6.5 speaker in a 240sx door?

[SyndromeVII]

Anyone tryed to fit one of these in? just looking for some info.

[nismo521]

A 6.5 fits in the S14 door. If you're talking about an S13, you can make it fit, but you will have to make a mounting plate. I've got pics from when I made mine if you want to see them.

[SyndromeVII]

Yeah its a s13, but im still interested in see your pics if you dont mind

[nismo521]

OK

This is the stock speaker assembly

Trace the outline of it onto a sheet of paper

Trace the outline of the sheet of paper onto the material you are going to mount the speaker to and cut it out. I used 3/16" Lucite b/c that's what I had laying around.

Hold the mounting panel up to the hole in the door skin and figure out where to cut the hole for the speaker using the mounting template that came with the speakers. Here is mine after I've already cut the hole.

Drill the screw holes and mount the speakers in the mounting panel, using the clips that came w/ the speakers to give the screws something to bite into.

Install the whole assembly into the car.

Enjoy. Mine were component speakers so there were a few other steps to install the crossovers and tweeters, but the steps for making the mounting plate will be the same for a pair of co-axials.

[elbles]

There is another option available anymore, at http://www.mjmautoinnovations.com/sak240sxt65.htm . . . you can order directly from the guy at that site, or on eBay. I ordered a set off of eBay last Friday night, but haven't received them yet, and there have been some complaints about the guy and his shipping time, but it could be a great option if he comes through anytime soon. Just something else to look into.

[nismo521]

^^^ Or you could just buy those

[SyndromeVII]

i think ill go DIY route

[nismo521]

Cool, good luck. Feel free to IM me if you need any help, I'm TheLines02 on AIM.

[elbles]

I figure I'll just chime in once more, saying if I had some tools (like power tools, heh), I'd go the DIY route as well. Being at college, with my car 10-15 minutes away from an electrical outlet at all times, it's rough. :-)

[hysteria]

cutting perfect holes is a *****. i'm buying those things... it's worth 10 dollars to get it right the first time. i'm aware you can draw a circle pretty easy with a pencil some string and a point in the center... but the cutting with a saw is hard to keep steady.what material are those plates made out of anyway? (the ones for sale i mean)not that any of you guys didn't get it right the first time, but i'd be pulling my hair out. of course i still have to make them for the rear, but that's a little bit easier... bondo and fiberglass... mmm mmm i hate that smell. man it better turn out good when i get done.

[nismo521]

To be honest, I didn't worry about cutting a perfect circle. My jigsaw can scroll, meaning the blade can be turned w/o turning the saw itself, that helps out a lot in cutting circles. I pretty much got the circle roughed in, then used my Dremel w/ a grinding cylinder to get it perfect. The pre-fab ones on that site are probably made out of ABS plastic, that's what most companies make adapters out of.

[elbles]

Those plates that I linked to are made out of PVC, which is comparable to ABS, or so I'd hope. I'll post up with what I think of them, whenever I might get them (I'm doing a 600 mile trip home on Friday, and if I have to hear those 4x6" speakers again, I just might kill myself. :-))

[hysteria]

well they will work perfect for me. if there are any doubts on my part about rigidity or anything like that i will just reinforce them with fiberglass.

[nismo521]

Well, actually, ABS or PVC isn't really gonna have any rigidity problems. I know they're both a heck of a lot stronger than the Lucite I'm using for mine.

[elbles]

I just got the adapter plates in the mail today, and they are plenty rugged. The hole for the speaker/midrange is 5.5" in diameter, and my speakers require a hole of 5.75", so I have to use some very coarse grit sandpaper to enlarge the hole a little bit (well, 1/4", heh), and I will probably have to drill new holes for the speakers as well, but all in all, not bad. Just so you guys know.

[hysteria]

i wonder if they would make a custom sized hole... like you supply the diameter or radius. i have a drill... i can do the speaker mount holes, but not the midrange seat hole. that one is a ***** cause the only tool i have to work with is a jig saw... which is not easy to cut nice holes with, even with them drawn out already.

[nismo521]

i wonder if they would make a custom sized hole... like you supply the diameter or radius. i have a drill... i can do the speaker mount holes, but not the midrange seat hole. that one is a ***** cause the only tool i have to work with is a jig saw... which is not easy to cut nice holes with, even with them drawn out already.

See if you can find a holesaw for your drill in the diameter that you need. That's what I used to cut the holes in my door panels for the tweeters.

[hysteria]

where do you get those? 6.5 inch (or i guess more like closer to between 5.5-6 inch really because the cutout doesn't have to be as big as the driver) seems pretty big for a drill bit, so i assumed i wouldn't be able to find it. does home depot sell em? thanks for the heads up. i really just assumed that it would cost a lot for one and they would be hard to find.

i looked here:http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi...88693

the 5" one is almost $40 and the 6" one is more than $40. and those are only in whole numbers... like i need one that is like 5.75", so i don't know where to go for that. i'll google it, but $40 seems a little steep... but then again i would have to be able to do stereo installs for as long as i need.

[nismo521]

Oh, I didn't realize you were talking about the hole for the 6.5 inch driver. You can cut it out w/ a jigsaw, it doesn't have to be a perfect circle. Just get it as close as you can and the use a dremel to get it round. If you dont have a dremel, just get some 60 grit and a sanding block.

[Silvia2b]

For hole saw that big you usually have to buy a set, We bought ours from Snap-on and then if we needed replacements when they got dull we could order the replacement part only. Mac tools also has these. I usually use a router with and adjustable plate and pivot called a perfect circle to cut round hole of various dimensions. This becomes very important when cutting holes in a material that is thicker like 1”MDF and trying to mount subs with a good tight seal. But works for smaller drivers too.

[skydragoness]

I just got the adapter plates in the mail today, and they are plenty rugged. The hole for the speaker/midrange is 5.5" in diameter, and my speakers require a hole of 5.75", so I have to use some very coarse grit sandpaper to enlarge the hole a little bit (well, 1/4", heh), and I will probably have to drill new holes for the speakers as well, but all in all, not bad. Just so you guys know.

Are you referring to the brackets you got off of the MVM ebay seller? I'm in DE so i figure if i order them they'd better show up fast. I don't mind having to sand anything down or re-do the holes. I just don't have a jigsaw at my house to cut circles so it seems easier to just order the stuff. Just as long as they are in 'the ball park'

What do you guys do for rear 6.5's for the S13 coupes? Since new aftermarket speakers don't line up correctly.

[nismo521]

I don't use rear speakers, unless you count a sub as a speaker. I like all of my sound to come from up front. If you go to a concert, are you gonna sit w/ some of the performers behind you and some in front? Nope, you want all of them to be in front of you. With a sub, it's not as big of a deal, if you run it at a low enough frequency range, your ears won't localize the sound and it will blend in w/ the music from the speakers in front.

[Rex]

Are you referring to the brackets you got off of the MVM ebay seller? I'm in DE so i figure if i order them they'd better show up fast. I don't mind having to sand anything down or re-do the holes. I just don't have a jigsaw at my house to cut circles so it seems easier to just order the stuff. Just as long as they are in 'the ball park'

What do you guys do for rear 6.5's for the S13 coupes? Since new aftermarket speakers don't line up correctly.

Do you know anyone (or their brother) taking "shop" in school? They should be able to make some pretty cheap.

And I agree with nismo521, full rnage front, "rear fill/low end" from the back.

[elbles]

Yeah, I was referring to those adapters. I ended up just "bottom mounting" the CDT's on them, as things lined up that way, but the midrange just ended up mounted further into the door, which means I can't put the window down all the way anymore, but the difference in sound quality more than makes up for it. They're surprisingly rugged, but given the increase in sound output, particularly in the lower range of the audible spectrum, I'm getting quite a bit of vibration/rattles in the door panels now when I really turn it up. So Dynamat, it is. :-)

Out of curiousity, what kinds of speakers are you going to put in it? I got the CDT's without even hearing them (something I am VERY hesitant to do with speakers), but I figured anything would be a huge improvement over the 4x6 "speakers", and I had heard rave reviews about them. For the money, I can almost guarantee they won't disappoint (unless, of course, you think $30,000 amps are the bottom of the line :-)).

Also, right now, I am feeding the CDT's 40 watts a channel, and the same to the backs (the Boston plates). It gets loud enough, and I have the fader adjusted almost all the way to the front (13 F where the maximum is 15 F), though I can bridge my amplifier to 100 watts per channel into 2 channels, to see how that sounds. :-) Rear fill is pretty useless when you have decent speakers up front. Just my opinion . . .

[stocker240]

i got the lexan today its 1/4" thick , i made my cardboard templates , now im shopping for some speakers i think ill get 6.5 coax's but i am wondering what is the mounting depth of front door speakers in a 91 240 hatch

[danger69]

Why trace your own template. I made one for you already.

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[lbrowne]

Why trace your own template. I made one for you already.

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What depth do your Kenwoods have? This is what I'm trying to figure out so I don;t buy a speaker that goes too deep - thus hitting the window etc...

[danger69]

The kenwood speakers I have is the KFC-1677 *bought them cheap from my friend*. They are 2" in depth. Now when you mount it with the adaptor plate it moves it out more so you get some more room.

[LDN D.K.]

how did u bypass the factory amps, wat wires u connect to wat?. let me knw, thks Sunjay

[nismo521]

how did u bypass the factory amps, wat wires u connect to wat?. let me knw, thks Sunjay

On the left (driver's) side, you want the blue wire w/ the white stripe and the blue wire w/ the yellow stripe coming out of the door jamb. On the other side of the car, you want the brown wire and the brown wire w/ the white stripe. I can't for the life of me remember which is positive and which is negative. Maybe someone else can chime in on that or you might be able to figure it out from looking at the back of the amp.