4TH gen motor mounts..squeaking??

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you shouldnt use a stud off the one you have now b/c it wont seat right in the original hub.

have you tried soaking the broken stud from the original spindle with WD40 or PB Blaster for about 15 minutes before you take a hammer to it?! that should help!!



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what about some heat from a torch? just to get the spindle to hopefully expand a bit and loosen? would that work too or just warp things?

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Becasue i already WD 40/ liquid wrench/ release all'ed the hell out of that thing..ha ha. just everything on my garage shelf!

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what kind of torch?...a small propane torch or a acetylene torch? I wouldn't use anything hotter than a small propane or butane torch, personally. Try to heat the stud, and NOT the hub.

good luck man!

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okay well I got that studd out! Now whats my next step here? Other than replacing the studd obviously.. And where is the wheel bearing located?

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ok, so you got your stud out!! go to your local shop to purchase a new matching stud(not longer, and not shorter). take a lug nut to make sure if you want to double check the new stud b4 you purchase.

your wheel bearing is pressed inside of the spindle. i believe yours looks a little different b/c your a 4th gen, but the same concept still.

here is a view of my NEW bearing that was pressed into place:

here is a pic of the new hub also pressed in:

watch this youtube.com link for directions on how to install your new stud(if you have a impact air gun).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJJ50yI9VLQ

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ok so I'm noticing that the spindle your showing in the picture is mounted on the steering knuckle...when i replaced the spindle all i did was the spindle.. is it not supposed to be removed from that knuckle?

and how do you post pictrues into your post? i can seem to make it work

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i don't understand your question Devon...the spindle isn't mounted to anything in the picture. There is no tie rod end, lower control arm, caliper, or strut mounted to the spindle.

explain what you mean!

to post pix you need to start an account at...

http://www.photobucket.com

...it's free!!

to post them here on NICO you need to click the IMG(image) link, and paste the link in your post.

you can also put a pic in your signature(found in your user profile) to create a custom 'sig' for yourself.
Modified by lightsout at 3:43 PM 5/26/2008

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Well it must be my computer becasue nothing happens when i click the picture link for my post. This is a link to two of the pictures i took before taking the studd out. Look at it and you will see what i mean. Sorry i cant explain it more, just most of the work i have done has been related to the engine directly so most of these parts are new terminology for me! ha ha

http://s292.photobucket.com/al...3.jpg

http://s292.photobucket.com/al...8.jpg

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they didnt work before but the picture still showed up on this thread..But what im taking away from this is that i shouldnt have removed the spindle from the steering knuckle or whatever it is and that now i just simply need to take the old one in and get the bearing and spindle pressed in to the knuckle. Right?

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i saw the pic of your bearing...IT'S SHOT...do not reuse it, you need a new one from here:

http://www.autopartswarehouse.....html

you also need a new hub from this same website or any local shop/nissan dealer.

after seeing your hub, i'm sorry to say that all that effort in taking out your stud didn't do you any good b/c the hub is BAD also, so don't reuse it.

what you need is to take your ORIGINAL spindle to a mechanic and have them press in your new bearing and hub into your ORIGINAL spindle...they will charge 1hr of labor, maybe less.

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by the way....did you ever check ALL of your engine and transmission mounts?????

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I know what the Cv Axle is.. i was talking the part that the strut/caliper mounts to. But thats okay. I will order those parts and replace them when they get here. After i have all that apart should i go in to get an alignment done just becasue i had so many parts off on the front end?

And i did quickly look at most of the motor mounts and to me anyway it looks like the driver side at least is shot. There was the two plates with the motor mount bolted through in the middle and on each side there were just some rubber washer type things moving around freely. Im not exactly sure what to be looking for but im guessing thats not the way its supposed to look...

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...20133&

this is what the motor mount looks like. metal housing, rubber or polyurethane bushing for movement/cushioning and a metal bushing in the middle where the bolt goes through.

they will look a little diferent on diferent sides of the motor so be specific when you buy.

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Alright I will look at the mounts again..

But there is a place where i live that has ridiculous prices on brand new parts for cars. So I just went and picked up the new bearing and hub. But looking at the bearing I dont see what seals it. It is completly open to dirt and junk from the road getting in there. So is there seals for the front and backside of the bearing im suppsed to buy as well?

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if it didn't come sealed, i wouldn't use it yet. call the company you bought if from and ask them if you need to buy the bearing seal separately.


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there is a seperate seal for it. Its just so wierd. I have never seen a bearing that wasnt already sealed! Do you remember if yours was the same way?

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So!!! today I had the bearing pressed into the hub, as well as both the new bearing seals. And if you remember me saying before that the wheel would rock back and forth when the wheel is in the air? well I havent put it all back together yet but the hub rocks on the spindle still, just like before. Im almost ready to give up..

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Ok guys. I got everything done and the wheel doesnt rock anymore and thats all good becasue the bearing needed to be replaced anyway. But... it is still making that ticking noise when its in gear. If I were to roll down a hill in neutral it wouldnt make the nosie and as soon as i step on the clutch it stops as well. The clicking speeds up through each gear then slows down when i shift into the next gear. so its not CV because thats always speeding up. As much as it sucks Im thinking its in the transmission... what in a five speed manual could be making this noise?

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sorry i've been MIA...life's duties

i'm glad that you got the hub fixed b/c it was BAD

i agree...it sounds like it would be the transmission , but that is not my territory, i haven't much knowledge about transmission's up in my dome

when was the last time the clutch was replaced, and how many miles on your car??

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Well the clutch was done about 20 000 Miles ago and the car has 132 000 miles on it. So its neither high mileage or an old clutch... How easy is it to mess up the syncros? somethimes when its stopped it wont go into first. I have to put it in second gear, roll honestly a hair and it goes into first just fine. Also it wont hit first untill its completly stopped..

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transmissions

i'm of no help here

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Not a problem! Thanks for all the help with this other stuff though Devin and Allensteiner! Im glad i got one thing sorted out! ha ha

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glad to be of assistance!


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