Acceleration Problem

[Weberrider]

My 2009 has a problem accelerating from a dead stop. I can put the pedal to the floor and the car barely rolls until it hits about 10 mph and then it accelerates fine. The idle is fine. Runs fine once it it rolling, but literally almost does not move from a dead stop. I am afraid if I was stopped on a hill the car would not move. It happened once last week for about an hour and went away. It is doing it again today and has not stopped. Could this be a computer problem? Any ideas?

[robf70837]

Have you had the TCM/ECM program update recall performed?

About two weeks ago I had mine re-programmed during its regular scheduled service. The hesitation I experienced when accelerating from a stop disappeared.

[Weberrider]

The only recall notice I have received is for the steering. I would not call this a hesitation. The car barely moves. It take about 5 seconds to reach 10 mph.

[casperfun]

This was the reason I decided to finally sell my pearl glow nissan maxima. Loved that car. I would press the gas to the floor and it barely moved. When it finally was accelerating. It was extremely slow though. Barely reaching 40-45 mph and struggled. So I sold it.

Anyways, pressing pedal to the floor I always considered extreme. Even with all the pedals getting stuck on the floor mat issue. I thought Toyota always treated their customers stupid thinking the pedal would get stuck by a floormat. You know how far you have to step to get it stuck??

Its like after over a 100yr history of automobiles, out of no where pedals now get stuck by a floormat? Karma, I say for toyota.

In the many years of driving the only time I ever hit the pedal to the floor was when my maxima had issues. And I am not a racer, so would you usually hit it to the floor? I never redline. Ok once, when I was angry, I think I press the pedal to the floor while parked. But 99% of time I never get close to putting the pedal to the floor. Never usually passed 4000rpm when I had the maxima.

Anyways, all I have to do is barely even touch the Rogue gas pedal and it accelerates.

[going rogue]

Just take it to the dealer (on a day when the problem is easily reproducible) and have the service manager drive it. He will schedule an appointment for the TCM/ECM update and/or whatever else is necessary to fix the problem. This is definitely not normal and is covered under warranty.

[Weberrider]

The problem was a stop switch that tells the transmission that the car has stopped and must resume movement in a lower range in the transmission. The switch was failing and the trans did not get the signal that I had stopped. Basically like starting in 4th gear from a dead stop. Cost of repair was $158.00 and they did it in about 2 hours (they also did the steering recal)l.

[going rogue]

Thanks for the update. Just out of curiosity, were the repairs done under warranty, or not?

[Weberrider]

I had to pay. I have 61,000 miles on my Rougue already so the switch was not covered. I was hoping it might be part of the extended transmission warranty but it was not. I also had them change the transmission fluid which cost $229.95.

The switch that went bad was a "stop light switch #25320-AXOOC SWITCH ASM" Parts: $48.74 Labor: $110.00

[philipa_240sx]

25320-AX00C is the stop lamp switch located in the brake pedal assembly. Obviously not part of the transmission, but part of the vehicle electrical system which is out of warranty.

The stop lamp switch is used for feedback of the brake pedal position (brakes applied or not) and is an important part of CVT operation... as you found out.

At least they found the problem and it was a simple fix.

[donut302]

Hello,

I'm experiencing a problem with my 2010 SL FWD Rogue that is nearly 100% reproducible. At the first stop after an hour or more of highway driving, the car has very slow/hesitant acceleration at low-rpm unless a lot of gas is given. After getting the car to rev-up by pressing the gas hard, the car operates normally. However, unless the engine revs up, the hesitant acceleration can continue for several stops/starts.

I've seen a post or two on here about acceleration problems, but they seem to occur sporadically during normal driving, not specifically after long periods at highway speeds. The symptoms are similar, but I can't reproduce the problem without driving on the highway for over an hour.

Has anyone else experienced a problem like this? Any suggestions? I've asked the dealer, and of course they can't reproduce it even with a test drive because they don't drive it for an hour or more on the highway.

Thanks!

[Honva]

Are you sure it is the car, not you? At highway speed, very little gas is needed. After an hour, it could be that your foot just got used to the light pedal. At a stop, it would feel like having to step heavily to accelerate.

[donut302]

It seems like the car. I need to give it a lot of gas to get it "un-stuck". It takes several seconds or more of the car barely moving and at low-rpm after flooring before the engine finally revs up and takes off. Way longer than with normal driving and I give it a lot of gas. Also, it won't do this after 20 or 30 min of highway, but it will happen after 45 to 60 min.

It reminded of an issue discussed on here where the solution was the "stop light switch", except it's unclear why it would happen only after highway speeds.

[casperfun]

The hesitant acceleration is not the electric golf cart feel is it? Maybe your not accustomed to the CVT if it's new to you. Some complain the CVT does not accelerate the way they are use to because it lacks that shudder feel when it changes gears.

Anyways,

In this day and age of cell phone video, maybe somebody could sit behind you and record these symptoms after driving for an hour on freeway. Instead of a ghost problem, you can show the dealer the actual problem.

Just a suggestion.

[Pescakl1]

Seems like the CVT forgot to get back to low gear after the long drive at highway speed.
Does it feel like you try to take off with the car in 4th or 5th gear?

If that is the case, you should ask the dealer to check the software version of the ECM, EMU whatever the name is, and probably reflash it to be sure all the software lines are stored in the computer.

[pa2]

Hi Guys, been looking on here for a very long time and have learned a lot from all of you.
Had a new 2008 Rogue and yes after 1,500 miles a new trans had to be put in, no problem from Nissan they did it right away. Now after two years, traded that in for a new 2010 fully equipped and just started to go on vacation. After 750 miles had the same thing happen to me as you describe not only once but four time going from Phila, PA to williamsburg, VA could not finish my Vacation because of this. Car is now at dealer. Dealer said they will keep my car till they find out what is wrong. Will get back to this Forum with there answer "Quote Seems like the CVT forgot to get back to low gear after the long drive at highway speed. I think you hit the nail on the head

[kerrton]

This sounds like a new problem, one I've never heard of before. After your dealer figures out the problem please post back so others can benefit, thank you!!

[wifes rogue]

Hey,
I remember reading on the forum somewhere, that someone had the same issue. Now I don't remember the fix to the problem exactly, however it was some sensor near the breaks or something near the wheel that would indicate if the car was stopped. It was something along those lines. I can't even find the post anymore.

The way everyone is talking about it now, it seems that the car is starting in a higher gear. If the problem happens, put the car in low or 2 (I don’t remember exactly what low gear on the shifter is) and see if the problem still happens.

FOUND THE LINK: acceleration-problem-t481819.html see if that helps out.

[pa2]

wifes rogue, Thanks for the link I printed it out and took it to my dealer, this has helped out big time Thanks again

[pa2]

Ok, heard from my dealer, Said Nissan has a fix for this. Dealer told me They ordered a valve body for the trans. so far this is all I know will keep you posted.

[Kerbear]

I too had the issue after a long highway drive. I bought my krom in March and it had that issue with 700miles. I came on here for advice and everyone said that it needed a ecm update and it need this and that, but everything they were saying didn't seem like a fix to what was happening. I went to nissan an they said the shudder was the rotor before looking at it and the slow accel was a torque convertor switch, all were not true and it need a new transmisson after test driving and computer dia. I was so not satisfied with the krom that the GM after two weeks of calling corp and him, he decided to give me a new krom off the showroom. He assured me that 1and 133 vehicles come with a factory defect and my new one wouldn't have it. After 2000 miles of driving the new one, guess what, the same issue is back. I'm glad they think they figured it out. St Pete Nissan says there a two ne parts that they put into the new 2010 rogue transmisson they have never been put together before in the cvt and that is what is causing all the issues. I really hope it's just that lamp switch.

[buffalorogue]

I have had the same exact problem...after long highway driving, the car delays in acceleration from a stop. It is really scary to pull out and not know if the car is going to move! Did the dealer end up fixing it?

[pa2]

I have had the same exact problem...after long highway driving, the car delays in acceleration from a stop. It is really scary to pull out and not know if the car is going to move! Did the dealer end up fixing it?

Well my car has been at the dealer from 14 jun till today it took this long for them to order the parts, so they say. and they think its the valve body . They said it would be done sometime today, i hope, can't stand to drive the cube they loaned me. Then i will take it on a long test drive. Will keep you all posted.

[kerrton]

I have had the same exact problem...after long highway driving, the car delays in acceleration from a stop. It is really scary to pull out and not know if the car is going to move! Did the dealer end up fixing it?

Buffalorogue, are you saying that you have this issue, brought it to the dealer and they were unable to help you? I find this very hard to believe, this is a very significant issue that should be brought to the dealer immediately for warranty work which I'm sure they'll address to the best of their abilities.

I find it hard to believe that only 2010 models are experiencing this as a new issue, as one member stated they were told a new change to the CVT at 2010 model year has introduced this issue. Anyone have this issue with a model year prior to 2010 (i.e. any 08 or 09's??)

[buffalorogue]

Haven't brought it to the dealer yet...the first time it happened, I thought I was crazy. But I just took a long trip for the fourth of July holiday and noticed the issue again. Just got back today. Will call the dealer in the am...I am supposed to take another car trip on Friday...not too excited to hear that your Rogue has been in the shop for over two weeks!

[philipa_240sx]

Anyone have this issue with a model year prior to 2010 (i.e. any 08 or 09's??)

None here. My Rogue CVT works just fine. No acceleration issues.

[takeshi]

Anyone have this issue with a model year prior to 2010 (i.e. any 08 or 09's??)

Not here.

[tikus]

Not mine.

[pa2]

Haven't brought it to the dealer yet...the first time it happened, I thought I was crazy. But I just took a long trip for the fourth of July holiday and noticed the issue again. Just got back today. Will call the dealer in the am...I am supposed to take another car trip on Friday...not too excited to hear that your Rogue has been in the shop for over two weeks!

Well just got my car back from dealer, they said something about the valve body was changed. Told them i was going to take it on long trip. They said if anything went wrong to call them from where i was, so we will see. so far can't tell much till i go on trip, will keep you posted.

[Rogue2008]

I am not sure I have the same issue but the acceleration from stops was always sluggish and it seems that CVT is still into 3rd-4th gear. The paddle shifters on the 08 are lifesavers. I think they should provide the paddle shifters with all CVT cars.

[kerrton]

You know you have the serious problem being described here if you push down heavily on the gas/accelerator peddle and the rpms do not immediatley raise and the car doesn't take off rapidly. If you push hard on the gas and the car stays around 1000 rpms then you likely have a problem.

On the other hand, If you drive conservatiely (very light on the gas peddle) the CVT will select a very high gear ratio quite quickly, rpms will be very low when accelerating giving the impression of sluggish performance but in my experience it's only a perception, even though the rpms are very low the car is actually accelerating quickly.

But the key point about this is, this is not something that is out of your control, if you want even faster accleration and don't care for the high gearing all you have to do is push on the accelerator a little harder and the rpms will jump quickly. The CVT is very responsive, basically it will do whatever you want it to do, and adapt to any driving style or preference. I know it sounds like a basic statement, but it is so critical - if you want to have better acceleration, are you pressing aggressively on the accelerator/gas peddle? If you are pressing firming on the accelerator and the car still has very low rpms (say around 1200ish), with the CVT in a high gear ratio then you may have a problem worth discussing with your service dept.

If you press on the accelerator firmly, the CVT will immediately select a lower gear ratio and rpms will quickly jump to 3000+, this should be very quick and responsive. If your rpms are stuck down around 1000ish and addtional gas peddle pressure has no effect - i.e. the car is not very resopnsive, this sounds like a problem to me. My car is very responsive, yours should be too, maybe go out and experiement a little bit?