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Bill O'Reilly

What an a$$hole

http://www.nydailynews.com/new....html

So a customer drives up to McDonalds (probably never saw Fast Food Nation) and places an order. The McDonalds employee takes her money and then informs the woman they are out of her McCuggets order and refuses to refund her money. The customer probably did not know the non emergency police telephone number and calls 911. She gets charged with misusing the emergency 911 system.

McDonalds finally refunds her money.

Bill O'Reilly calls her a pinhead.

I don't think so.

Bill is the pinhead!

Since when does a business in the United States take a customers money for an item they don't have and then refuse a customer requested refund?

Makes one want to switch back to MSNBC and watch Keith Olberman instead

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telcoman wrote:Since when does a business in the United States take a customers money for an item they don't have and then refuse a customer requested refund?
Latreasa Goodman wrote:"This is an emergency," Goodman told a Fort Pierce police dispatcher in one of the calls. "If I would have known they didn't have McNuggets, I wouldn't have given my money. And now she wants to give me a McDouble, but I don't want one."
How does that warrant a 911 Emergency?

Based on her mug shot she doesn't look like she's starving.



Further evidence of the the rampant sense of entitlement and continued wussification of America. McDonald's was in the wrong but Bill's right, she is a pinhead - she should have gone to Chick-Fil-A.

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If you read the transcript of the 911 call you see the first thing out of the woman's mouth is, "I have an emergency." I am sorry, McDonalds running out of McNuggets and the store not giving her money back is never an emergency. If she needed to get the non emergency number for the Police to handle this civil matter, she could have called '0' for the operator.

Also, from what I read, this was her 3rd violation? She is far more than a pinhead. In my book she is a s***head, for wasting our first responder's time. Far be it from me to defend the Leprechaun, but I have to side with him on this. BTW didnt NYC name a street after him for a week?

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Cold_Zero wrote:Far be it from me to defend the Leprechaun
I so forgot that people call him that.

Sounds like something Boortz came up with after the way I've heard him refer to Hannity as "Baby Jesus" and Savage as "The Antichrist".

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She's not a pinhead - she's a dumbass.

Someone that needed 911 could have been trying to call it but not get through because this 'pinhead' wasn't going to get her chicken nuggets.

Was McD's wrong? Yea. Did she need to call 911? Hell no.

Proper course of action - pull around, TALK TO THE MANAGER.

America is starting to suck.

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BusyBadger wrote:
I so forgot that people call him that.

Sounds like something Boortz came up with after the way I've heard him refer to Hannity as "Baby Jesus" and Savage as "The Antichrist".
I dont want to take away credit from Boortz, but I thought Savage coined the term Leprechaun when referring to OReilley. Savage is the one with code names for everyone. I love listening to Savage. Yes he may be polemic and a cranky old man, but he has no qualms with criticizing Republicans and Bush (for the last 7.5 years) when they drift away from the conservative ideology.

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Maybe that was the last money she had on this earth and maybe she had not eaten for 2 days. Hunger is an emergency, isn't it? Or, maybe she has a mental health issue and law enforcement have failed to identify the issue in the three times she has been cited
Modified by Jacko3 at 12:35 PM 3/5/2009

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Could be, could be. I love the in-fighting all the talkies have with each other, if they could array themselves against the left it would be a massacre!

Savage cracks me up but I can only listen to him in short bits, his venom changes the way I drive. But you are spot on about his not playing favourites, he calls everyone out no matter what - the way it should be.

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Jacko3 wrote:Or, maybe she has a mental health issue and law enforcement have failed to identify the issue in the three times she has been cited

Modified by Jacko3 at 12:35 PM 3/5/2009
Ding! I think you are on to something
BusyBadger wrote:Could be, could be. I love the in-fighting all the talkies have with each other, if they could array themselves against the left it would be a massacre!
Bill Bennett doesnt engage in said in-fighting.. But I know what you mean. Its a scrap to see who is king of the hill.

Quote »Savage cracks me up but I can only listen to him in short bits, his venom changes the way I drive. But you are spot on about his not playing favourites, he calls everyone out no matter what - the way it should be. [/quote]Me 2. I had to stop listening to him in the car when my daughter was born. I just dont think it’s appropriate for a young girl.

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Cold_Zero wrote:
Ding! I think you are on to something

Bill Bennett doesnt engage in said in-fighting.. But I know what you mean. Its a scrap to see who is king of the hill.

Me 2. I had to stop listening to him in the car when my daughter was born. I just dont think it’s appropriate for a young girl.
My good friend, well said!


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Telcoman is probably laughing at all of the replies. He can't be for real.

No one would come to the defense of a woman who used 911, taking available lines away from people who may be in life-threatening situations, to get her $6 back from a fast food joint.

Nope... can't be real.

As for Bill O, I bought his recent book. Like his others, its an entertaining and quick read. I liked his radio show but his TV show has gotten too soft.

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Jesda wrote:
As for Bill O, I bought his recent book. Like his others, its an entertaining and quick read. I liked his radio show but his TV show has gotten too soft.
I agree completly. I have yet to read his new one, been waiting to read his and Ann Coulter's new one back to back . But his show has really been getting soft. He doesn't "fight" like he used to, it seems like he's been giving alot more "free passes" than he used to. I'd rather watch Glenn Beck or Hanitty now.

As for the lady being a"pin-head" there really is no argument to support here. To call the police because McDonald's ran out of McNuggets and she won't get her $5 back is absurd. Maybe she should of used her brain and talked to the manager like everyone else said and not called the police for such a stupid thing. She is the princess of "pinheads" (just behind the Queens, Clinton and Pelosi).

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I think I've seen her on that TV show Parking Wars.

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I don't understand why they arrested her. All the 911 operator had to do is give her the number of the police if she wanted to file a complaint.

I think the 911 operator is the pin head. The police too.

The police are clearly protecting corporations over individuals. Biased.

Hey, I am going to call the Though Police...Oh, wait...I had a thought...jail time. Oh, no.....

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Armelius wrote:I don't understand why they arrested her. All the 911 operator had to do is give her the number of the police if she wanted to file a complaint.

I think the 911 operator is the pin head. The police too.

The police are clearly protecting corporations over individuals. Biased.

Hey, I am going to call the Though Police...Oh, wait...I had a thought...jail time. Oh, no.....
So O'Reilly is ok?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

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Armelius wrote:I don't understand why they arrested her. All the 911 operator had to do is give her the number of the police if she wanted to file a complaint.

I think the 911 operator is the pin head. The police too.

The police are clearly protecting corporations over individuals. Biased.

Hey, I am going to call the Though Police...Oh, wait...I had a thought...jail time. Oh, no.....
You know, its posts like these which make me not take your posts seriously at all. You make all these bizarro posts and expect people to take you for real. We don't.

I can respect people with differing viewpoints than mine if they are worded in thoughtful and introspective posts but your posts are just so hard to take seriously. You just sound like you want to hear yourself speak rather than argue intelligently.

I end up just loling at your posts and just quickly scanning them since they can't be taken seriously.

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Armelius wrote:I don't understand why they arrested her. All the 911 operator had to do is give her the number of the police if she wanted to file a complaint.

I think the 911 operator is the pin head. The police too.

The police are clearly protecting corporations over individuals. Biased.

Hey, I am going to call the Though Police...Oh, wait...I had a thought...jail time. Oh, no.....
The 911 operator's job isn't to act as a directory assistance service or take routine complaints. ITS AN EMERGENCY LINE. Any abuse of that line has to be reported.

Its also not a police matter. This is something you take up with a store manager.

Or, were you just being flip?

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Jesda wrote:
The 911 operator's job isn't to act as a directory assistance service or take routine complaints. ITS AN EMERGENCY LINE. Any abuse of that line has to be reported.

Its also not a police matter. This is something you take up with a store manager.

Or, were you just being flip?
I disagree! The 911 operator should have given the caller the police non emergency number.If the caller asked for the McDonalds headquarters telephone number, then I would agree with you.Taking a customers money for an item not available & refusing a refund request is a police matter. It is called scamming a customer.The customer did ask for a manager and was told the employee refusing the refund was the manager. After the story made the news media the customer was given a refund as well as an offer of a free meal. I'm sure the charge will be thrown out of court.In NYC the non emergency number 311 is well publicised. In smaller communities it is usually a regular 7 digit telephone number that is not widely publicised.

In my opinion, it should be on billboards when entering every community.

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As far as I can remember, the telephone number for operator assistance has always been '0.' Not sure why it is a hard concept to understand that if you have a McNugget issue, you don't call 911. You either resolve the issue with the management or you call McDonalds Corporate and lodge a complaint. For goodness sake a 20 piece McNugget is only like $5+. My threashold for calling the police is at least $6.50 or the life of my family being threatened.

Maybe next time I go to McDonalds (because my daughter loves the stupid slide) and the Mexican girl behind the counter gives/charges me two complete sets of 10 piece McNugget Meals, when I ask for a 20 piece meal I should call 9-11. If we can get everyone to overload the 9-11 emergency system with non emergency issues and asking for non emergency number we can bring the system to its knees. Yes I am being facetious

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telcoman wrote:
In my opinion, it should be on billboards when entering every community.

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Great, another waste of local funding so stupid people can see the number to call and not bother using it.

You simply don't get the big picture and put the blame on society to make peoples lives easier instead of expecting people to act in a sensible manner.

The chic should be run out of the country in order to keep her genes out of our gene pool. The shallow side is WAY too big.

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Cold_Zero wrote:My threashold for calling the police is at least $6.50 or the life of my family being threatened.
Paypal me $6.49 or the bunny gets it.



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ishkabibble wrote:
Paypal me $6.49 or the bunny gets it.



I'll be back tomorrow.
Leave the bunny. Take the cannoli

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telcoman wrote:The 911 operator should have given the caller the police non emergency number.
The 911 operator is not a replacement for 411. This is one of the prime problems with false calls to 911, by the way.

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Here is an example of why loading up the 911 system with false calls is unacceptable:

http://www.jsonline.com/news/29432374.html

People die in certain situations.

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And, by the way, this woman is not the only idiot who does not understand the purpose of 911 (she made THREE calls to them by the way ... tying up emergency time) ... There are plenty of others with similar brain defects: http://www.breitbart.com/artic...cle=1.

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ishkabibble wrote:Don't forget this guy!

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/1008/563913.html
Good find!

I forgot about that.

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szhosain wrote:Here is an example of why loading up the 911 system with false calls is unacceptable:

http://www.jsonline.com/news/29432374.html

People die in certain situations.

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I get your point, but can you recognize that it's not a direct result of false calls? But rather a direct result of the operator not following SOP.

The operator that failed the chance at saving Brittany Zimmermann's life should be fired.

Unfortunately I've had my own accidental dial. When I locked the blackberry I had, you could press almost any button to make the unlock menu come up. On that unlock menu was three options: Unlock, Emergency Phone Call, and Cancel. Guess which selection the ball rolled onto in my pocket.

When I started hearing the call in my pocket I immediately grabbed my phone and saw 911 on the screen. I thought, "oh s***", and hung up not realizing they would call back.

Needless to say my honest excuse didn't even come close to calming the, "omg ur a f***ing idiot" feeling I had.

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datsun2401972 wrote:I get your point, but can you recognize that it's not a direct result of false calls? But rather a direct result of the operator not following SOP.

The operator that failed the chance at saving Brittany Zimmermann's life should be fired.
(As an aside: there are tons of false call situations that occur. Do a google search and you will see many of them: http://www.google.com/search?h...=f&oq=)

It is a very tough job. You have to remember that they have choices to make in the kind of scenario described in the one I linked earlier. "Should I go back to the call who hung up? Or should I take the next one that is waiting? Which is the likely emergency?"

And, as a result of clogging up a resource, that is designed and necessary for true emergencies only, by people making false calls, the result is that true emergencies might slip by.

BTW, ever had a busy signal on a 911 call? I have once, when reporting an accident I witnessed. I wonder if that was because the operators were busy on non-emergency calls.
datsun2401972 wrote:Unfortunately I've had my own accidental dial. When I locked the blackberry I had, you could press almost any button to make the unlock menu come up. On that unlock menu was three options: Unlock, Emergency Phone Call, and Cancel. Guess which selection the ball rolled onto in my pocket.

When I started hearing the call in my pocket I immediately grabbed my phone and saw 911 on the screen. I thought, "oh s***", and hung up not realizing they would call back.

Needless to say my honest excuse didn't even come close to calming the, "omg ur a f***ing idiot" feeling I had.
Yours is a natural mistake and you did not tie up the operator for many minutes on a non-issue. So, not a willful false call problem in my book!

But, a person who calls 911 three times because of a problem with a McDonalds counter person is simply not an acceptable use of the system! She is an idiot who deserves to have the charges (the ones that cover false dialing of the 911 system).

I have - once - done the mental slip of dialing 911 when I wanted to dial 411. I thought I hung back before the phone even rang on the other end, but they caught it and called back. I have been extra careful ever since.

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Police say 'bored' woman made false 911 calls

SLIDELL, La. (AP) — Police said a woman made two false calls to 911 from an out-of-service cell phone — and told investigators she did it because she was bored. They booked a 20-year-old woman on Monday with false report of a fire and false report of a crime. They also booked her on two outstanding warrants for violating probation.

Police Chief Freddy Drennan said the two calls gave different addresses in the same area. Police answered a burglary call and police and firefighters answered the fire call.

Officers questioned a woman in a nearby yard. Police said she denied making the calls at first, then admitted making them out of boredom.

Police said dispatchers who called back got an out-of-service message. Out-of-service cell phones can make emergency calls as a safety feature, but cannot take calls.


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