56,000 miles and I need a new transmission

[pingflood]

I posted earlier about some weird whining noise from the front end of the car, thinking maybe the CVT was acting up. Well, sure enough, the dealer calls me today telling me I am getting a new CVT installed tomorrow.

56k miles, mostly highway, no abuse. Go figure! (2007 Versa SL)

edit: the tally so far:Rattle in dash -- loose airbagA/C rattle -- never resolvedStarting problems -- fuel pressure regulatorDoor handle fell off -- no idea why, fixed it myselfMystery interior rattles -- given up on getting them fixedRecent engine noises -- went from oil level full to almost no oil in a few thousand milesWeird whining from front end -- CVT transmission dying

So much for buying a Nissan hoping it'd be like a Toyota or Honda.

[CoupeVQ35CVT]

I posted earlier about some weird whining noise from the front end of the car, thinking maybe the CVT was acting up. Well, sure enough, the dealer calls me today telling me I am getting a new CVT installed tomorrow.

56k miles, mostly highway, no abuse. Go figure! (2007 Versa SL)

edit: the tally so far:Rattle in dash -- loose airbagA/C rattle -- never resolvedStarting problems -- fuel pressure regulatorDoor handle fell off -- no idea why, fixed it myselfMystery interior rattles -- given up on getting them fixedRecent engine noises -- went from oil level full to almost no oil in a few thousand milesWeird whining from front end -- CVT transmission dying

So much for buying a Nissan hoping it'd be like a Toyota or Honda.

I feel your pain. I've been a little more lucky with my purchases, with the usual smaller "stupid" things like faulty window regulators/motors, engine issues/quality. But I too am not impressed with Nissan's apparent quality. There are too many "little things" that I have come across that on their own do not seem like much, but when you look at the big picture, there just seems to be something wrong when the same issues are not being updated/fixed in many instances.

Power window regulator - I've had 3 different models/aged cars that had these go out at least once or twice, at varying intervals. My latest incident is my '06 Sentra. Sure it's 3 years old, but the window itself was HARDLY ever used, and one day "plop" it started to drop lower and lower. Unfortunately for me I was 2 months (and over 30k miles over) too late to get this taken care of under warranty. Now you'd think after having this issue across the board on various models they'd do a fix... Nope.

Blown head gasket - Issues on the QG18 1.8L engine - '00-06 Sentras have had this issue. Some owners were lucky to get this taken care of under warranty period, while others had this happen REPEATEDLY (and I'm not talking about driving around 6000 rpms either).

Faulty fuel pumps on some models - car won't start until you crank it a good 3-4 seconds. Happens with my Sentra all the time after warm up.

Squealing brakes - my '09 Altima with less than 12k miles started doing this..... HIGHWAY miles... It's ridiculous.

[Codelicious]

I posted earlier about some weird whining noise from the front end of the car, thinking maybe the CVT was acting up. Well, sure enough, the dealer calls me today telling me I am getting a new CVT installed tomorrow.

56k miles, mostly highway, no abuse. Go figure! (2007 Versa SL)

edit: the tally so far:Rattle in dash -- loose airbagA/C rattle -- never resolvedStarting problems -- fuel pressure regulatorDoor handle fell off -- no idea why, fixed it myselfMystery interior rattles -- given up on getting them fixedRecent engine noises -- went from oil level full to almost no oil in a few thousand milesWeird whining from front end -- CVT transmission dying

So much for buying a Nissan hoping it'd be like a Toyota or Honda.

Good thing they gave everyone a 10 year warranty on the CVT! They are fixing it for free correct?

[pingflood]

Yeah, it was actually under the 60k (barely) powertrain warranty even before the extension. Still, the dealer is taking a week for ordering in a replacement and putting it in; luckily I have my '94 Roadmonster (which, unlike most GM products, is absolutely rock solid reliable) to take me on my weekly 600 mile "commute" to work...

[DriftingisLame]

So much for buying a Nissan hoping it'd be like a Toyota or Honda.

You bought the BOTTOM of the line nissan, dont expect perfection! You can get these cars for under $10,000! Dont you think it would be somewhat inexpensively produced??

Starting problems -- fuel pressure regulator - Thats a TSB, they fixed it for you for free didnt they?

Mystery interior rattles -- given up on getting them fixed - Do you know how hard it is as a technician making any money on interior rattles? You should spend some time as a flat rate technician and then ease up on your expectations from a middle of the line auto maker and a bottom of their lineup vehicle.

Recent engine noises -- went from oil level full to almost no oil in a few thousand miles

You have a powertrain warranty dont you? The earliest of models always have problems like this, this is why there's warranties, and superceded parts that commonly fail.

Weird whining from front end -- CVT transmission dying - This is under warranty isnt it? Dont count on it failing again from the same abuse...

This is just frustrating to hear from a technicians point of view. You bought the first model year of a new car and expect it to be trouble free... And holy crap are you not happy that it takes a week to ship a 250 lb trans and install it? Its a free trans thats going to be fresh well outside its warranty, and there's a technician with bills to pay thats installing it in 6 hours and being paid 3.5!

Blown head gasket - Issues on the QG18 1.8L engine - '00-06 Sentras have had this issue. Some owners were lucky to get this taken care of under warranty period, while others had this happen REPEATEDLY (and I'm not talking about driving around 6000 rpms either).

Faulty fuel pumps on some models - car won't start until you crank it a good 3-4 seconds. Happens with my Sentra all the time after warm up.

Squealing brakes - my '09 Altima with less than 12k miles started doing this..... HIGHWAY miles... It's ridiculous.

Did you ever think at some point maybe that nissan had more performance in mind to one up their competitors? I believe it was car and driver testing the altima sedan and all in its class, and the altima was found to be faster accelerating, handling, and braking in all tests.

Perhaps they went too aggressive on their pad compound, perhaps there is a BULLETIN for this and you will have the brakes replaced for free at a dealership, would you rather do that or complain on an online forum and never have the issue resolved? We have a pretty small dealership and have all of these bulletin kits in stock, and techs get paid somewhat decently to install them, it should be very trouble free.

I really doubt nissan spent all their money developing their bottom of the line engine to put in their bottom of the line econo-crapbox. The QG18 is not a very good engine, we've had countless headgaskets and timing chain issues..

Have more faith in nissan, you guys nit pick tons of things on low end nissans and completely discredit the company as a whole.

I dont want to stirr up any crap, but please keep in contact with your dealer and you'll be surprised what they can take care of for you.... This is why the warranty is in place.

I have been a technician for some time now and I have the utmost faith in this manufacturer.

[iluvmyVersa08]

You bought the BOTTOM of the line nissan, dont expect perfection! You can get these cars for under $10,000! Dont you think it would be somewhat inexpensively produced??

Yes the BASE version can be purchased for around $10,000 in the US. However, his car is not the base of the line. He bought the CVT transmission in the SL model.

Things are bound to happen in any car. Look at all the problems Toyota and Honda are having. No company is perfect. I'm happy with my car so far, no major issues to deal with yet.

[Rand0m0sityxX]

I posted earlier about some weird whining noise from the front end of the car, thinking maybe the CVT was acting up. Well, sure enough, the dealer calls me today telling me I am getting a new CVT installed tomorrow.

56k miles, mostly highway, no abuse. Go figure! (2007 Versa SL)

edit: the tally so far:Rattle in dash -- loose airbagA/C rattle -- never resolvedStarting problems -- fuel pressure regulatorDoor handle fell off -- no idea why, fixed it myselfMystery interior rattles -- given up on getting them fixedRecent engine noises -- went from oil level full to almost no oil in a few thousand milesWeird whining from front end -- CVT transmission dying

So much for buying a Nissan hoping it'd be like a Toyota or Honda.

You also have to remember, your's is an '07. Its the beginning of the car, they can't perfect the car from the very first year. So your bound to have problems. Our '08 isn't bad, all its had so far was a "common" steering wheel rack problem.

And comparing to Toyota.. Have you missed they're recalls lately? I do believe Nissan is better than Toyota. And If Honda's so great, well my '98 CRV won't have a dying transmission right now at 166k.

[srellim234]

Whether the technician makes any money for the repair or not is totally irrelevant. That has no place whatsoever in the relationship between the car company, dealer and the customer. If you don't want to put in the effort or can't get the paycheck you expect to do it properly, find another job.

Shipping the item is not an issue. I have been waiting over a month now for the rubber weather strip to show up to repair my driver's side door leak under warranty. The car is assembled in Mexico. You can't tell me they couldn't find a rubber strip somewhere in a southern Califonia body shop or send it here from Mexico in less than a month. Considering that they also delayed last year when they replaced the shorted part twice, apparenty hoping that the rainy season was over and I would put over 12 months or 12,000 miles on the car before it rained again. A year later, the part shorts out again and we go through the dance again. And this is a dealer with one of the best reputations in this area.

In the meantime the dealer has contacted me four times wanting me to bring in the car for service that isn't quite due yet. They want the sales and money but aren't putting the same effort into warranty work.

If Nissan is not paying the dealer enough for the work then that is between the dealer and Nissan and the consumer should never be put in the middle of that battle.

[superskunk]

The QG18 is not a very good engine, we've had countless headgaskets and timing chain issues..

umm we have the MR18 not the QG18....

[robaustin]

>>>>You also have to remember, your's is an '07. Its the beginning of the car, they can't perfect the car from the very first year. <<<<

The car has been sold as the Tiida in Japan since 2004, so perfecting it shouldn't have been an issue.

Just sayin'....

--*Rob

[Shad0wXCalibur]

That makes me worry a little about my CVT. Then again, the extension to 120k mile warranty for it eases me a little. It seems to be working fine so far. Things go wrong with the bottom line cars. I don't think the quality control on the Versa is as high as Nissan's other cars. For the price you pay for the Versa, you can't expect perfection. The car rides stiff and starts rattling the interior a bit on rough roads and some will have problems. Here's hoping though that I don't have any more problems for a while besides the popping steering wheel I had to get fixed. It's not a bad car. Lot of standard features that fits my budget for now. I will be shooting for something a little more high end when my Versa gives up but I'll be driving it til it rusts in half.

[TryingDrive]

should have expected it... its a fairly new thing for Nissan.

and any high velocity things (such as a trans) that just use two bands is just weird to me.

when I bought mine i had to special order 6speed. lol. no local dealers had one. simple is better!

[Bubs daddy]

I wouldn't consider it fairly new. Nissan has been using CVT's since the late 90's.

[pingflood]

You bought the BOTTOM of the line nissan, dont expect perfection! You can get these cars for under $10,000! Dont you think it would be somewhat inexpensively produced??

I
was looking for basic, reliable, troublefree transportation. I did not buy this car (which was closer to 15k than 10k) because I wanted to save a few grand and deal with a host of stupid issues.

Starting problems -- fuel pressure regulator - Thats a TSB, they fixed it for you for free didnt they?

After the THIRD time I brought it in.

»Mystery interior rattles -- given up on getting them fixed - Do you know how hard it is as a technician making any money on interior rattles? You should spend some time as a flat rate technician and then ease up on your expectations from a middle of the line auto maker and a bottom of their lineup vehicle.

I really don't give a rat's behind how much money a tech makes fixing issues on my vehicle; I expect a still rather new car NOT to have these issues. My wife's '02 Jetta is far more solid, as is my 17 year old Roadmaster. I've driven cheap Hondas FAR older and they have nowhere NEAR the amount of interior noises. It's unacceptable, "cheap" car or not.

Recent engine noises -- went from oil level full to almost no oil in a few thousand miles. You have a powertrain warranty dont you? The earliest of models always have problems like this, this is why there's warranties, and superceded parts that commonly fail.

I just dropped the car off today AGAIN because of this. Last time they said it was "really low on oil" and that I had probably "neglected" to maintain it properly. They they told me I "had" to change it every 3750 miles even though the Nissan service manual says otherwise and I pointed out I do all highway driving. They "fixed" it by adding oil, to no avail. Took it back in, they told me they wouldn't even look at it without me proving that I had maintained it properly. Spent an hour on the phone having people fax records over, and showed them that over the past year I've done changes WELL within the 7500 mile recommended interval for my type of driving.

Now they are yanking the engine to find out what the hell is going on, because I finally got them to listen to it properly and they agreed it sounds like budding rod knock. So, new transmission at 56k, and engine being pulled out at 59k. Should I expect that from a "cheap" Versa?

Weird whining from front end -- CVT transmission dying - This is under warranty isnt it? Dont count on it failing again from the same abuse...

Abuse? I'm not a "fast and furious" type and a very careful and gentle driver. This car has seen 90% highway miles and zero racing or other such crap.

This is just frustrating to hear from a technicians point of view. You bought the first model year of a new car and expect it to be trouble free... And holy crap are you not happy that it takes a week to ship a 250 lb trans and install it? Its a free trans thats going to be fresh well outside its warranty, and there's a technician with bills to pay thats installing it in 6 hours and being paid 3.5!

How the hell is it "free"? I had to drive an hour to the dealer, arrange for a ride back, have no car for a week, get a ride to the dealer, and drive back, not to mention the time waiting around. Maybe your time is free, but mine sure as hell is NOT. If Nissan underpays their techs as you imply that's a sad thing, but has nothing to do with me or my vehicle. Also, "fresh well outside its warranty" I take with a grain of salt since the first one crapped out at 56,000 miles.

Have more faith in nissan, you guys nit pick tons of things on low end nissans and completely discredit the company as a whole.

How the f**k is a dead transmission "nit picking"?

I dont want to stirr up any crap, but please keep in contact with your dealer and you'll be surprised what they can take care of for you.... This is why the warranty is in place. I have been a technician for some time now and I have the utmost faith in this manufacturer.

So far my experiences with three different dealers have been nothing but miserable.

Maybe you think it's ok to spend hours upon hours waiting around in dealerships, but my time is worth something to me, and even if things eventually get addressed (and some have not) it's a friggin' waste of it, and all because Nissan couldn't put the thing together properly in the first place.

Sorry, you are working for a company that puts out a flawed product, whether it be due to design issues or manufacturing quality control issues.

(By the way, a few months after I bought the Versa a friend of mine called me to complain about his two year old Titan literally falling to pieces on him. Told him the Versa seemed like a pretty decent vehicle, ah, how little I knew....)

[pingflood]

You also have to remember, your's is an '07. Its the beginning of the car, they can't perfect the car from the very first year. So your bound to have problems. Our '08 isn't bad, all its had so far was a "common" steering wheel rack problem.

What was the steering rack problem? Mine has had a weird "knocking" feeling in the steering wheel at times.

And comparing to Toyota.. Have you missed they're recalls lately? I do believe Nissan is better than Toyota. And If Honda's so great, well my '98 CRV won't have a dying transmission right now at 166k.

Yeah, the Toyota recalls were a surprise, I'll admit that. Still would buy one though; compared to the rest they still do quite well.

And your transmission lasted 110k longer than mine....

[pingflood]

Quick update... dealer called and told me the new engine is on order and I should have the car back when I get back from my overseas trip next week.

So I'll add that to the list of "nitpicks".

[Rand0m0sityxX]

What was the steering rack problem? Mine has had a weird "knocking" feeling in the steering wheel at times.

Yeah, the Toyota recalls were a surprise, I'll admit that. Still would buy one though; compared to the rest they still do quite well.

And your transmission lasted 110k longer than mine....

umm.. Not sure, my husband drove it. lol It made a popping noise and he had them look at it and thats what it was.

eh. Mine should have gone farther for being a Honda lol And it costs too much to replace, the cars not worth it.

Personally, I'd buy a Nissan again. My moms '01 Sentra had no problems except a simple sealing problem for the windshield. It sadly came to its end this past May with only 80k on it, someone in a larger suv totaled it out. If that hadn't have happened, I know it would have gone a lot farther. Nissans are pretty good cars.

And after trying to get a Yaris, I wouldn't get a Toyota, they are greedy and they charge way to much. They wanted me to pay $17k for a Yaris with auto and manual windows and locks. I could get a SL versa loaded with fogs, upgraded deck, power, cruise for the same price. -.-

[KimberKenobi]

This was the only relevant CVT failure thread I found relevant and unlocked (you know who you are)...

The Camel's CVT acted up last week... dealer here said they found metal shavings in the fluid and that my CVT was coming apart. They said it would be okay to drive to my home dealership... over 100 miles away...

It had been to it's dealership before due to some CVT problems... nothing came of it and it drove fine when I got it home... seemed to be problems from not having a good highway stretch...

Last week I was getting onto the highway when suddenly the Camel felt like he was going to stall... momentum and tack remained steady while the spedo needle dropped to 0... the Camel drove as though it was shifted down into "L" instead of "D"

This does not seem to fall into the "fail-safe mode" parameters so I'm not sure what happened. Didn't do it to me on a 'round the block' spin prior to having it towed to the local dealership and didn't act up on the way to it's dealership.

The dealership did find that some power wire whatnot (very technical, I know) had come loose/corroded and this was cleaned and re-installed properly and tightly. My service guy was basically like 'you've still got a lot of warranty on it' seeming to imply that it had a lot of time to still reproduce the problem or possibly explode while they still have to replace it. However, if my failing transmission messes up my wee engine, I'm up that there 54!7 cr!k without an obligatory paddle.

56k miles, mostly highway, no abuse. Go figure! (2007 Versa SL)

Well, mine went further with slight abuse... go figure. almost 75k on the odo, more than that on the car (discrepency caused by increased wheel size... I go an extra 30 miles for every 300 that show up on the odo... I think that's roughly what it works out to... I might be wrong.)

oh, and just for good measure...

[Knightro2]

Starting problems -- fuel pressure regulator - Thats a TSB, they fixed it for you for free didnt they?

Unless he was already out of warranty. I had my FPR go out at 47k. I was out of my warranty and had to pay around $150 - $200 to get it fixed.

[iluvmyVersa08]

Starting problems -- fuel pressure regulator - Thats a TSB, they fixed it for you for free didnt they?

Unless he was already out of warranty. I had my FPR go out at 47k. I was out of my warranty and had to pay around $150 - $200 to get it fixed.

That sucks to hear you didn't have the warranty cover it ...

I asked them to replace mine in September when they fixed my sunroof. I still have another 5 years of coverage though, but noticed it acting up when trying to start it ... figured they might as well fix it since she was already there for something else.

[mroxbury]

Read this and ENJOY!!!.........

1. No transmission should be dying at 56,000 km, no matter where the car is assembled.

2. I have had many North American cars..... their transmissions never went.
My 1987 Reliant's transmission is still going.

3. I have a brand new 2010 Nissan Versa 1.8L SL with CVT for which I paid $23,000 Canadian this past July 2010. I also took the extended warranty package, - so that costs me even more. I don't know what Versa you can buy for under $10,000. Certainly not a new Versa, in Canada.

3. The car started making strange noises at approximately 3100 km. I hear a strange WHINING NOISE coming from the front end of the car, especially when decelerating. Several technicians from my Nissan dealership have looked at the car, and they say that it is the CVT that whines, and they add that this is normal for the CVT.

4. Shortly after take off, right after the automatic doors lock, a "clunk clunk clunk clunk noise with vibration" occurs under the car towards the rear. My passengers have noticed it, and they ask me what is that? What can I say.... my Nissan dealership service guys say that they do not hear it ?????????? It is most noticeable on cold start up in the morning, and it feels like you are going to lose your transmission or your engine.

5. Mileage is the pits, about half od what it says in the brochure.

6. I have had the distinct smell of antifreeze coming into the passenger compartment from time to time. I am now monitoring the antifreeze level.

7. Needless to say, listining for noises, fearing that your transmission or engine are about to go, and monitoring for antifreeze odours in the passenger compartment are not making for a pleasant driving experience.

8. Would appreciate any input here.....I am very disappointed in Nissan... and I cannot reccomend a Nissan to anyone in all good conscience.

Check Edmunds.com forum on Nissan, and you will find the same CVT problems with the Altima, - even worse.

I am hoping that someone amongst you will have an easy solution to these problems, because my Nissan dealership where I bought the car is not helping.

I will be filing a complaint to NIssan Corporate Head Office

Thanks,
Monti

You bought the BOTTOM of the line nissan, dont expect perfection! You can get these cars for under $10,000! Dont you think it would be somewhat inexpensively produced??

I
was looking for basic, reliable, troublefree transportation. I did not buy this car (which was closer to 15k than 10k) because I wanted to save a few grand and deal with a host of stupid issues.

Starting problems -- fuel pressure regulator - Thats a TSB, they fixed it for you for free didnt they?

After the THIRD time I brought it in.

»Mystery interior rattles -- given up on getting them fixed - Do you know how hard it is as a technician making any money on interior rattles? You should spend some time as a flat rate technician and then ease up on your expectations from a middle of the line auto maker and a bottom of their lineup vehicle.

I really don't give a rat's behind how much money a tech makes fixing issues on my vehicle; I expect a still rather new car NOT to have these issues. My wife's '02 Jetta is far more solid, as is my 17 year old Roadmaster. I've driven cheap Hondas FAR older and they have nowhere NEAR the amount of interior noises. It's unacceptable, "cheap" car or not.

Recent engine noises -- went from oil level full to almost no oil in a few thousand miles. You have a powertrain warranty dont you? The earliest of models always have problems like this, this is why there's warranties, and superceded parts that commonly fail.

I just dropped the car off today AGAIN because of this. Last time they said it was "really low on oil" and that I had probably "neglected" to maintain it properly. They they told me I "had" to change it every 3750 miles even though the Nissan service manual says otherwise and I pointed out I do all highway driving. They "fixed" it by adding oil, to no avail. Took it back in, they told me they wouldn't even look at it without me proving that I had maintained it properly. Spent an hour on the phone having people fax records over, and showed them that over the past year I've done changes WELL within the 7500 mile recommended interval for my type of driving.

Now they are yanking the engine to find out what the hell is going on, because I finally got them to listen to it properly and they agreed it sounds like budding rod knock. So, new transmission at 56k, and engine being pulled out at 59k. Should I expect that from a "cheap" Versa?

Weird whining from front end -- CVT transmission dying - This is under warranty isnt it? Dont count on it failing again from the same abuse...

Abuse? I'm not a "fast and furious" type and a very careful and gentle driver. This car has seen 90% highway miles and zero racing or other such crap.

This is just frustrating to hear from a technicians point of view. You bought the first model year of a new car and expect it to be trouble free... And holy crap are you not happy that it takes a week to ship a 250 lb trans and install it? Its a free trans thats going to be fresh well outside its warranty, and there's a technician with bills to pay thats installing it in 6 hours and being paid 3.5!

How the hell is it "free"? I had to drive an hour to the dealer, arrange for a ride back, have no car for a week, get a ride to the dealer, and drive back, not to mention the time waiting around. Maybe your time is free, but mine sure as hell is NOT. If Nissan underpays their techs as you imply that's a sad thing, but has nothing to do with me or my vehicle. Also, "fresh well outside its warranty" I take with a grain of salt since the first one crapped out at 56,000 miles.

Have more faith in nissan, you guys nit pick tons of things on low end nissans and completely discredit the company as a whole.

How the f**k is a dead transmission "nit picking"?

I dont want to stirr up any crap, but please keep in contact with your dealer and you'll be surprised what they can take care of for you.... This is why the warranty is in place. I have been a technician for some time now and I have the utmost faith in this manufacturer.

So far my experiences with three different dealers have been nothing but miserable.

Maybe you think it's ok to spend hours upon hours waiting around in dealerships, but my time is worth something to me, and even if things eventually get addressed (and some have not) it's a friggin' waste of it, and all because Nissan couldn't put the thing together properly in the first place.

Sorry, you are working for a company that puts out a flawed product, whether it be due to design issues or manufacturing quality control issues.

(By the way, a few months after I bought the Versa a friend of mine called me to complain about his two year old Titan literally falling to pieces on him. Told him the Versa seemed like a pretty decent vehicle, ah, how little I knew....)

[Bubs daddy]

I haven't had anything go wrong with the CVT after 4 years. Engine runs great, great car.

I'll recommend Nissan to many people as I've had a great experience.

As far as Edmunds forums, I don't believe anything on there. Anyone can post and make up stories. I could tell you I own 5 Corvettes and a beach house in Nantucket. There's no verification for anything that's written. Why would you be "in fear" about your transmission or engine? It's warrantied. For ten years or 100,000 miles. Take it back to the dealer.


Sorry, you have three posts and lay all this down the first time you get here. In fact, there's been a few new posters all of a sudden here lately with all these reported problems. Uh huh...

[Silver Eagle]

I recently had a P12 Primera with the QG18DE engine, drive chain went at 20k, not a good engine, as far as I can find out and my own experience with the HR16 DE it is much more reliable, at present I am at 26k and it is still running well but time will tell.

[kc5f]

Would appreciate any input here.....I am very disappointed in Nissan... and I cannot reccomend a Nissan to anyone in all good conscience.

My first Versa was my first foreign car in 34 years, and my first Nissan. We now have three Versa's, all with CVT. One has about 110k miles, another about 67k and the third 47k. All three CVT's have been flawless and quiet. No coolant or other unusual smells in the passenger area. All three get mileage well within the EPA ratings. It does sound like you have real problems with yours, as some folks always do with whatever make and model you might select. But I certainly won't hesitate to recommend Nissan, and I now expect to drive CVT's as long as I own cars, unless they come up with something even better!

[kvg]

The QG18 is not a very good engine, we've had countless headgaskets and timing chain issues..

umm we have the MR18 not the QG18....

I recently had a P12 Primera with the QG18DE engine

O.K. lets do a recap again,

the Nissan Versa 1.8 = MR18DE not QG18DE

[mroxbury]

Hello and thank you for your input. I am glad that many of you are having a good experience with your Nissan Versa(s).

I have a 1994 Infiniti J30 whose engine and transmission are silent. There are no vibrations, whining noises, or clunking noises coming from under the car.

So I was impresses with Infiniti, and I was sure that the Versa would be a good choice. We had rented Versa on many occasions and we liked it.

I bought the upper end model, and I expected we would have a happy experience with our Versa.

For the first 3100 km everything was perfect. Suddenly in early September, at 3289 km, strange noises began, and it is very frustrating TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED A lemon. IT'S BRAND NEW!!! It shouldn't be making any noises.

The dealership told me that Nissan assembly plants aim for 100 % quality,but they gave about 7% defective vehicles.

After I learned this I purchased the extended warranty.

But why should consumers be debugging Nissan's problems???? Can't Nissan - Renault handle their own lemon problems????
:

[kvg]

^^

All car manufacturers make it very hard to get a "lemon" replaced. I have never had lemon and would be pissed too. If I were you I would try another dealer. My mother had a Volvo that had problem after problem, then started having it serviced at another and had no problems after that. I also have friends with VW's and same thing when Serviced at another dealer was changed. Just my 2cents.

[mroxbury]

Thanks for your input kvq. I know that all auto maufacturers' produce some LEMONS. It's just frustrating to know that you received a LEMON.

I almost bought a VW instead of the Versa, but based on my experience with my first vehiclein the late 1970's when I had a VW, I decided against VW.

I also stay away from Audi, VW, and Volvo based on experiences people I know have had with them.

What's left????

[mroxbury]

A quick reminder here, ....... When I first test drove the Nissan Versa, there was no "whining noise on deceleration" coming from the CVT, and there were no "thumping noises coming from the "ABS adjustment" on starting out".

Similarly, for the 1st 3000 km on my brand new Versa 1.8 L SL , these two noises were not there.....

Had they been, I would have left Nissan, and gone to research other vehicles.

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Your completely right, cars are all terrible. You need to teach the automotive industry a lesson! Get a 10 speed and hope the chain never breaks.