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yeah i know the info didnt come with the clutch, i had the machine shop look it up for various nissans and most used a 5-7 thousandths so i figure nissan likes to make things similar on almost everything they make they probably did with the flywheel too.
float_6969 wrote:I suspected that, but there wasn't any info with the clutch that stated that when I bought it.

As I said before, it grips just fine, and having the flywheel NOT stepped when it should be would be the only thing that would move the friction point up to where mine is at.


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Scotty Dont wrote:Out of curiousity, why would anybody go the way of sourcing an SR flywheel, then getting an SR clutch and also having to get a different starter when you can simply get the KA clutch and subtract a dowel pin? Seems so unnecessary.
Because SR clutch discs are 240mm, KA/CA are 225mm......bigger surface area (assuming you are using identical materials when comparing KA/CA vs SR) means more grabbing power.........plus there are more hi performance makes for SR clutches and flywheels.

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mbmbmb23 wrote:
Because SR clutch discs are 240mm, KA/CA are 225mm......bigger surface area when using identical materials means more grabbing power.........plus there are more hi performance makes for SR clutches and flywheels.

-m
oh really now... i didnt know that. that makes it that much better.

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hmmmm... Dowel pins look like hardened steel. I'm not so sure they'd use that material 'solely' for alignment purposes... or is it for handling them (fitting/removal) ?The cover plate bolts appear to be a low grade material - suffient for the low tq specified to secure the pressure plate, but I'm wondering if they wouldn't fail in shear, in abscence of the dowel pins. I guess a 'hot' ca18 would tell ya.I know they're under more stress closer to centerline, but flywheel bolts are a tougher grade with a 'tight' fit & higher tq tightening spec.

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I think the pins are hardened steel because they are press fit into the flywheel and a cheaper/softer steel would deform when pressed in.

I agree that they could be there to accept some of the sheer loads from the pressure plate, but considering their size, I don't think they could be THAT much.

And as previously stated, there have been MULTIPLE members running KA plates with no alignment pins, or one pin removed for quite some time and I've NEVER heard of any issues.

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i used high grade bolts for my pressure plate. i also kept 2 pins i believe, and they do contribute to the shear strength of the pressure plate. having none in there would worry me a little.

how many people have done centerforce clutches with the centrifical weight systems on the pressure plate fingers?

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Not_a_sr wrote:how many people have done centerforce clutches with the centrifical weight systems on the pressure plate fingers?
Thats what I'm using

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Not_a_sr wrote:i used high grade bolts for my pressure plate. i also kept 2 pins i believe, and they do contribute to the shear strength of the pressure plate. having none in there would worry me a little.

how many people have done centerforce clutches with the centrifical weight systems on the pressure plate fingers?
Im also using a Centerforce DF clutch for the ka24de. I had to drill the holes a little bit. Clutch feels great, engages from the bottom, and holds lots of torque! Im still using my clutch damper but replaced the slave cylinder and hydraulic line to a stainless steel unit. Bleeding the clutch sucked but i finally got it good with a vacuum pump and lots of pedal pushing. Cant really complain about anything besides the fact that i had to drill shiit. Next time ill just get the ca18et version.

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ahhh this is confusing.

I want to go SR flywheel/clutch on my ca18det.

One person says, that with an s14 bellhousing, his ca18det starter works no problem.

Everyone else says you need the starter off an 85 ca18et.

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you cant use s14 bellhousing. s14 = ka/sr which does not bolt to ca.

just order a clutch and flywheel for a ca.

everyone is gonna tell you something different. people tell me im wrong, while im driving my car that has the parts installed, that they say dont fit.

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ca18datsun510 wrote:you cant use s14 bellhousing. s14 = ka/sr which does not bolt to ca.

just order a clutch and flywheel for a ca.

everyone is gonna tell you something different. people tell me im wrong, while im driving my car that has the parts installed, that they say dont fit.
Yup just get the CA version for simplicity and get the SR clutch/FW for the extra performance options.


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