9/11 Pentagon Attack - Conspiracy?

[VashFC]

I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but a friend of mine sent me this link. After I watched this.... I was stunned. It seems like some serious evidence pointing at a conspiracy. It's DAMN interesting. I really think Americans should watch this and come to their own conclusions.

It's 3.3Mb Flash Video.... it's worth the wait.

http://www.freedomunderground....#Main

- Chris

[gounc14]

Its been de-railed so many times its not even funny, it has no shred of truth to it.

[VashFC]

What has been derailed exactly?

- Chris

[The Mic]

REPPOSSSSSTTTT

[Rex]

Isn't this kind of the [ur=http://www.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=80933]same thing?[/url]

[gabossie]

Repost Police!

This is like the third time this has been posted in the last couple months!

[gounc14]

http://urbanlegends.about.com/...7.htm

Somewhat better?

[nuQ]

very simply,,,and i wish a military expert would chime in,,,,,,,there is NO WAY IN HELL, a commuter plane off course for 40 min. could EVER be headed toward a no fly zone, OUR CAPITAL FOR GOD SAKES, with NO RESPONSE from the air traffic controllers, NORAD, our a scrammbled squadren to intersept this "enemy". not to mention the surface to air missles that guard the pentagon (computer controlled!!! someone had to shut down that defense system!!). Would never happen, there is no way all these chain of commands could fall asleep, especially after knowing the trade centers had been attacked!!! there is NO proof that a 757 hit the pentagon. the pentagon has the most advanced surveilance equiptment in the world,,,,show proof of a plane flying into one of this countries most protected buildings!!!! i could drive my Q into a wall-mart with more proof than they've shown!!!!!

[gounc14]

There's no evicence that a 757 DIDN'T hit the Pentagon, in fact if you look around at ALL, its quite obvious one did. Add the fact that 40 minutes before the plane hit it would have been at the very least a few hundred miles away. A flight from Virginia Beach to DC takes about 40-45 minutes once the plane's in the air, its not really very unbelievable at all. Ummms and DC isn't a no fly zone, the Pentagon is pretty close to a huge international airport. I have friends working near the Pentagon for the DoD as well as a few who have worked in the actual building in the past. Rest assured, it did happen.

[nuQ]

C'MON,,,,show ONE pic of ANY plane hitting the pentagon!!!!!!! the capital building, pentagon is not a no fly zone?????? check your facts. ANY unidentified plane flying into washington dc will not raise an eyebrow from our military?????? ARE YOU NUTS!!??????? THE PENTAGON AND THE WHITE HOUSE ARE NO FLY ZONES!!!!! ask your friends why the squadrons from andrews instead of langley were notified (langley is 130 miles away, andrews 10 which is in charge of defending washington dc). I REPEAT,,,,THERE IS NO WAY A COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT, WITH NO TRANSPONDER, CAN HURL TOWARD A NO FLY ZONE FOR 40 MIN., OUR CAPITAL, WITH NO MILITARY RESPONSE!!!!!! HEADS SHOULD HAVE ROLLED!!!! WHY NO SURFACE TO AIR MISSLES, WHICH THE PENTAGON HAS AT THE READY!!! WHO SWITCHED THESE OFF?????MAKES NO SENSE!!! THIS IS THE MOST POWERFUL MILITARY BUILDING IN THE WORLD!!! ASK ANY,,,,ANY!! AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER HOW THIS COULD HAPPEN??? IT WOULDN'T! btw----andrews afb website went down immediatly after 9/ll and didn't appear again till nov. when it came back online it no longer had a link to the air force web page describing the capabilities and mission of 113th fighter wing of the air national guard at andrews---the capability of reacting immediatly to any threat by air to washington.

[nuQ]

like i've said before,,,,,more of a military reaction from the golfer payne stewarts lear jet decompressed, than a "hijacked" commercial 757 heading toward our most important military headquarters. two F16's scrammbled for the lear jet,,,, ZERO for flight 77!!!????? Either our govt. allowed this to happen or they are more incompetent than a third world countries defense system!!!! take your pick. just pointing out facts.

[KDashy]

Sounds like you sure hate living in this country.

[Jesda]

How many freaking times do I have to debunk this story?

CNN has video footage and a news story.About.com has eyewitness accounts.Snopes.com has photos and an explanation.

I'm now too lazy to Google it and search for the other NICO threads. Your misinformation is now your problem. God damn the Internet for taking advantage of fools.

-Jesda

[StrangeLove]

I wish my lawn was as indestructable as the pentagon lawn! they say the 757 hit the ground then the building... yet the lawn is untouched... its a miracle!

Jesda, explain everything on this site, and I'll be convinced:

http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

my favorite picture



explain how a 757 did that

[Jesda]

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/U...tures/ ... d.....html

[Altiman94]

conspiracy theorists are a joke. There is no way somethign that wide-scaled coul dhave been orcastraighted. Think about it.

[jdmfreak]

GAH! More conspiracy theories?

[BuudWeizErr]

I hate Bush as much as the next guy and even I don't believe this conspiracy BS. Now that is saying something.

Ooooh oooh, but it's on the internet, it must be true!-STFU.

[240marcuSX]

i brought the same thing up to my mom the other day who works in some building across the way from the pentagon, she got all pissed when i questioned it, because she actually saw it happen.

she also said that they could even see the expressions on the faces of the people on the plane, which i believe to be complete bs.

[Nathan]

she also said that they could even see the expressions on the faces of the people on the plane, which i believe to be complete bs.

Ya know, logic would say that thats virtually impossible...the plane is travelling very quickly and chances are decent they weren't THAT close. However, its always interesting to me how the brain reacts to extreme stress (I think watching an emminent plane crash would put you into a "stress" mode of thinking). When I've been in moments where something terrible was happening it typically felt as if time was slowing down, and everything became much more vivid and clear. Perhaps something similar happened with your mom and the people she worked with? Or...the "expressions" were just constructs of their brain...completely added in for personal effect.

[gounc14]

i brought the same thing up to my mom the other day who works in some building across the way from the pentagon, she got all pissed when i questioned it, because she actually saw it happen.

she also said that they could even see the expressions on the faces of the people on the plane, which i believe to be complete bs.

There ya go, nuQ, its obvious you're just wildly hypothesizing about things that someone made up on....THE INTARWEB, but I'm not gonna dignify your questions with further answers.

PS- Sorry if I sound overly rude or inflammatory, I HATE people trying to say that this attack never happened, as good Americans lost their lives to it. Oh and btw, guess who started this conspiracy theory? The original flash video, if I remember correctly, was developed by some dudes in FRANCE.
Modified by gounc14 at 8:08 PM 10/27/2004

[nuQ]

NOTHING in these posts have ONE shread of evidence of a 757 hitting the pentagon. i agree something hit the pentagon, but show me one picture of a 757 (rubble of the plane, the torched earth, the busted up parking lot, etc.). jesda, i luv ya, but all your debunking posts just put more doubts with anyone with half a brain. one of your posts say how a plane disintegrated into dust upon hitting a concrete wall, yet the nose of the 757 put a 16 foot hole into the THIRD reienforced wall of the pentagon????? anyone who is familiar with these planes will say this is IMPOSSIBLE! THE NOSE OF A 757 IS FRAGILE AT BEST. hitler once said, "the bigger the lie, the more believed by the masses". why did the FBI confiscate all the surveliance cameras from any surrounding private businesses?????? the pentagon itself has state of the art cameras all around the building,,,,WHY WON'T THEY RELEASE THE FOOTAGE OF A 757 HITTING THE BUILDING,,,,WOULD END ALL OF THE SPECULATION!!!! (not a fireball,,,,an actual plane hitting the building). i'm not anti-american at all, in fact love my country. just incredibly suspicious of a govt. that kicked and screamed to even have an investigation as to why 9/11 could have happened (took george w. a year and half to agree to the investigation), then only spend 15 million on the probe (to find out if monica lewinsky gobbed clinton's carrot,,,,,,,,77 MILLION!!!!). hope everyone is scratching their heads right now!!! to anyone that thinks this is crazy, answer these questions, and i will shut up....... 1. how can a commercial flight go off course and no response from the FAA???? 2. why no response from NORAD? 3. how can a commercial flight, with no contact with the pilots, fly for 40 min. toward washington dc????? 4. the pentagon IS a no fly zone to unidentified aircraft!!!!! 5. why were no F-16's scrammbled to identify the unknown aircraft???? 6. IF we assume they were scrammbled too late,,,,,WHO turned off the pentagon's surface to air missle defense system as the last line of defense to protect the building (this is computer controlled, so a human had to disengage the protection system)???????? 7. how can all of these rules of procedure cease to function during this flight, yet we all don't want to question the "official" story????? all of these things would never fail all at the same time. our military is constantly drilled with these procedures,,,,not to mention the FAA, air traffic controllers, airlines, and NORAD. look at their literature! i really wish one of our military members would explain how all this could have happened. remember,,,not one member in these chain of commands lost their jobs for their GROSS incompetance! they're still guarding all of us!!!!!! scary, huh????? conspiracy,,,,,,or common sense???? just pointing out the facts,,,hard to stomach for some who don't like to think they could be lied to so easily. ps---just looking for facts as to why my thinking is wrong

[StrangeLove]

THANK YOU NUQ!!!!

Jesda, explain how the 757 hit the lawn and left it undamaged, and why the lawn was ordered covered over by gravel and sand.

[[Zero-S]]

I would so love to have seen what really happened. Ahh to have a time machine...

[JustinStrife]

Nuq sounds alot like a person who hates the government. Maybe more importantly George W. Bush...

Hysterical behavior tends to wipe out logical thinking. Is it just me, or is there a widespread hatred of Bush that is just completely illogical?

Unless you're the terrorists of course. Then I could see why you hate him.

[MaineExport]

It's the new cool thing to hate bush. I'd say a good chunk of the members here jumped on the board to be part of the "drifting" scene bandwagon.

"Yo dawg, Ima get one-a them 240's and throw and SR in that biotch!"

Would you expect their ill-informed political opinions to come from any different social dysfunction than their unoriginal car trends?

[Jesda]

Go to the CNN link and click on the god damn video.

TEH LOONAR LANDING WUZ FAKED OMGZ!!!!!!

[BuudWeizErr]

TEH LOONAR LANDING WUZ FAKED OMGZ!!!!!!

LIEK OMEG WE MUST BEAT TEH RUSSIOANS!

[jdmfreak]

LOL! I believe the fat drifter is drunk off his ***. He cant spell for ****.

[BuudWeizErr]

LOL! I believe the fat drifter is drunk off his ***. He cant spell for ****.

YOU dont' seay whatever led you to ath conclueasion?