, a mustang would smoke a 240. sorry to admit it, just gotta be real, i hate mustangs too, and i love my 240, but if it isn't on a road course or canyon i definitely would have no chance against one.

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I didnt read the replys, but $6000 and a 240 or stang.

I will take a GT and whip your butt all over the place! You can super charge that sucker, exhaust, drag radial, and make a nice 1/4 mile time.

240 + $6000 = 240 with an SR or CA installed and maybe exhaust, air intake, boost controller, and be making slightly more than a stock stang is.

This is where the displacement come into play. Anything you can do with $6000 he can do the same and make more power. Bottom line.

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6k into my TA and it would be faster than both of them! :D

Oh what I'd do with 6k for my TA. :ylsuper

(especially since we're talking US dollars here)

EDIT: and I completely disagree with this statement, as would a lot of others...not trying to flame : the mustang is a wannabe camaro/firebird and the firebird is a wannabe corvette

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i disagree too, especially considering the mustang came out first. also, the firebird to corvette part is stupid, that is like saying that a 240 is a wannabe 300zx, a civic is a wannabe prelude, etc

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Saleen. Lets all spell it together.. S...A...L...E...E...N... and I hope I spelled that right.. not to be a ****, but dude, I'm hoping you're 16 or at least 15 if you're driving, and that means you must have a shred of spelling. *probably just misspelled 30 things*


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