A/C vs. G35

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wild willy wrote:and move the stering wheel up or you d!ck will hit it when it pops up
ummmm, that's just TMI!!!


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rjdmmfl1 wrote:
ummmm, that's just TMI!!!
Yes it is..But that is the only way I can accurately express my feelings for the GTO.....

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wild willy wrote:Have you every been in a GTO? The interior and materials are better than the G....Much better in my opinion...This is not an American made car..It is made in A.ustralia by Holden and rebadged as a pontiac

Now the G has more options available as far as gadgets....

I have sadi it before...The perfect car....G35 Body on the GTO frame with interior and motor.

Go sit in one...feel the dash..feel the door pannels and the carpet..Feel the leather and the shift knob..Look at the pedals....The start it...and move the stering wheel up or you d!ck will hit it when it pops up
Yes i"ve seen the interior and it still looks cheap, and very basic. the Gto/Holden company is Owned by GM, uses a Ls1 GM engine with mostly Gm parts, so it's american.

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MagicM wrote:
Yes i"ve seen the interior and it still looks cheap, and very basic.
Basic........I'll give ya..

Cheap..Not even close

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The Older g35's were really cheap as well, but the new ones are completely different.

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MagicM wrote:The Older g35's were really cheap as well, but the new ones are completely different.
That's what I have heard...Have not got to get into a new one

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well manual is ove faster than automatic however not that times have changed and ther is now CVT and thews new things coming about manual is only slightly faster than the cvt... i like manual because the quicker your shift the better the response from the car... if you **** on point and watch ur rpm and shift on point ju will take flight no doubt about it... thats if u only know what ur doing

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2004 GTO Specs:0-60: 5.3-5.41/4 mile: 13.52 seconds

2007 G35 Coupe:0-60: 5.51/4 mile: roughly 14 (or high 13's)

SO I think the term "would destroy the G35" is a bit of an over-exaggeration when it comes to their match-up (and I'm willing to bet the 07's Sport handling would give it an edge over the GTO in the turns).

As for the 35's interior being "cheap", it's far from that. It's simply not up to the standards of other cars in it's class.The G37 has addressed that in spades and sports a beautiful interior, more than worthy of the price paid.

Don't forget, the G35 was the first gen of it's kind for Infiniti/Nissan. I think they knocked it out of the park for being a first attempt. The 37 is a really nice progression, although they seriously need to slim it down. Too porky for a Coupe and if it shed a few hundred pounds would be more than worthy of giving the 335i a beating.

The GTO on the other hand, has a fantastic engine, surrounded by the standard Pontiac-ugly exterior, and interior (though the build quality is excellent). You might as well call it a Grand Am for the quality of the exterior (and that is NOT a compliment), simply hideous and un-deserving of the GTO branding.

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ACoupe wrote:2004 GTO Specs:0-60: 5.3-5.41/4 mile: 13.52 seconds

2007 G35 Coupe:0-60: 5.51/4 mile: roughly 14 (or high 13's)

SO I think the term "would destroy the G35" is a bit of an over-exaggeration when it comes to their match-up (and I'm willing to bet the 07's Sport handling would give it an edge over the GTO in the turns).

As for the 35's interior being "cheap", it's far from that. It's simply not up to the standards of other cars in it's class.The G37 has addressed that in spades and sports a beautiful interior, more than worthy of the price paid.

Don't forget, the G35 was the first gen of it's kind for Infiniti/Nissan. I think they knocked it out of the park for being a first attempt. The 37 is a really nice progression, although they seriously need to slim it down. Too porky for a Coupe and if it shed a few hundred pounds would be more than worthy of giving the 335i a beating.

The GTO on the other hand, has a fantastic engine, surrounded by the standard Pontiac-ugly exterior, and interior (though the build quality is excellent). You might as well call it a Grand Am for the quality of the exterior (and that is NOT a compliment), simply hideous and un-deserving of the GTO branding.
G35 cp is not getting to 60in 5.5 on its best day.

All I can tell you.Is drive them back to back...........

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wild willy wrote:
G35 cp is not getting to 60in 5.5 on its best day.

All I can tell you.Is drive them back to back...........
willy, remember the 2007 G35 coupe with manual transmission was tuned to 293 hp

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it also got heavier no???? Than 06

The massive torque numbers of the GTO (LS1-LS2) make a big difference..


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Quote »"G35 cp is not getting to 60in 5.5 on its best day."[/quote]It indeed can, and has:http://www.performancecarnews....Table

No weight difference between the '06 and the 07'.

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And that chart also states that the 2008 GTO can hit a 0-60 in 4.6 (estimated), so the 08 vs. 08 would be moot.

I still don't know why there is a Porsche-like stigma on the G35. It was never designed to be a sport rocket.It's a luxury coupe, which is quick, but not blazingly fast.

You want that, buy the GTR (which I'd love to give serious thought to, if any make their way up here), which would chew just about anything you can throw at it.

If I wanted retro muscle I'd buy the Shelby GT500 or the upcoming Challenger. Two cars that are nice and fast and pay tribute to classic style.Or, I'd buy a Vette, or if I had the money, the Ford GT.

But I love the G, and what it's becoming in the 37, and I understand what kind of car it is, without delusions.

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Yeah willy, no weight difference between the various years of G35, G37 is a little heavier.

2003 - 2006 G35 coupe - 275 hp engine VQ35DE2007 G35 coupe 275 hp auto, 293 hp manual VQ35DE2007 G35 sedan 306 hp, VQ35HR (same as in 350Z)2008 G37 coupe, 330 hp, VQ37HR

Also, A coupe, you're absolutely correct. When the G35 made its debut, there was nothing that sporty looking and nice in its class. The 2003 335i was just ugly, same old same old, and then infiniti took a shot at a luxury coupe, and knocked it out of the park! Remember, back in 2003, 275 hp in a luxury coupe at around $35,000 was pretty darn good!

That same year, the Lexus SC 430 coupe with similar luxury features and a claim of 300hp (which we now now was around 288hp) and they wanted $62,000.

So, all in all, in comparison to other vehicles in its class regarding price, performance, features, the 2003 - 2007 G35 was a nice piece of owrk, and it only got better with the G37

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ACoupe wrote:And that chart also states that the 2008 GTO can hit a 0-60 in 4.6 (estimated), so the 08 vs. 08 would be moot.

I still don't know why there is a Porsche-like stigma on the G35. It was never designed to be a sport rocket.It's a luxury coupe, which is quick, but not blazingly fast.

You want that, buy the GTR (which I'd love to give serious thought to, if any make their way up here), which would chew just about anything you can throw at it.

If I wanted retro muscle I'd buy the Shelby GT500 or the upcoming Challenger. Two cars that are nice and fast and pay tribute to classic style.Or, I'd buy a Vette, or if I had the money, the Ford GT.

But I love the G, and what it's becoming in the 37, and I understand what kind of car it is, without delusions.
First off there is no 08 GTO, 2004-2007! I also had a 2004 Pontiac GTO and the 350hp 365tq puts it out of reach of a stock G35. When it comes to modding the LS1/LS2 engines respond very well(corvette engine). Intake and headers and tune will get you 50hp at the wheels ect...Now onto interior comparing it to a Grand Am is a joke, the leather was way better then my Altima Coupes. The car is built in austraila by Holden and not your normal cheap GM crap. The dash materials are about the same as the altima, options were limited to keep the price down however.

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ACoupe wrote:2004 GTO Specs:0-60: 5.3-5.41/4 mile: 13.52 seconds

2007 G35 Coupe:0-60: 5.51/4 mile: roughly 14 (or high 13's)

SO I think the term "would destroy the G35" is a bit of an over-exaggeration when it comes to their match-up (and I'm willing to bet the 07's Sport handling would give it an edge over the GTO in the turns).

As for the 35's interior being "cheap", it's far from that. It's simply not up to the standards of other cars in it's class.The G37 has addressed that in spades and sports a beautiful interior, more than worthy of the price paid.

Don't forget, the G35 was the first gen of it's kind for Infiniti/Nissan. I think they knocked it out of the park for being a first attempt. The 37 is a really nice progression, although they seriously need to slim it down. Too porky for a Coupe and if it shed a few hundred pounds would be more than worthy of giving the 335i a beating.

The GTO on the other hand, has a fantastic engine, surrounded by the standard Pontiac-ugly exterior, and interior (though the build quality is excellent). You might as well call it a Grand Am for the quality of the exterior (and that is NOT a compliment), simply hideous and un-deserving of the GTO branding.
With a decent driver and no mods the GTO's put down 0-60mph in the 4.85-5 second mark and crack into the high 12's 1/4 mile then the difference is very clear. Also see my last post regarding the interior. When I was looking at cars in 2004 I did alot of comparing and was torn between the G35 and GTO, after the test drives it was a easy choice

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One of the most impressive things I can thik of with the GTO is the lack of rattles and squeeks. The car had none, anywhere...And if you knew what I did to that car..........

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wild willy wrote:One of the most impressive things I can thik of with the GTO is the lack of rattles and squeeks. The car had none, anywhere...And if you knew what I did to that car..........
LMAO in three years and 26,000 miles I went threw 4 sets of tires

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08Coupe wrote:
LMAO in three years and 26,000 miles I went threw 4 sets of tires
4 sets, 2 years, 17K miles here..............She was punished daily.....My driveway is still covered in her rubber

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Quote »"Now onto interior comparing it to a Grand Am is a joke, the leather was way better then my Altima Coupes. The car is built in austraila by Holden and not your normal cheap GM crap. The dash materials are about the same as the altima, options were limited to keep the price down however. "[/quote]I was talking LOOKS, appearance, etc. Read the post and it clearly states that. It's an ugly exterior with an ugly interior.

Quote »"First off there is no 08 GTO, 2004-2007!"[/quote]As I stated in my post, estimated time for the 08, indicating an upcoming model:http://www.motortrend.com/futu...c_gto/


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ACoupe wrote:I was talking LOOKS, appearance, etc. Read the post and it clearly states that. It's an ugly exterior with an ugly interior.
Now, I can understand the Exterior.......But the Interior??? Come on!! That is absurd. Go to a BMW Board and see what they have to say about it......Noting but good things. Any review you read on the interior will praise it........The exterior..Not so much...

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I can't get excited over any of the shots of the interior that I've seen.The quality may be fantastic, but I just find the interior to be ugly, no matter what the Bimmer folk say about it.

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ACoupe wrote:I can't get excited over any of the shots of the interior that I've seen.The quality may be fantastic, but I just find the interior to be ugly, no matter what the Bimmer folk say about it.
Ok...that's what makes the world go round...I like unclutterd, plain and tasteful interiors..............

It's really a car that you have to own......Then the love affair begins. It's kind of like havng an Ugly child.......

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I don't understand the hype around the comparison between these two cars. They both share similar engines and styling, anyone infinity car owner that calls a coupe fugly has issues or vice versa. I paid somewhere around $31k for my car; with respect to the G35, it should be on an even playing field as far as fit and finish and performance. But as stated before, RWD can't be replaced and is more of an enthusiast's car. I still believe with the same driver and manual transmissions, the G35 will see slightly better results avoiding wheel hop and being able to stick the launch. Once down the straight away results will be minimal.

I'm far from an expert, armature at best, but I do have a bit of drag racing and tuning experience with my previously modded car and some 10sec 1/4 muscle cars (trusted friend's). I had about a 21whp difference between my setup and a friend's (both driving turbo Scion tCs). Since I was pushing a larger A/R on the turbo I pulled ever so slightly from a roll of 30mph to 100. The A/C and G maybe be different cars but my bet is the better driver will win the race.

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Yes I remember...Nissan has tuned the shiat out of the vq over the years.......Hell how many increases and tunes did they do from 02 up and never got any faster........

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2105.shtml

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Quote »"It's really a car that you have to own......Then the love affair begins. It's kind of like havng an Ugly child......."[/quote]

I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from liking or enjoying the ride they have, even if my opinion comes across as rather strong. I just try and moderate fan enthusiasms for their cars with an objective view of things.


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It's all in fun..Hell when the car first came out and I saw it on the lot I said to my wife........You have got to be kidding me......Look at that cavalier with a v8.......

And for this reason...they could not sell them...

In 12-04 they gave them away.. I leased one for 2 yrs.....23 payments of 123.00 month. Zero down.......and when the lease was up they sent me a ck for about 180 bucks for a security deposit that I never put down....They put the money down with incentives

I figured I beat the hell out of it for 2 years and save my altima....

Well the car ruined me...I can not find a car that I drive that I want like that one

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A GTO hey….. I've driven a 350Z with an APS twin turbo kit and it is by far the most fun I've ever had driving a car. Even more so then the hopped up big block muscle cars I driven, much more friendly to corner with.

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Quote »"In 12-04 they gave them away.. I leased one for 2 yrs.....23 payments of 123.00 month. Zero down.......and when the lease was up they sent me a ck for about 180 bucks for a security deposit that I never put down....They put the money down with incentives"[/quote]Jeezum!That's cheap!


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ACoupe wrote:
Jeezum!That's cheap!
Yes....I could not believe it either.........That's why I did it.....I wish I would have bought it......But I did not know I would like it so much..I never drove it, looked at it, or shopped one. I saw an ad on TV, Called the dealer and they delivered it that night in a snow storm form over an hour away:)


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