About to setup an ITB ka24de with megasquirt!!!! :)

[jrsink]

so i bought an awesum deal of a car a couple months ago.a ca18det hatch with sil front t28 pulsar turbo and megasquirt stand alone engine management system wired in for 2000.untuned.i tuned the car it made 234 whp at 7 pounds, freakin amazing!but then i spun a bearing the first night i took it out drifting becuase gaskets were leaking mass amounts of oil. oh well.

ive already parted out the turbo/intercooler setup, and the spun bearing motorset has been sold as well.

NEXT!

ive been driving/sliding 240sxs for almost 4 years now, ive been thru 5 kas as well over the years. i love beating the **** out of em. i even had a fully built motor get blown up becasue a heater core hose popped off when i was at an event.

i now have a hatch shell still wired with the megasquirt and i want to get back into a ka, not nessesarily ka-t, but KA with ITB's would be badass. ive done all the research, and i know you need a stand alone setup to run this. and my car is wired with a EDIS ford escort ignition so sticking with a four banger would be perfect. plus i have one of the best tuners around for the job MARTIN at ZFEVER in tampa florida. ive got sources for all the gsxr parts and i cant wait to feel that NA KA 2.4 power again.in the future i would like to start buliding a high comp ka bottom end with all head components eventually too.

besides the fact that the motor got messed up, i really was not happy with the performance of the 1.8 t. not sure if it was becuase the t28 had too much lag or bc the motor had no PS, but i want that truck motor dispalcement back ASAP. i love sliding a ka na. and with ITB's this ***** should be crazy responsive and shoot flames too lol. im only lookin for like 200hp for sliding so turbo wont be nessesary.

discuss. SINK, nice to meet yall : )

[liquid_cool]

i am really interested in this type of build...i allso have a current project im workin..but i have yet to decide on the intake set up...itb's are interesting for this motor...i hope to see some pics soon man..good luck.

[480sx]

Megasquirt 2? <--- Kicks ***.

If you have MS2 then go for it, best bang for the buck option ever. I did this myself and loved it for a while. You should mod the stock distributor or use the Ford EDIS system with MS, that should be how its setup on the CA. Ford EDIS + MS2 = win for any vehicle.

A dude named Greaser has a N/A Ka thats hitting right about 200 WHP with ITB's and all the trimmings. The thing thats painful about n/a ka is the fact that its got a half weighted crank shaft. N/A power is mostly made with RPMs, and the half weighted crank shaft exponentially robs you of HP as you go up the rpm range.

[jrsink]

Megasquirt 2? <--- Kicks ***.

If you have MS2 then go for it, best bang for the buck option ever. I did this myself and loved it for a while. You should mod the stock distributor or use the Ford EDIS system with MS, that should be how its setup on the CA. Ford EDIS + MS2 = win for any vehicle.

A dude named Greaser has a N/A Ka thats hitting right about 200 WHP with ITB's and all the trimmings. The thing thats painful about n/a ka is the fact that its got a half weighted crank shaft. N/A power is mostly made with RPMs, and the half weighted crank shaft exponentially robs you of HP as you go up the rpm range.

ms2 yes sir and ford escort EDIS already wired and ready to go. worked great on my CA. i want to do high comp pistons with a lightweight drivetrain, should be retarded responsive. ive read greaser setup, super cool stuff. stay posted guys. im gonna setup the itb on a stock comp motor first, while i get cams and high comp pistons together. ive heard you can use sohc pistons for getto (super cheap) high comp...

[480sx]

You can. You should look into E85 if this is a track car or not your daily, its the ****. MS2 is also flex fuel capable, you just have to be crafty to set it up that way.

[-RJ-]

[the converted]

With a pulsar t28 on a dynopack I would think it's possible. I came into this thread thinking I would see some fun stuff on a Megasuirt, but I guess I was wrong.

Can we get this tread back on track now?

[480sx]

Yea this thread has real potential, im gona try to get a mod to edit this crap out.

[jbracy7]

i tried ms before i recomend geting the prebuilt one it's a lot easier to use

[jrsink]

hahahaha wow. i just got back on here after awhile jeeez...let me get martin to email me that dyno...

still got plans for the ka itb,mite build a high comp bottom tho.not sure yet

[the converted]

Yea this thread has real potential, im gona try to get a mod to edit this crap out.

I got you.

[480sx]

i tried ms before i recomend geting the prebuilt one it's a lot easier to use

Agreed. I mean the DIY kit is only ~100 bucks cheaper, and you have to buy a Stim board to make sure that you built it right so your really not saving any money, but your spending a lot of time for nothing other than the satisfaction of saying you build your ecu heh.

If your going all out, do a high comp build and run MS2, flex fuel mod with E85 for starters. You will need to find a really good tuner and your car will be a monster.

Thanks Convert.

[the converted]

i tried ms before i recomend geting the prebuilt one it's a lot easier to use

I would actually recommend that you assemble it yourself. You learn a lot about electronics in assembling it, and is helpful if you need to do modifications to it for some features, of just to make it work right in general. It's kind of the fun in running a Megasquirt in the first place, or at least that is what I think.

If you don't want to assemble it I can save you a few buck and do it for a little cheaper.

[jbracy7]

how are you gonna set up the itb's on your set up

[jrsink]

how are you gonna set up the itb's on your set up

like this: half ka intake manifold, half suzuki 750 gsxr itbs setup

and like i said before it will be running on my existing MS2 setup that previously ran my ca18det. i just need to get a new trigger wheel to fit my KA crank pulley and get it tuned.im not gonna drop too much money into the project tho becuase over everything, my main purpose with cars (240s) is drifting/sliding in the florida scene again. it would be kool to have a built motor again, but i dont mind replacing blown KA's every 6 months or year (although ive been blowing them up A LOT LATELY (2 ka's killed last year, and one ca) after only a couple months usage lol).and eveyone around here is about sr's so ka are plentiful for 2-400 bux any day.im gonna grab some cams, bigger injectors, and have a custom header/exhaust fabbed up. should be able to hit around 200 to the wheels after its tuned (although i know most people dont think a na ka can get over 170 hp to the wheels).

i really dont plan on turboing ever, but a high comp bottom end would be cool to work on to up the power and realiability of the bottom end one day. well see waht happens

[the converted]

No need for a new wheel on a KA. All you need is the inner ring that's already there.

[jrsink]

No need for a new wheel on a KA. All you need is the inner ring that's already there.

awesuuum! yeah, i didnt think about that, i dont have any ka laying around right now to look at lol.

oh, and ive been doing alot of research, a local guy named funk had a 170 whp ka hatch that only had intake exhaust and an enthalpy tune. should def be able to squeeze out a little more hp with bigger injenctors, cams (not sure if i wana use stage 1 or stage 2 (of 3) BC cams, and the ITBS OF COURSE. reguarless of wether this thing hits 200 whp with all that, YOU KNOW ITS GONNA BE ONE seriously FREAKIN RESPONSIVE MOTOR, perfect for instant torque appplicatuion for better drifter and also the torque curve will be much mellower than my last engine ca18det with a t28.

cant wait to drive again!!! its been about a month

[jbracy7]

hope the set up works and the best of luck to you. after the itb's it's not going to be streetable at all

[uraznfriend]

(although i know most people dont think a na ka can get over 170 hp to the wheels).

my dreams are ruined << (poor high school kid)i love itbs, would you like to walk me through your project so one day i might be able to do this?

[jrsink]

my dreams are ruined << (poor high school kid)i love itbs, would you like to walk me through your project so one day i might be able to do this?

just found some awesum news today!

i think it's greaser's car, not sure i cant get into nicoclub.com for some reason, but his most recent dyno shows him puttin down about 22o whp NA KA with ITB's tuned. not sure what all he's running like injectors, engine management, or cams, but he overbored .06, used 10.5 wiseco pistons, and a thicker head gasket to hit 221whp.

here's the amazing dynos! enjoy. im hyped!

DISCUSS

[PHeller]

What were the mods on the "old engine"?

I'm wondering how much can be made just on using MS2 on the stock motor. Think Intake/Header/Exhaust and 30mpg tune?

[Bigvinnie]

i tuned the car it made 234 whp at 7 pounds, freakin amazing! plus i have one of the best tuners around for the job MARTIN at ZFEVER in tampa florida.

hahahaha wow. i just got back on here after awhile jeeez...let me get martin to email me that dyno...

[jrsink]

lol im actually goin up to zfever to pick up the dyno now. there printer was broke when i got it tuned last month.

[jrsink]

What were the mods on the "old engine"?

I'm wondering how much can be made just on using MS2 on the stock motor. Think Intake/Header/Exhaust and 30mpg tune?

i havnt ran a ka with my megasqurirt before, it ran a ca18det. you can get up to like 170 whp on a ka with just intake exhaust and tune. u really need headwork, pistons, overbore, cams, injectors, itbs and a fresh tune to make it super potent!i plan on doinh sohc pistons in a dohc block, s14 head ported and polished, new bearings, stage 2 cams, 385cc injetctors, and custom long tube ehhaust man to get up to 220whp with a na ka. should be insane!

[jrsink]

[QUOTE=Bigvinnie][/QUOTE]here you go man!

223 whp on my ca18det with pulsar t28 running on megasquirt.walboro. fmic. wideband. no injectors, no cams. ford escort EDIS4.8 pounds of boost. holy sheeit!

tuned by martin at ZFEVER in tampa florida!



Modified by jrsink at 7:39 PM 1/23/2009
Modified by jrsink at 1:28 PM 1/26/2009

[Bigvinnie]

here you go man!

223 whp on my ca18det with pulsar t28 running on megasquirt. no injectors, no cams. 8 pounds of boost. holy sheeit!

tuned by martin at ZFEVER in tampa florida!

223 whp at 8 PSI on a T28 is much more believable, than 234 WHP at 7 PSI. Thank you for sheding some light and relative truth.

[the converted]

That was "tuned"?

[jrsink]

That was "tuned"?

yep,why?

[the converted]

That graph is pretty jagged, definitely better than the first run but still looks like you could have used a little tweaking.

[liquid_cool]

That graph is pretty jagged, definitely better than the first run but still looks like you could have used a little tweaking.

ya he's rite man..lots of vallys there ..some big ones too..maybe a change in intake..or exahust ..or timing...or it might be your fuel /air ratio at diferent rpm ranges...definitly room to work with thou.