? about clutch

[capowered240]

I 've been seaching. I just put in a brand new xtd stage 1 clutch. I bypassed the damper box and just ran the clutch line straight to the slave cylinder. Anyway, Took it out around the block and clutch engages just about at the top. Also I did a half throttle run which it felt good, it didn't slip any, but next run I did a full throttle run and it felt like it was slipping. Would a clutch adjustment help?

[themadscientist]

Don't beat on it yet, let it get bedded in. Take it easy the first day or so.

[float_6969]

The general rule for break in is actually 500miles. That means no full throttle and not quick engagements. In town is actually best.

Mine engages up near the top as well. It's a SPEC Stage III.

There is a guideline for adjusting the clutch pedal in the FSM.

[capowered240]

Alright thanks guys. I'll just adjust and take it easy for awhile.

[turbo-111]

i was reading and just want confermation..... the clutch and flywheel from the 89+ 240sx will fit the ca18det right... i read it on club s12 about what was interchangable on the s12

[RS12Turbo]

i read it on club s12 about what was interchangable on the s12

the s12 ca18et clutch fits and works with with the ca18det flywheel.......which is what I'm using on mine

[turbo-111]

but want the ka24 work too

[Logan76]

How's that spec float? I plan on getting one in Febuary.

[ca18datsun510]

i was reading and just want confermation..... the clutch and flywheel from the 89+ 240sx will fit the ca18det right... i read it on club s12 about what was interchangable on the s12

ok, since i like the s12, ill break this down for you.

ca flywheel---->ka24(d)e clutch kit works, minus one dowel, or drill a hole for it in the pressure plate.ca flywheel---->ca18et clutchsr rwd flywheel----->sr rwd clutch+ starter from 85 s12 with sohc

KA FLYWHEEL WILL NOT WORK THE BOLT PATTERN IS DIFFERENT ON THE CRANK.

[Logan76]

What do you guys mean by minus 1 dowl or drill a hole in the pressure plate, I really dont wanna be drilling holes in a brand new 400$ clutch, nor do I wanna have it not bolted down correctly.

[rotorific]

To cut down on the BS it boils down that the only replacement for CA18 clutch/flywheel is aCA18 clutch/flywheel. That is oem spec/quality.

Now what people are saying is that you can buy a KA clutch and take a guide pin out of the flywheel because the KA clutch does not line upperfectly to the CA flywheel. It is really harmless and does not take away the balance of the drivetrain. I just prefer to save my money and get a CA designed product.

-Gabe

[float_6969]

How's that spec float? I plan on getting one in Febuary.

It works great. I've speed shifted with it multiple times w/o any issues.

The pedal feel is VERY light, which may take some getting used to.

Also the engagement point is WAY up at the top of the pedal throw, not down at the bottom like it should be. I never could figure this out. I'd adjusted the pedal every way it can be adjusted and never could get it right. I suspect that the clutch may have been designed for a stepped flywheel, but I don't know why as I don't think the CA is supposed to use a stepped flywheel.

What do you guys mean by minus 1 dowl or drill a hole in the pressure plate, I really dont wanna be drilling holes in a brand new 400$ clutch, nor do I wanna have it not bolted down correctly.

First of all, SPEC makes a CA specific clutch, so I don't know what you're worried about.

Secondly, if you're THAT concerned about modifying the flywheel or balance problems, simply remove all of the alignment pins. They are simply tapped in there. They are only there to help you get the pressure plate bolted up to the flywheel. After that they serve no purpose.

[ca18datsun510]

Secondly, if you're THAT concerned about modifying the flywheel or balance problems, simply remove all of the alignment pins. They are simply tapped in there. They are only there to help you get the pressure plate bolted up to the flywheel. After that they serve no purpose.

thats not true. i made the mistake of saying that in sarcasm once, and got a good lashing from someone who takes thier forum life to seriously.

[ch187]

ok, since i like the s12, ill break this down for you.

ca flywheel---->ka24(d)e clutch kit works, minus one dowel, or drill a hole for it in the pressure plate.ca flywheel---->ca18et clutchsr rwd flywheel----->sr rwd clutch+ starter from 85 s12 with sohc

KA FLYWHEEL WILL NOT WORK THE BOLT PATTERN IS DIFFERENT ON THE CRANK.

this is not true. someone once told me you could use an sr flywheel and clutch but you have to use the starter also. i got all the parts but when i went to fit the starter, it didnt even fit because they are two completely different style starters. i used the ca starter and it worked fine. im using a complete sr driveline minus the bellhousing. SR flywheel bolts fit fine, SR flywheel and clutch, and an s14 sr gearbox. i had to find out the hard way but you can use the ca starter with the sr flywheel and clutch.

[float_6969]

You don't use the SR starter. You're supposed to use a noseless gear reduction starter from a CA18E(T) out of an S12.

The person doing this said the nose of the regular CA18 starter rubbed on the flywheel.

[float_6969]

AFAIK, it wasn't me.

I've never done this, so I can't personally attest to it, but I know that multiple members have w/o any problems that I'm aware of.

I intend on running a KA24DE CF DFC for my next clutch and doing exactly as others have.

[Not_a_sr]

your main problem is that you bought a ebay XTD clutch, i have had a few customers pay me labor on clutch jobs twice once to install it, and then to reinstall a second clutch a few weeks later because it wont hold up to even mild boost.

Yes the spec clutches are meant for stepped flywheels!!!! 5-7 thousandths step is what i put on all our 240 flywheels.

[float_6969]

I suspected that, but there wasn't any info with the clutch that stated that when I bought it.

As I said before, it grips just fine, and having the flywheel NOT stepped when it should be would be the only thing that would move the friction point up to where mine is at.

[Logan76]

Ah float, I was getting the CA specific Spec, but I was talking about other KA clutches when I made that comment.

[ch187]

AFAIK, it wasn't me.

I've never done this, so I can't personally attest to it, but I know that multiple members have w/o any problems that I'm aware of.

I intend on running a KA24DE CF DFC for my next clutch and doing exactly as others have.

yeah i know what you mean. the guy i talked to told me i needed the sr starter. i brought that up to state the fact that i had to use the original ca starter and that it worked perfectly. you cant judge something like that based on one occurance. and come to think of it, wouldnt it be the same starter anyway? same block, same engine basically? my brother asked me what i would do if my starter went bad (bashing the ca because hes jealous) and i told him that i would buy an s12 one. so i mean either one would work. and if his ca starter was rubbing on his flywheel, a simple shim would have fixed it. most starters require them anyway.

[ca18datsun510]

this is not true. someone once told me you could use an sr flywheel and clutch but you have to use the starter also. i got all the parts but when i went to fit the starter, it didnt even fit because they are two completely different style starters. i used the ca starter and it worked fine. im using a complete sr driveline minus the bellhousing. SR flywheel bolts fit fine, SR flywheel and clutch, and an s14 sr gearbox. i had to find out the hard way but you can use the ca starter with the sr flywheel and clutch.

i didnt say to use sr starter, i said to use the s12 sohc ca starter, it is true, i have it.

[ca18datsun510]

yeah i know what you mean. the guy i talked to told me i needed the sr starter. i brought that up to state the fact that i had to use the original ca starter and that it worked perfectly. you cant judge something like that based on one occurance. and come to think of it, wouldnt it be the same starter anyway? same block, same engine basically? my brother asked me what i would do if my starter went bad (bashing the ca because hes jealous) and i told him that i would buy an s12 one. so i mean either one would work. and if his ca starter was rubbing on his flywheel, a simple shim would have fixed it. most starters require them anyway.

there are 2 different styles of ca starters, gear reduction, and direct.

i have never heard anyone say to use sr starter, i dont think it will even fit against the block.

[RS12Turbo]

The cast of the ca18et and ca18det blocks are the same.......but thats it. The number of teeth on the ca18et's flywheel are different than on the ca-det flywheel, and the same with the et and det starters.....different number of teeth. I know on club s12 there are a couple of people that tried the ca18et or ca20 starter on the det, and said they wouldn't work. Now maybe it's got something to do with a possible difference between mk1 and mk2 s12 starters.....i dunno......because the mk1 s12 got the B transmission, and mk2 got the C transmission.....so it's possible that the mk2 starters will work, since the det has the C transmission too. I didn't even compare my mk1 starter to the ca-det starter when I did my swap......all I know is that my ca18et center force dual friction clutch works perfectly fine on the det flywheel using the s12 B transmission

[float_6969]

The changing of starters is when you are trying to use the SR20DET flywheel and clutch. The diameter is different and the tooth count is different.

[Scotty Dont]

Out of curiousity, why would anybody go the way of sourcing an SR flywheel, then getting an SR clutch and also having to get a different starter when you can simply get the KA clutch and subtract a dowel pin? Seems so unnecessary.

[davidricardo86]

Out of curiousity, why would anybody go the way of sourcing an SR flywheel, then getting an SR clutch and also having to get a different starter when you can simply get the KA clutch and subtract a dowel pin? Seems so unnecessary.

Simply because of the possible clutch options that are available for the SR.

[Scotty Dont]

I guess. It just seems you can get most of the same clutches these days for a KA.

[ch187]

Out of curiousity, why would anybody go the way of sourcing an SR flywheel, then getting an SR clutch and also having to get a different starter when you can simply get the KA clutch and subtract a dowel pin? Seems so unnecessary.

alright heres how it went. i ordered a ca clip from a company. they sent me the clip, all was good except for it being automatic. he said he ****ed up and would buy me all the parts i would need to get going. so he sent me the sr trans he had lying around, bought me a bellhousing, and i saw on 240forums that you could use the sr clutch and fly with the sr starter. thats just what someone said. so he said i dont have the ca clutch parts but he had the sr ones. he sent me the clutch flywheel starter and flywheel bolts for free. and no the sr starter didnt even begin to fit against the block. the ca18det starter will work with an sr20det flyhweel and clutch. promise

[ca18datsun510]

Out of curiousity, why would anybody go the way of sourcing an SR flywheel, then getting an SR clutch and also having to get a different starter when you can simply get the KA clutch and subtract a dowel pin? Seems so unnecessary.

becuase there us are a wide variety of light weight flywheels and clutch kits available for the sr.

with ka clutch you are still using the heavy *** hugenormous ca flywheel.

[Scotty Dont]

becuase there us are a wide variety of light weight flywheels and clutch kits available for the sr.

with ka clutch you are still using the heavy *** hugenormous ca flywheel.

well that makes sense now.