A/C vs. G35

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=PyWUj8kUKsM

....hmmm the dude won off the line...but I'm curious if he'd win in the quarter mile..and funny; I didn't see a green light when the A/C took off...did he get a head start?


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prlwhitecoupe wrote:http://youtube.com/watch?v=PyWUj8kUKsM

....hmmm the dude won off the line...but I'm curious if he'd win in the quarter mile..and funny; I didn't see a green light when the A/C took off...did he get a head start?
I've heard of a number of instances where 3.5 A/C's have beaten G35's, well at least 2006 and earlier models... I don't think it would happen to a 2007 G35... but in any case, what does this really prove? This is almost like racing two G35's or two A/C's. It's the same engine just tuned slightly differently, and I would think that an A/C with an intake would give it those extra couple hp at the wheels that would really make it a pretty evenly matched race!

Here in San Diego, a stock Nissan Sentra SE-R beat a G35, not sure of it was off the line or on a course, but in any case, a W is a W. And from listening to Ryan, it was a fair fight, no head starts or anything!

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Well then, thats awesome.

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My best freind has an auto g35 2003 and i romp on him w/ my cvt A.C

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my friend also have an auto 2003 G35 and looking at the 0-60 results it seemed that he won't be much faster than me. I'll have to find an empty lot and try to race him one of these days

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johhny, an 03 g35.. is it stock? Is it auto? My guess is that 4 + years of wear and tear on that engine coupled with the superior CVT over the auto transmission, coupled with your intake... yeah, I think you'd get him!

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prlwhitecoupe wrote:http://youtube.com/watch?v=PyWUj8kUKsM

....hmmm the dude won off the line...but I'm curious if he'd win in the quarter mile..and funny; I didn't see a green light when the A/C took off...did he get a head start?
the reason you can't see the green light is because my camera was on night mode being it was night time. if you've ever been out to the track theres a six light start. the 1st means you're close to the line. the 2nd means your exactly on the line. the third is actually the first of the go lights and the 6th is Green and go, but you can't really tell the color being cam was in night mode. notice you didn't see a red light at the bottom (which would mean an early take off foul) and our launch/reaction times were within .100 of each other which would not qualify as a head start. and about the quarter mile? i reached 82 mph to his 77 mph thru the 1/8 and was continuosly pulling away so it would have only gotten uglier for the infinity that was (so i was told) an 05 with low miles and after market dual air intakes.

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it's stock auto, he told me he had an intake, no exhaust but I haven't checked we'll see, hopefully my stock tires won't be an issue

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08altima35 wrote:
the reason you can't see the green light is because my camera was on night mode being it was night time. if you've ever been out to the track theres a six light start. the 1st means you're close to the line. the 2nd means your exactly on the line. the third is actually the first of the go lights and the 6th is Green and go, but you can't really tell the color being cam was in night mode. notice you didn't see a red light at the bottom (which would mean an early take off foul) and our launch/reaction times were within .100 of each other which would not qualify as a head start. and about the quarter mile? i reached 82 mph to his 77 mph thru the 1/8 and was continuosly pulling away so it would have only gotten uglier for the infinity that was (so i was told) an 05 with low miles and after market dual air intakes.
you think he had a system? i wonder why it was so one sided... i would expect a better contest from the legendary G

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Well my good friends don't forget about the weight of the cars i believe the a/c weighs less than a G.. weight plays a big part in racing something like a volkswagon GTI or an dodge Srt-4 doesnt have a V6 with a lot of horses but they will take flight so sumtimes horsepower doesnt matter

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you're right, but the thing is, all of the reviews claim the G to have a slightly better 1/4 mile time than the A/C... this doesn't seem to be holding up in real world!

0-60 times on a dyno can also be deceiving due to the weight issues that you mentioned!

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An 07 G35 Coupe and the AC have similar 0-60 times (5.5 for the G, 5.7 for the AC) so it would come down to the driver if the cars were evenly matched (assuming that G is an 07).http://www.performancecarnews....Table

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ACoupe wrote:An 07 G35 Coupe and the AC have similar 0-60 times (5.5 for the G, 5.7 for the AC) so it would come down to the driver if the cars were evenly matched (assuming that G is an 07).http://www.performancecarnews....Table
Actually, you were looking at the G35 coupe with MT, the Auto Trans was rated slower at 6.1s...

Also, regarding a 1/4 mile race, 0-60 times aren't as important. Even if cars get to 60 around the same amount of time, acceleration curves can change drastically given HP and torque at higher speeds.

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Even so, the 07 Coupe has more horsepower and similar torque ratings.You should race a comparable car. The 07 manual Coupe versus the AC CVT (CVT having faster times than the AC manual, correct?).The 07 G Sedan is faster than the G Coupe in both the 0-60 and the quarter mile, go figure.


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ACoupe wrote:Even so, the 07 Coupe has more horsepower and similar torque ratings.You should race a comparable car. The 07 manual Coupe versus the AC CVT (CVT having faster times than the AC manual, correct?).The 07 G Sedan is faster than the G Coupe in both the 0-60 and the quarter mile, go figure.
hmm, I thought the A/C with manual trans. was a bit quicker than the CVT...in any case, the 07 sedan has 306 hp, thus the faster time!

The VQ35DE in the 07 Infiniti G35 sedan is tuned exactly like the VQ35HR in the 08 Nissan 350Z... 306 HP, 268 ft.lb. torque

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ACoupe wrote:Even so, the 07 Coupe has more horsepower and similar torque ratings.You should race a comparable car. The 07 manual Coupe versus the AC CVT (CVT having faster times than the AC manual, correct?).
LOL. CVT faster than 6MT version? not happening zer...29094

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I wasn't sure, hence the question mark.

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then again those 6MT number come from professional drivers. The average everyday person doesn't shift like a R&T or C&D proffesional driver. We'll see at the meet this weekend. I will take on a Manual and see if its really that much faster.

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adidas2go wrote:then again those 6MT number come from professional drivers. The average everyday person doesn't shift like a R&T or C&D proffesional driver. We'll see at the meet this weekend. I will take on a Manual and see if its really that much faster.
not fair... stock vs Borla... what you thought we forgot??? lol

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hopefully I can get my Stillen installed and tinted by this weekend

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What in the hell are those douche bags up to??

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I was talking with a G owner the other day, and I was told that the 2003 - 2006 G35 numbers for HP rating were under the older, "inflated" numbers being reported. Thus the actualy HP numbers under the now universal ratings would have been about 10 hp lower... any truth to this? has anyone else heard the same thing? It was my impression that Nissan/Infiniti were NOT in the habit of inflating their engine ratings...

If so, perhaps this goes along way to explaing why the stock A/C's are beating the stock G35's in head to head races. (Even HP + extra weight with the G, + more advanced CVT transmission vs the automatic in the G's)... any thoughts?

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I have driven g35s Coupes and sedans, 350z's....None of them seemed to have a clear power advantave over the Altima....However..RWD kicks arse

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lol i actually raced a G35 the other night (i was going to talk about it in my exhaust cutouts post since he gave me the idea because his friend has it on a TC). i went to the store with 2 of my friends (one of them is 6'4, over 200 pounds). saw the G35 and tried to race but he got me every time (not super badly tho). when we saw it was my friend's friend, we had 1 guy get in the G35 and then raced and i got him every time! it was very close though. turn off the traction control, do a little burn out (not insane smoke, just to warm the tires), step on the brake and give it gas to about 2500 RPMs and just floor the gas in "D". with the tires warm you can launch it like that with no wheel spin.

all i have is a 2.5" cat-back to the stock muffler, thinking about getting a G35 muffler and then just have exhaust cutouts for when i want to race.... ill see if i can get a vid of me and the 2004 auto G35 coupe one of these days

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I always wanted a G35...Then after having a GTO for 2 years...I could never own one...Just seems so underpowered for the money..My 04 GTO would destroy it

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wild willy wrote:I always wanted a G35...Then after having a GTO for 2 years...I could never own one...Just seems so underpowered for the money..My 04 GTO would destroy it
400 vs 280 .. i would think so... how did you like the handling of your GTO. I spoke with a DTO owner, and he stated that HP on straightway was great, but the suspension was not the best, especially for cornering at high speeds... what do you think?

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Mine was 350 horse, I had the 04 LS1. The suspension was fine for me...Our roads in PA are horrible....It road like a much bigger car as far as smoothness..It was much quieter than the G35 as well. I really did not do much high speed cornering..But as a cruiser and daily driver..It was awsome... You could sit in those seats for 10 hours at a time no problem....

I went through 4 sets of rear tires in 17,000 miles.. I really enjoyed it....

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wild willy wrote:I always wanted a G35...Then after having a GTO for 2 years...I could never own one...Just seems so underpowered for the money..My 04 GTO would destroy it
Yes but with a g35 you're paying for the quality and luxury of the car, it's the same way with the euro cars, ex, Bmw,Merc same way they offer little power for the money. While i think American cars are disposable they have always been the best for cheap power.

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Have you every been in a GTO? The interior and materials are better than the G....Much better in my opinion...This is not an American made car..It is made in A.ustralia by Holden and rebadged as a pontiac

Now the G has more options available as far as gadgets....

I have sadi it before...The perfect car....G35 Body on the GTO frame with interior and motor.

Go sit in one...feel the dash..feel the door pannels and the carpet..Feel the leather and the shift knob..Look at the pedals....The start it...and move the stering wheel up or you d!ck will hit it when it pops up


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