http://zparts.com/showcase/eng....html
^much faster than a 5.0
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http://members.iinet.net.au/~dcollins/silfiniti/
If you are going to do an engine swap,at least keep the engine in the same automotive family.
500sx?
I said 240's, not Silvias/180's.
I never said it was original, but it's a million times less common than SR/CA/RB/etc swaps into 240's.
A 302 will reach high hp nubers easier without having to rev to atleast 6-7 grand. Period. There's no replacement for displacement, although forced induction comes close.
If I had a spare V8 and a 240 to put it in for fun, I wouldn't exactly think to myself "Hey, lemme go spend thousands of more dollars on a Q45 engine so kids think it's cool and loyal." Making that engine work in that car entails some engenuity to me.
And of course those cars are faster than stock Mustangs, a modded, lighter V8 rice rocket vs. a stock heavy foxbody? C'mon.
I never said it was original, but it's a million times less common than SR/CA/RB/etc swaps into 240's.
A 302 will reach high hp nubers easier without having to rev to atleast 6-7 grand. Period. There's no replacement for displacement, although forced induction comes close.
If I had a spare V8 and a 240 to put it in for fun, I wouldn't exactly think to myself "Hey, lemme go spend thousands of more dollars on a Q45 engine so kids think it's cool and loyal." Making that engine work in that car entails some engenuity to me.
And of course those cars are faster than stock Mustangs, a modded, lighter V8 rice rocket vs. a stock heavy foxbody? C'mon.
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SeVa-S13 wrote:I said 240's, not Silvias/180's.
I never said it was original, but it's a million times less common than SR/CA/RB/etc swaps into 240's.
A 302 will reach high hp nubers easier without having to rev to atleast 6-7 grand. Period. There's no replacement for displacement, although forced induction comes close.
If I had a spare V8 and a 240 to put it in for fun, I wouldn't exactly think to myself "Hey, lemme go spend thousands of more dollars on a Q45 engine so kids think it's cool and loyal." Making that engine work in that car entails some engenuity to me.
And of course those cars are faster than stock Mustangs, a modded, lighter V8 rice rocket vs. a stock heavy foxbody? C'mon.
Well I can now see some thinking behind it,but I still don't think I'd do it,personally.
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VH41DE was swapped into the Silvia chassis, not the VH45.ChunkiDori wrote:Add this to the list of mods I've seen
180SX (CA18)190SX (1.9L CA18)200SX (SR20, F20C)220SX (2.2L SR20)240SX (duhhhh)250SX (1JZ, RB25)260SX (RB26)300SX (VG30, 2JZ)430SX (VH I think? From a Q?)500SX (302 SBF)570SX (350 SBC)
whos gonna do 800SX (Viper V10)?
If I were to do a bastard swap it would either be a GN motor, or a 130SX
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Ghettokracker71 wrote:large,heavy ,clunky and unreliable ford V8.
That 302 is lighter than any turbo RB series engine produced. Even the T5 transmission thats in it (hope you kept a T5, not an auto) is damn near the same one that Nissan used in the Z31 turbo.
Unreliable 302... hmm, you might wanna reconsider that statement. They are so simplistic in function, moreso than any of Nissan's turbo engines.
Any engine is as reliable as the owner, if you ask stupid things from the motor then it will do stupid things, if you treat it well and do things properly it will treat you well.
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I like that. There was a couple people around town here that were going to do the same swap, but I think that they got too busy and havent had time to work on it. I like mustangs and 240s, so its a sweet mix of the best part of the 2. 240 suspension and chassis and the mustang engine. What a dream car 
I understand how "GhettoKracker" would hate the car. I take no offence. Im open to race him in the 240 or my dsm.
He cant talk the the etrash he wants. Its the internet, he's a kid and he has alot to learn.
The car is an amazing handler for stock suspension. The engine sits so far back that its more of a mid-engine car then a front. We should have the car in a auto cross here within a month or so. Maybe bring it out to PA for a day of drifting. I think its Beaver Creek or something like that.
We did use a brand new T5 trans. When my buddy got the car it had a broken timing chain. He had 5.0s sittting on engine stands and alot of time and creativity. Thanks for the props, I'm hoping to have some nice video soon here.
He cant talk the the etrash he wants. Its the internet, he's a kid and he has alot to learn.
The car is an amazing handler for stock suspension. The engine sits so far back that its more of a mid-engine car then a front. We should have the car in a auto cross here within a month or so. Maybe bring it out to PA for a day of drifting. I think its Beaver Creek or something like that.
We did use a brand new T5 trans. When my buddy got the car it had a broken timing chain. He had 5.0s sittting on engine stands and alot of time and creativity. Thanks for the props, I'm hoping to have some nice video soon here.
Ghettokracker71 wrote:
I never said the guy didn't have good automotive skill. I don't think its particularly ingenuis though. Its a simple redneck idea: get a big-*** engine,and you can go fast. Example:Muscle cars.
What’s Redneck about this? Don't give me that "mullet" bull**** either man. I've been loving "imports" and my Dsm for years years and years. Would you rather see me post a cut spring, CIA, greedy exhaust 15-16 second 240sx?
Is that what you want? lol
I'll put the old 240 engine and auto trans in my hatch and go click off a 14.lol
I like 4 bangers. I love my eclipse, I hate most domestics. I give them respect but I just can't shake my turbo 4 cyl craze. But when I get pulled and get impressed, I have to tip my hat. Try not to be so aggressively hateful.
This pic is before the interior was done. It was all hacked together for the time being. I'll throw some updated pics up monday.
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Chingon wrote:If everyone thought like that we would not have the shelby cobra or the lotus elise....
(1) Caroll Shelby made a deal with Ford Motor Company from day 1 before the first Shelby Cobra was ever prototyped that he would use nothing but Ford engines,therefore not a bastard car.
(2) Lotus made a deal with Toyota after they drew up the design for the Elise b/c they thought toyota had the best MR motorset. Also therefore not a bastard car.
Those cars came bone-stock with Ford and Toyota engines,respectfully. Therefore not classified as a 'bastard car' seeing as they are running their STOCK ENGINE.
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aw4g63 wrote:I understand how "GhettoKracker" would hate the car. I take no offence. Im open to race him in the 240 or my dsm.
He cant talk the the etrash he wants. Its the internet, he's a kid and he has alot to learn.
The car is an amazing handler for stock suspension. The engine sits so far back that its more of a mid-engine car then a front. We should have the car in a auto cross here within a month or so. Maybe bring it out to PA for a day of drifting. I think its Beaver Creek or something like that.
We did use a brand new T5 trans. When my buddy got the car it had a broken timing chain. He had 5.0s sittting on engine stands and alot of time and creativity. Thanks for the props, I'm hoping to have some nice video soon here.
People(with brains,I'm not talking about Hondaboys though) don't buy naturally aspirated 4 cylinder imported cars from 1991 if they wanted to run on a drag strip; Use your head. I had a chevelle,and a thunderbird, if I gave 2 ****s about drag racing I would have never sold them.
Ghettokracker71 wrote:People(with brains,I'm not talking about Hondaboys though) don't buy naturally aspirated 4 cylinder imported cars from 1991 if they wanted to run on a drag strip; Use your head. I had a chevelle,and a thunderbird, if I gave 2 ****s about drag racing I would have never sold them.
My cars handle turns better then straight lines.
I'm more of an autocross kinda guy then a stand inline at the strip kinda guy.
I was basicly trying to say "what the hell have you done?"
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aw4g63 wrote:My cars handle turns better then straight lines.
I'm more of an autocross kinda guy then a stand inline at the strip kinda guy.
I was basicly trying to say "what the hell have you done?"
I dunno if a V8 was a good idea in that case, but you definately chose one of the lighter V8s.
Kudo's for doin what you wanted, I personally wouldn't have done it, hope you have fun in it!
Ghettokracker71 wrote:http://zparts.com/showcase/eng....html
^much faster than a 5.0
AND
http://members.iinet.net.au/~dcollins/silfiniti/
If you are going to do an engine swap,at least keep the engine in the same automotive family.
Why? We've already pushed 10s with this same block. Why would we invest money and time into something else? Explain.
Ghettokracker71 wrote:(1) Caroll Shelby made a deal with Ford Motor Company from day 1 before the first Shelby Cobra was ever prototyped that he would use nothing but Ford engines,therefore not a bastard car.
(2) Lotus made a deal with Toyota after they drew up the design for the Elise b/c they thought toyota had the best MR motorset. Also therefore not a bastard car.
Those cars came bone-stock with Ford and Toyota engines,respectfully. Therefore not classified as a 'bastard car' seeing as they are running their STOCK ENGINE.
No, shelby America uses the AC (a british manufacturer) chassis for it's prototypes, the 260 and later the 427. The fact that ford was the engine manufacturer had nothing to do at the beginning w/the decision the engines were used. You can read all about it from the horse's mouth here: http://www.carrollshelby.com/timeline.htm < notice how there's no mention of any "ford's deal", wouldn't you think that shelby himself would've made note of something so important?
and the elise part was merely a response to your "Your RB engine is at least a NISSAN engine in a NISSAN chassis." comment. Lotus is capable of producing engines, but they know they are capable of resortig to Honda or Toyota for the same results.
[quote=" Ghettokracker71 [B(2) Lotus made a deal with Toyota after they drew up the design for the Elise b/c they thought toyota had the best MR motorset. Also therefore not a bastard car.[/quote]
The 2ZZ-GE was never a MR motorset from Toyota. The 1ZZ-FE, however, was.
The V8 240 is not really my cup of tea, but I applaud you for the install and respect the car for what it is capable of. To each his own.
I assume you guys used the stock rear end then? No solid axle conversion?
The 2ZZ-GE was never a MR motorset from Toyota. The 1ZZ-FE, however, was.
The V8 240 is not really my cup of tea, but I applaud you for the install and respect the car for what it is capable of. To each his own.
I assume you guys used the stock rear end then? No solid axle conversion?
I would only put in an all alumanum V8 with 32 valves and DOHC, a Q45 V8 or a Northstar V8 would be great IMO. But an RB series engine is really where its at, silky smooth I6 and WHOOSH! Why go V8 when you can have a turbo. I give you props, the 240sx is almost a kit car these days so put whatever you want in it.
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