50mm Origin Rear Fenders Wheel Question

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I have an origin 50mm over fenders. I'm lookin at getting some new wheels, but i'm not sure how thick that I"m going to need the back wheels. I wouldn't mind if they were flush or they had a little little positive offset. I just don't want them too wide for the back or to small. My choices are going from 18x7.5 , 8.5, or 9.5 for the back. What do you recommend, especially what you guys know from having the wider rear fender overlays... Thanks!!!

This is the kind of wheel offset i like for the back. So if these were 50mm fenders, what would you say he's using for the back tire? here is the website with the pic. http://enjukuracing.com/produc...2}636
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if youre going to stick with the single digit widths, you might need some negative offeset wheels

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i would look in to a little wider wheels for the back and a nice offset you cant run 50mm over fenders with crappy looking wheels you need something with a nice offset to pull it off that my .2

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nismo240now wrote: My choices are going from 18x7.5 , 8.5, or 9.5 for the back.
get 9.5's +0's and 255/35's or 275's or something meatier (non stretch)

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yeah it definitely sounds like you dove right into this overfenders/wheels situation.

you should just about ALWAYS get the wheels first, then do the body stuff to accomodate it. not the other way around.

chances are, youre gonna get some weak sauce wheel setup and make your entire car look crappy.

get on google and find an offset calculator, do some number crunching and figure out what sizes youd be able to use in order to make it look decent.

however, its almost a promise that a set of wheels and tires to fill those 50mm overs will cost a couple years-worth of your saved allowance.

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tramp_drift240 wrote:yeah it definitely sounds like you dove right into this overfenders/wheels situation.

you should just about ALWAYS get the wheels first, then do the body stuff to accomodate it. not the other way around.
Quote »get on google and find an offset calculator, do some number crunching and figure out what sizes youd be able to use in order to make it look decent.[/quote]or you can check this thread and use it's info on what to get...

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HAY ADRIAN.

why arent you on aim, i have questions to ask you.

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Ya bro, 50mm ARE HUGE!

I hope you haven't bought them yet, and if you had, sell and def get some 20mm....

You need atleast a 6inch offset to fill that or.. 2/3 inch and huge spacers + lug extenstions

GL!

If u get some huge offsets, im sure it'll like badass!

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tramp_drift240 wrote:HAY ADRIAN.

why arent you on aim, i have questions to ask you.
I'm on my sister's computer... lol =/

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well ive got kind of a...semi-complex question that you and your infinite knowledge may be able to answer.

for my kais, and a stock body, im pretty sure 225/40/18s are "best" for fitment.

but im wondering the MAX tread i could have on the rear, fitting the 18x9.5", and a recommended overfender size to accommodate.

i put a 295/35 on it a few days ago, and it looked sick as hell. it made me start thinking about tatakidasi rear overs and some thicker fronts for some wide fenders.

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^ feel free to start up a thread in the wheels/suspension forum. We need more traffic in that area anyways.

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I have the 50mm rear fenders with the staggard fn01rc's 17X8.5 in front. And 18X9.5 in rear with 245/40's in the rear. I am not sure of the offsets. I think it looks great. Its just a drift car though so it gets beat up.

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fukin240 wrote:Ya bro, 50mm ARE HUGE!

I hope you haven't bought them yet, and if you had, sell and def get some 20mm....

You need atleast a 6inch offset to fill that or.. 2/3 inch and huge spacers + lug extenstions

GL!

If u get some huge offsets, im sure it'll like badass!
Truely a fail...dont need spacers or lenthened studs. And the 50 mm looks hot when done right. Truelly spoken from someone lookin for posts.

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blacksrjdm wrote:
Truely a fail...dont need spacers or lenthened studs. And the 50 mm looks hot when done right. Truelly spoken from someone lookin for posts.
50mm overs look right when the wheels are fitted correctly, but unless he gets a sweet offset setup, he'll probably have to use some big spacers.

though those do come with their own set of studs since theyre bolt on spacers instead of slip ons.

you cant make a 50mm overfender look good with some wack offset wheel.

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All I'm saying is is that I bought the standard offset staggard fn01rc's and didnt even wonder about the offset, mostly because I wouldnt know how to tell the offset if you slapped me in the face with the wheel. But I had spacers in the front and rear and I didnt like the way it looked, took the spacers out and it looks great with the 50 mm fenders and the fn01rc's staggard.

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i'd look for some wheels that are AT LEAST 9 inches wide, preferably wider and with offsets lower than +15.

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fukin240 wrote:I hope you haven't bought them yet, and if you had, sell and def get some 20mm....

You need atleast a 6inch offset to fill that or.. 2/3 inch and huge spacers + lug extenstions
wow... your info is waaay off.

6" offset? what?

2/3" and huge spacers plus lug extentions? huh?

please don't give anymore suggestions on what to get. kthanksbye

I'd rather hear suggestions from the cashier at my local Autozone

wow

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staggered*

i demand a picture of your car, then.

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oooooooooo yea...staggered...

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sounds like I have the same wheels but I couldnt imagine them in 50mm's the fit nicely under my fenders....maybe different offset

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I couldnt lower my car as low as I wanted it without some sort of overfender...so, I dunno. I have been told that I am doing everything wrong on this car by tramp-drift so...I guess the 9 years I have been building cars is all for nothing. I will continue to build cars and continue to ignore peoples opinions.

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I am getting new rims, and will definately be looking at my options. I think that if i go wider on the rear like lets say 9.5 or 10 with 10mm spacers it would look really nice. I would love to see some pics of your car or anyones who has the overfenders on so i can see how it looks... Has anyone seen anyone with the 20 or 50mm fenders with some rims that have a big 3 inch lip? I was wondering if that would look good with the big fenders..

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wow guys.

most of you guys need to familiarize yourselves with offset and what it means.


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I"ll post pics once i decide on my new rims...
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nismo240now wrote:please explain.....
well, for example you did not once mention wheel offsets
nismo240now wrote: I think that if i go wider on the rear like lets say 9.5 or 10 with 10mm spacers it would look really nice.
the wheel offset (along with wheel width and camber spec) would determine where exactly the wheel would sit vertically with the fender.

for example, a 17x9 +20 wheel would sit decently flush on a stock bodied s13. BUT a 17x9 -20 would require over fenders and stick out way past the stock fenders.

also, knowing the offset also determines how thick of a spacer you'd want to get. How do you know that 10mm of a spacer would do anything? Do you know how thick 10mm's is? its not that thick man... you can't just throw out a number and hope it'll make your wheel sit flush.

relatively, tossing on spacers also changes the offset of the wheels. Like my previous 17x9 example, a 17x9 +20 wheel added with 40mm spacers would make the wheel effectively a 17x9 -20

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here, I found a pic of some sunk *** wheels on some wide fenders. (ya, I know they're probably drift spares, but I'm using it as my example of what I mean by sunk)



and to tell you the truth, those se wheels in the back actually look like they're on spacers.

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thats what my car looks like on se rims...terrible.

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adrians_s13 wrote:here, I found a pic of some sunk *** wheels on some wide fenders. (ya, I know they're probably drift spares, but I'm using it as my example of what I mean by sunk)



and to tell you the truth, those se wheels in the back actually look like they're on spacers.
That car is totally sexy, minus the wheels that is hehe even the fronts are kinda sunken.. if the fronts weren't stretched might look a bit better but alas (i'm anti-stretch)

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this is 30mm fenders, 25mm spacer 16x8 15 offset

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i always wondered if you were running spacers, because im probably going to get some small rear overfenders to ide some quarter panel damage.


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